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emptyhead
Feb 20th, 2004, 06:41 PM
What does this term mean, ‘Real Tennis Fan’? You often here it, Oh he/she’s a real tennis fan having her/him as his/hers favorite.

I only watch the matches for the bevy of beauties that play the game (even badly)

When did it all become so tired and tedious, all about forehands/backhands/volleys/slam titles/points/ Tier 1,2,3’s/ Rankings/ court surfaces/ Red satin trousers?

Martian Willow
Feb 20th, 2004, 07:25 PM
...surely a Real Tennis Fan is a Fan of Real Tennis, like what Henry XIII used to play when he wasn't beheading his wives...? :)

skanky~skanketta
Feb 20th, 2004, 07:35 PM
a real tennis fan is one that loves the sport simply for the sport. not the players.

Jakeev
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:01 PM
a real tennis fan is one that loves the sport simply for the sport. not the players.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which is why it just gets me that some people will only follow one or two tennis players and say heck with the rest.

For instance, tomorrow, Russia's Maria Kirilenko will face Nicole Pratt of Australia, each for I believe their first WTA title. Now, I would not exactly call either my fave, but I would totally love to be in India to watch those two go at it, or least be able to watch it on tv.

I will watch anybody because I love tennis and can say its the only sport I am diehard about.

But tennis is not different then any sport I guess. In baseball, basketball and hockey I tend to only root for the Socalif teams and when they are out of the playoffs lose interest.

So I don't call myself a diehard fan of those sports.

Either way in, if it were not for those other tennis players our "faves" would be nothing......

faboozadoo15
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:21 PM
i agree with jakeev. i now know that im a real tennis fan now that monica has been out so long and ive still really enjoyed watching whoever it is playing.

MH-forever
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:27 PM
What does this term mean, ‘Real Tennis Fan’? You often here it, Oh he/she’s a real tennis fan having her/him as his/hers favorite.

I only watch the matches for the bevy of beauties that play the game (even badly)

When did it all become so tired and tedious, all about forehands/backhands/volleys/slam titles/points/ Tier 1,2,3’s/ Rankings/ court surfaces/ Red satin trousers?
yes, why all about the points and titles, why dont they just play exhibition matches and travel around the world, tennis is all about competition, and what makes competition fun? points, titles, tier fields, rankings, surfaces, techniques, that's why i dont like those sissy exhibies, anyways, who ever gets the #1 ranking is the best in the world, and that's what the competition is about.

tenn_ace
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:31 PM
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which is why it just gets me that some people will only follow one or two tennis players and say heck with the rest.

For instance, tomorrow, Russia's Maria Kirilenko will face Nicole Pratt of Australia, each for I believe their first WTA title. Now, I would not exactly call either my fave, but I would totally love to be in India to watch those two go at it, or least be able to watch it on tv.

I will watch anybody because I love tennis and can say its the only sport I am diehard about.

But tennis is not different then any sport I guess. In baseball, basketball and hockey I tend to only root for the Socalif teams and when they are out of the playoffs lose interest.

So I don't call myself a diehard fan of those sports.

Either way in, if it were not for those other tennis players our "faves" would be nothing......

great post!

croat123
Feb 20th, 2004, 09:37 PM
real tennis fan = sprem fan(atic) :D

Hulet
Feb 20th, 2004, 09:43 PM
real tennis fan = a person who has a lot of time and patience to fully watch a very boring match between Petra Mandula and Gala Leon Garcia without slipping into a coma.

real tennis fan = not me. :)

moon
Feb 20th, 2004, 09:57 PM
the term "real tennis fan" has always had an uppity edge about it to me.
I've seen it many times on this board "they're not real tennis fans," as if that makes one a better person.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with having one or two favorites. Very often it's those one or two favorites that has bought people to the game. Who are we to look down on someone because we know or follow more players? No one here knows the reasoning about who we follow, why we follow, and when we follow.

far as I'm concerned, if you watch regularly and you know how to keep score, then you're a real fan, no matter how many people you follow.

Hulet
Feb 20th, 2004, 10:28 PM
I agree moon. The term is also used by most of the supporters of the lower-ranked players. As far as I am concerned, I don't like to see tennis or any other sport played by inferior competitors. A match of intense athletism, technique and strategy is what draws me to tennis - and to be honest, you are more likely to see such matches when the higher ranked players face each other.

Jakeev
Feb 21st, 2004, 07:27 AM
real tennis fan = a person who has a lot of time and patience to fully watch a very boring match between Petra Mandula and Gala Leon Garcia without slipping into a coma.

real tennis fan = not me. :)

Have you ever watched the two play each other? How do you know they are boring to watch? But I am sure if they were playing your fave you would not consider the match to be boring correct?

Greenout
Feb 21st, 2004, 07:40 AM
A real tennis fan or a good tennis fan? It's one and the same.

I see it as a person who's objective and loves watching the game.
They may have a couple of sweetheart favorites;but they aren't
prone to glory hunting and jumping on whoever is "hot and on a
winning" streak nor just follow WIMBLEDON. They appreciate all
types of playing styles, all types of surfaces- willing to give
things time to happen. They aren't looking to follow the latest
hip popular player. They prefer to see tennis players..."actually
playing" rather than prancing around at movie premieres or
what not.

They do not jump on "hate" bandwagons. They don't let
critics, message boards or articles sway their personal opinions
about players or matches.

They love men and women's tennis. It's all tennis to them. Some
play it beautifully others don't.

I see it also as someone who has enough confidence in their
own love of the game not to force their opinions onto others; but
rather advise them of things they may have not seen or missed
which enhances viewing the game of tennis.

Believe it or not...there are couple people here who fit the bill.
It's usually someone who's followed tennis longer than most
on this board. They actually remember 1995! or the 1980's!
And some also tend to like players that aren't too popular on
this board.

Hulet
Feb 21st, 2004, 01:48 PM
Have you ever watched the two play each other? How do you know they are boring to watch?
Actually, no, I haven't watched them play - for all I know their matches might be exciting. My point was that the term 'real tennis fan' or 'pure tennis fan' or, as someone put it here, 'good tennis fan' seem to be used for those fans who don't mind watching two plodders battle it out in an ugly match for hours.

But I am sure if they were playing your fave you would not consider the match to be boring correct?
Not correct. :) I might watch the first set, but, as it will more likely be a one sided match, I wouldn't spend my time on it.

moon
Feb 21st, 2004, 01:55 PM
I have no interest whatsoever watching Sprem vs. Farina Elia, does this mean I'm not a real tennis fan?

flyingmachine
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:04 PM
You miss quite a lot sometimes small games can be more interesting than the finals.

jenny161185
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:10 PM
some one who can watch any two players play and enjoy the game once its of good quality, even if the favourite has lost , you still watch to see the good tennis

moon
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:36 PM
but who are you to decide who is a real tennis fan and who is not? Seems a little high and mighty to me. (not that I care ;) just trying to play devil's advocate here)

stu-pot
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:23 PM
This is one of those questions that cannot be answered. I have watched tennis on and off for around 25yrs. when John Mac, Ille "Nastie", ect;came into tennis their ill discipline brought some serious humour into the game, some fans enjoyed it, some didn't I did enjoy it but, everyone had to admit, they were all brilliant players. Things began to lose some shine as equipment became so advanced that rallies disappeared from the mens game this often meant that players with an exceptional service were able to beat someone who was a better player overall. Then, I guess that is progress innit? I am now more excited by the female game with the added benifit of the beautiful players!!! :angel: :drool: I have found great pleasure over the years watching players such as, Sabatini, Sanchez-Vacario, Novotna, Graff, Martinez, Navratilova, Billie-Jean, Evert and on I could go, I am however a sworn Mary Pierce :angel: follower and if I could find the money and time I would follow her around the world. Conclusion: I am a real tennis fan, I dream of Mary but I will watch a good game always no matter who is playing, the sad thing is, that only womens tennis is now edge of the chair exciting.
:angel: Mary Pierce will be forever the Queen :angel:

emptyhead
Feb 21st, 2004, 07:14 PM
I was glancing through the replies,( I can't be bothered reading what everyone says) no idea who stated it, that Petra Mandula put them in a coma

Well I know Petra has her KNOCKERS but, come on she's not that bad

Willow, shame on you for a dreadful answer lol

stu-pot
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:33 AM
I was glancing through the replies,( I can't be bothered reading what everyone says) no idea who stated it, that Petra Mandula put them in a coma

Well I know Petra has her KNOCKERS but, come on she's not that bad

Willow, shame on you for a dreadful answer lol

I would have thought it was a little pointless asking a question if you are not bothered what people say in their answers! :confused: Do forgive me for appearing so logical though! :devil:
Bye :wavey:

Pamela Shriver
Feb 22nd, 2004, 12:47 PM
Well I know Petra has her KNOCKERS but, come on she's not that bad
We all have knockers. Two each.

Declan
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:31 PM
It's a smug and glib term but I'm sure I've used it myself over the years. Usually to distance myself from the many British people who honestly think that tennis is played for two weeks each year, at Wimbledon, who may follow it ardently for that period then promptly lose interest in the game until the next year's Championships.

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 01:58 PM
<a real tennis fan is one that loves the sport simply for the sport. not the players.>

I couldn't agree more!

One example (probably not the only) of the opposite, are many Williams fans. There are many Williams fans that only started watching tennis because of Venus and Serena. In fact, they will only watch Venus and Serena, unless Chanda Rubin or Alexandra Steveson is playing, then they might shift their focus to them. Then they tout how the ratings are down when Venus and Serena are absent from a tournament. Well, what do you expect? That just proves my point that a lot of Williams fans are not "real tennis fans." (if you go by the definition above)

Rocketta
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:10 PM
<a real tennis fan is one that loves the sport simply for the sport. not the players.>

I couldn't agree more!

One example (probably not the only) of the opposite, are many Williams fans. There are many Williams fans that only started watching tennis because of Venus and Serena. In fact, they will only watch Venus and Serena, unless Chanda Rubin or Alexandra Steveson is playing, then they might shift their focus to them. Then they tout how the ratings are down when Venus and Serena are absent from a tournament. Well, what do you expect? That just proves my point that a lot of Williams fans are not "real tennis fans." (if you go by the definition above):zzz:

How did I know some old timer would punk out and get a new username to say the same old tired stuff....:zzz:

root for a Williams = not a true tennis fan.

:haha:

SerialKiller#69
Feb 22nd, 2004, 02:33 PM
A real tennis fan appreciates other players aside from their faves. They're not exclusive supporters of a particular someone or "someones".

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:00 PM
:zzz:

root for a Williams = not a true tennis fan.

:haha:

That's not what I said.

I said that there are a lot of Williams fans who will only watch Venus and Serena play. As soon as they get knocked out of a tournament, these "real tennis fans" either stop watching the tournament, or they start routing for Chanda or Alexandra, if they are still in the tournament.

Then they tout how the ratings are down without the Williams sisters in a tournament. If the absence of Venus and Serena in a tournament brings down the ratings, what does that tell you? It tells me that there are a lot of Williams fans who don't really care about the "tennis." They only want to watch Venus and Serena. FWIW, these are usually grand slam tournaments. Why would a "real tennis fan" not watch a grand slam?

Rocketta
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:15 PM
That's not what I said.

I said that there are a lot of Williams fans who will only watch Venus and Serena play. As soon as they get knocked out of a tournament, these "real tennis fans" either stop watching the tournament, or they start routing for Chanda or Alexandra, if they are still in the tournament.

Then they tout how the ratings are down without the Williams sisters in a tournament. If the absence of Venus and Serena in a tournament brings down the ratings, what does that tell you? It tells me that there are a lot of Williams fans who don't really care about the "tennis." They only want to watch Venus and Serena. FWIW, these are usually grand slam tournaments. Why would a "real tennis fan" not watch a grand slam?like i said :zzz:

The fact that you think or only talk about Williams fans tells me a lot cause a lot of other fans have expressed and said the same things but somehow if a Williams fan says it then it becomes a big example of something..

Whateva, here is what I think of your posts on this subject

:rolleyes:

&

:retard:

&

:zzz:

SerialKiller#69
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:31 PM
That's not what I said.

I said that there are a lot of Williams fans who will only watch Venus and Serena play. As soon as they get knocked out of a tournament, these "real tennis fans" either stop watching the tournament, or they start routing for Chanda or Alexandra, if they are still in the tournament.

Then they tout how the ratings are down without the Williams sisters in a tournament. If the absence of Venus and Serena in a tournament brings down the ratings, what does that tell you? It tells me that there are a lot of Williams fans who don't really care about the "tennis." They only want to watch Venus and Serena. FWIW, these are usually grand slam tournaments. Why would a "real tennis fan" not watch a grand slam?
:worship:

Hulet
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:36 PM
LOL. I was pretty sure that sooner or later this 'real tennis fan' discussion will involve "williams fans". It's always nice to see one's suspicions confirmed. :)

To be honest, some of the 'real tennis fans', especially those who follow the junior players, give me the creeps; some of them seem to follow those underage players for some sick reason other than the tennis.

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 03:49 PM
Rocketta,

Why are you so defensive? Truth hurts?

The reason this usually comes up with Williams fans is because it's the truth. I've never seen another group of fans brag about ratings decline so much as Williams fans, when Venus and Serena are not playing in a grand slam. If you can, name one?

Name another group of fans that brag about ratings being down because of the absence of their favorites?

What does this decline in ratings tell you?

Again, what "real tennis fan" does not watch a grand slam?

If I could think of another example, I would name it. But this just isn't the case with any other player that I can think of. If you can name one, let's hear it.

Sorry to hurt your feelings, but it's the truth.

stu-pot
Feb 22nd, 2004, 04:59 PM
Brilliant :devil: :devil: Another thread where some heated emotions are in play. :fiery: I love it. :devil: :devil:
Bye :wavey:

moon
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:14 PM
Rocketta,

Why are you so defensive? Truth hurts?

The reason this usually comes up with Williams fans is because it's the truth. I've never seen another group of fans brag about ratings decline so much as Williams fans, when Venus and Serena are not playing in a grand slam. If you can, name one?

Name another group of fans that brag about ratings being down because of the absence of their favorites?

What does this decline in ratings tell you?

Again, what "real tennis fan" does not watch a grand slam?

If I could think of another example, I would name it. But this just isn't the case with any other player that I can think of. If you can name one, let's hear it.

Sorry to hurt your feelings, but it's the truth.
Ahem. I beg to differ.
Are you saying that Williams fans are the only fans who won't watch a grand slam because they're fav is not playing? How do you know this? Have you taken a poll of some sort? If you're referring to comments on this tennis board, esp. at this AO, Williams fans were not the only ones who said they would not watch.

also, the reason why I've seen some Williams fans point out the ratings, is because V and S are constantly being ragged on about how they were not good for the game. What better way to dispute this than to say that the ratings go up when they play.

You talk about the truth. But the truth is, that people can't look beyond the fact that on the board, if you root for V and S on this board, there must be something wrong with you, i.e. "not a real tennis fans." Your post just proved it.:wavey:

emptyhead
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:16 PM
I said , I cannot be bothered with what everyone says(who can)

stu-pot
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:16 PM
LOL. I was pretty sure that sooner or later this 'real tennis fan' discussion will involve "williams fans". It's always nice to see one's suspicions confirmed. :)

To be honest, some of the 'real tennis fans', especially those who follow the junior players, give me the creeps; some of them seem to follow those underage players for some sick reason other than the tennis.

I assume you mean male spectators perving on young girls in your above quote! If you have evidential proof then I stand down, however if you are just suspicious of these spectators I find your thoughts pretty sad and a tad disturbing! :(
Surely young players need the advantage of spectator participation, I would have thought it could help their progress to pro-play.
Forgive me if I am out of line though. :tape: :worship:

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:30 PM
Ahem. I beg to differ.
Are you saying that Williams fans are the only fans who won't watch a grand slam because they're fav is not playing? How do you know this? Have you taken a poll of some sort? If you're referring to comments on this tennis board, esp. at this AO, Williams fans were not the only ones who said they would not watch.

also, the reason why I've seen some Williams fans point out the ratings, is because V and S are constantly being ragged on about how they were not good for the game. What better way to dispute this than to say that the ratings go up when they play.

You talk about the truth. But the truth is, that people can't look beyond the fact that on the board, if you root for V and S on this board, there must be something wrong with you, i.e. "not a real tennis fans." Your post just proved it.:wavey:

Read my very first post, I didn't say only Williams fans do this. However, I can't think of any other fans that do it so consistently. If you can name any, go ahead.

From what I have seen, though, Williams fans are usually the ones that are only Williams fans, and won't watch anyone else. This is backed up by the ratings.

Who really cares what the reason is for Williams fans bringing up the ratings? According to most Williams fans, the ratings drop when they are not in a grand slam, and you hear a lot of Williams fans saying that they won't watch if they are not playing. What does that tell you? There are a lot of Williams fans that will only watch Venus and Serena.

Like someone said, a real tennis fan is someone that watches for the tennis, not only for the individual players.

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:38 PM
You talk about the truth. But the truth is, that people can't look beyond the fact that on the board, if you root for V and S on this board, there must be something wrong with you, i.e. "not a real tennis fans." Your post just proved it.:wavey:

Well, when a Williams fan consistently says that they're not watching unless Venus and Serena are playing, what do you expect? Likewise, when Williams fans immediately shift their focus to Chanda or Alexandra when Venus and Serena are out, what do you expect? When you brag about ratings, but those ratings only prove that you'll only watch Williams, what do you expect?

stu-pot
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:39 PM
I said , I cannot be bothered with what everyone says(who can)

On reflection you are probably right, after reading some of my own ramblings no-one could find the time and patience for them! :o I bet! :worship:

Bye. :wavey:

cheesestix
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:40 PM
Why would they watch tennis when a Williams is not playing? For small group of people, it's not Venus beats Clijsters or Serena beats Henin, it's Black beats White and Black beats White.

Sadly, that seems to be the case.

Rocketta
Feb 22nd, 2004, 06:33 PM
Like I said I knew it would be inevitable that some old-timer would punk out and post under a new name and claim


if you root for a Williams = not a true fan..

Cheese keep typing you only show your true agenda with every letter you type...:wavey:

Jakeev
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:36 PM
A real tennis fan appreciates other players aside from their faves. They're not exclusive supporters of a particular someone or "someones".
Exactly but for course people had to distort in this thread but why not they do it all of them right?

Jakeev
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:42 PM
I have no interest whatsoever watching Sprem vs. Farina Elia, does this mean I'm not a real tennis fan?
So let's just say by some bizarre cosmic intervention, the two where in the US. Open final and it was the third straight Slam they where in in which they beat all the top ten players in the process.

Is that what it would take for you?

Hulet
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:09 PM
So let's just say by some bizarre cosmic intervention, the two where in the US. Open final and it was the third straight Slam they where in in which they beat all the top ten players in the process.

Is that what it would take for you?
Answering for myself, if they accomplish that, it must mean they are really great players, although that doesn't necessarily guarantee a great match, I wouldn't miss it. :)

Hulet
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:13 PM
I assume you mean male spectators perving on young girls in your above quote! If you have evidential proof then I stand down, however if you are just suspicious of these spectators I find your thoughts pretty sad and a tad disturbing! :(
Surely young players need the advantage of spectator participation, I would have thought it could help their progress to pro-play.
Forgive me if I am out of line though. :tape: :worship:
Nobody implied that young players should play in some sort of isolation away from spectators. I only pointed to the fact that some of those 'real tennis fans', who are obsessed with those junior players, are doing so for reasons other than tennis. And, again, that creeps me out.

moon
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:19 PM
So let's just say by some bizarre cosmic intervention, the two where in the US. Open final and it was the third straight Slam they where in in which they beat all the top ten players in the process.

Is that what it would take for you?
You don't have to be so dramatic really. ;)
I'd watch them in any slam final. :D

but just because someone doesn't watch every slam final or tennis match on tv does not make them "not a real tennis fan." What if you are out constantly playing tennis, and you don't watch it on TV as much as most people. That means I'm less of a fan because you watch it more??????????

moon
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:21 PM
Sadly, that seems to be the case.
The only thing that is sad, is how hell bent you are on categorizing someone based on who they root (or don't root) for.

stu-pot
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:31 PM
Nobody implied that young players should play in some sort of isolation away from spectators. I only pointed to the fact that some of those 'real tennis fans', who are obsessed with those junior players, are doing so for reasons other than tennis. And, again, that creeps me out.

I bow to your opinion here, you could well be right and if you are it creeps me to!! :mad: Having spoken to a couple of friends of mine about this very subject, (all of us have kids by the way), they are aware of wierdos that perv on gymnastics performances, pretty sick and worrying I think. :mad: Sorry!! I quess we have to think differently in this new sicker world. :sad:
Bye, :wavey:

cheesestix
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:07 AM
You don't have to be so dramatic really. ;)
I'd watch them in any slam final. :D

but just because someone doesn't watch every slam final or tennis match on tv does not make them "not a real tennis fan." What if you are out constantly playing tennis, and you don't watch it on TV as much as most people. That means I'm less of a fan because you watch it more??????????

Not getting to see a match (e.g. "constantly playing tennis") is different than saying, "Well if Venus and Serena ain't in it, I ain't watching it."

Don't you think?

cheesestix
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:14 AM
The only thing that is sad, is how hell bent you are on categorizing someone based on who they root (or don't root) for.

I don't categorize anyone based on who they root for. Where do you get that from? Just another knee jerk reaction from a Williams fan? Some Williams fans are "real tennis fans." But there are plenty that will only watch Venus and Serena. Probably more than any other player's fans.

I see you don't deny what Hairspray Queen said about the black/white thing either?

Rocketta
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:41 AM
I see you don't deny what Hairspray Queen said about the black/white thing either?
I don't know about anyone else but I know I don't respond to trolls ....:o

Knizzle
Feb 23rd, 2004, 02:57 AM
Why would they watch tennis when a Williams is not playing? For small group of people, it's not Venus beats Clijsters or Serena beats Henin, it's Black beats White and Black beats White.

And for a large group of people Henin, Clijsters, Capriati, Davenport beats a Williams, it's White Outsmarts Black.

Jakeev
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:21 AM
You don't have to be so dramatic really. ;)
I'd watch them in any slam final. :D

but just because someone doesn't watch every slam final or tennis match on tv does not make them "not a real tennis fan." What if you are out constantly playing tennis, and you don't watch it on TV as much as most people. That means I'm less of a fan because you watch it more??????????
Well moon basically from what I have seen on this board is that people don't really support the game and I find that sad.

It's like I have said, of course we all have our faves, but if it where not for the Petra Mandulas and Karolina Sprems, our faves would be nothing.

William Hunt
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:17 AM
What does this term mean, ‘Real Tennis Fan’?
To me it is someone who has a lot of tennisknowledga, doesn't just know the topplayers. But it is also someone who visits tournaments (not just watching it on tv) and someone who respects other fans favourites and not just his / her favourites. A real fan of a player should also always stick with his favourite player, no matter if that player has a bad period. A fan who doesn't support a player anymore simply because that player is not that good anymore is not a true fan of that player.

stu-pot
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:43 PM
It's a smug and glib term but I'm sure I've used it myself over the years. Usually to distance myself from the many British people who honestly think that tennis is played for two weeks each year, at Wimbledon, who may follow it ardently for that period then promptly lose interest in the game until the next year's Championships.

You must admit access to the Championships arepoor in the UK. We get Queens, Wimbledon and the Davis Cup on TV unless we are prepared to stump up a chunk of our salary to the Murdoch clan. I am not able to afford that and therefore not to travel to Championships either. We have very poor access to playing facilities to, where I live 4 grass and 4 tarmac courts have been destroyed by yobs never to be replaced. There is even difficulty in getting Tennis based publications via newsagents, I am able to get only 2 and one of those is totally US biased in content. Then we have our press, all they wish to do is slag off the small number of players we have. It is not an easy thing to like tennis in the UK! :sad:
Bye :wavey: