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CinnamoninCinema
Feb 20th, 2004, 10:28 AM
Is she going to be the player she once was?

Davenport had knee surgery in January 2002. When she returned by July, she never did get back to where she left off at.

Seles' return after the stabbing (albeit an absence 4X as long as Serena has been gone) went ok at first ... but after her final Slam title, she was also never able to havethe same success.

Then again, Serena is younger than Davenport was when she was gone, and she hasn't been out as long as Seles was.

But does anybody see another Serena Slam?

Cro-boy
Feb 20th, 2004, 10:52 AM
I think that Serena is tired of tennis.

Paneru
Feb 20th, 2004, 10:56 AM
We've not seen Serena since July and we haven't seen her practice so we don't know how she'll play. Right now anything is possible, until we see her play again, who knows.

Cro-boy
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:16 AM
We've not seen Serena since July and we haven't seen her practice so we don't know how she'll play. Right now anything is possible, until we see her play again, who knows.

I agree with you.

tennnisfannn
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Davenport did return to the form she was in before her operation, she never made it past the the semis of a slam in 2001 and when she came back she made it to the semis of the USO. She still is capable of semis. Granted she isn't winning as many titles as she used to. As for Serena only time will tell.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:41 AM
Davenport did return to the form she was in before her operation, she never made it past the the semis of a slam in 2001 and when she came back she made it to the semis of the USO. She still is capable of semis. Granted she isn't winning as many titles as she used to. As for Serena only time will tell.

Nah, Lindsay never got back to where she was. In 2001, she was probably the 2nd best player in the world. Hasn't been anywhere near that lofty stage since.

ans
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:47 AM
IF she returns.

Paneru
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:48 AM
IF she returns.
:p

SJW
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Nah, Lindsay never got back to where she was. In 2001, she was probably the 2nd best player in the world. Hasn't been anywhere near that lofty stage since.i would put Linzi behind Jennifer and Venus in 01.

re.the question...i just want to see her back. from there, i can look forward to her kicking the tours ass a la 02 :)

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:51 AM
i would put Linzi behind Jennifer and Venus in 01.

re.the question...i just want to see her back. from there, i can look forward to her kicking the tours ass a la 02 :)

SexyjezebelWhore. We meet again.

Jen won two Slams in 2001. But Lindsay won the head to head. I'll grant that Jennifer deserved to be ranked higher than year, but was she a better player? My opinion, no.

SJW
Feb 20th, 2004, 11:53 AM
SexyjezebelWhore. We meet again.:rolleyes:

Jen won two Slams in 2001. But Lindsay won the head to head. I'll grant that Jennifer deserved to be ranked higher than year, but was she a better player? My opinion, no. Jen won 2 slams in 01, Venus won 2 slams in 01, they are the top 2 of that year

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 20th, 2004, 12:03 PM
:rolleyes:

Jen won 2 slams in 01, Venus won 2 slams in 01, they are the top 2 of that year

Ehhhh ...

Yeah, I would rank them 1, 2 for 2001. You can't argue with Jen's Slam titles.

But I'd still say she wasn't as good as Lindsay. ;)

Nevertheless, it's a moot point. You want to count Davenport as #3 when she had her surgery, ok. She hasn't been back to that level since.

dinu
Feb 20th, 2004, 12:06 PM
IF she returns.

I agree with you!

Circe
Feb 20th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Serena is too good a player to not get back to a high level of play, but how high that will be is difficult to say, because her absence has been too long for my liking.

bandabou
Feb 20th, 2004, 03:52 PM
Thing is ms Ans....when you have been at the very top, there´s only ONE way to go and that is down. Seeing how many or rather how few players have won even the career-slam, let alone four in a row, it wouldn´t be fair to compare Serena to that standard.

Serena´s gonna be back...she´s bound to realize that it is tennis she does and likes best and she will remain a major force.

Lindsay and Monica were SLOOOWWW to begin with and ANY injury would diminish their chances, but Serena even at 80 % is more athletic than most...

for-sure
Feb 20th, 2004, 04:10 PM
Where do people get these numbers?

80%

What does a Serena at 80% mean?

Andrew.
Feb 20th, 2004, 04:15 PM
I think that she will come back and at some point win another slam. But she'll never win Oz or RG again, IMO. I think she'll be top 3, but I don't think she'll make it back up to 1.

7~ŚLęV3ń˝
Feb 20th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Lol, didnt Serena say that her injury has been bothering her since... i dont know when, that she had them for ages or something, even before she won Wimbledon that year ??

DeDe4925
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Thing is ms Ans....when you have been at the very top, there´s only ONE way to go and that is down. Seeing how many or rather how few players have won even the career-slam, let alone four in a row, it wouldn´t be fair to compare Serena to that standard.

Serena´s gonna be back...she´s bound to realize that it is tennis she does and likes best and she will remain a major force.

Lindsay and Monica were SLOOOWWW to begin with and ANY injury would diminish their chances, but Serena even at 80 % is more athletic than most...
I definitely agree with you here. :rocker2:

DeDe4925
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:04 PM
Where do people get these numbers?

80%

What does a Serena at 80% mean?
It means 20% less than 100%. :cuckoo:

dreamgoddess099
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:31 PM
I think this is a question that only Serena can answer. Perhaps it's best posed to her and not the guessers on this board.

bandabou
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:32 PM
It means 20% less than 100%. :cuckoo:

:haha: :rolls: Good one...

I know for sure, that foh-sure knows what I meant. Even if Serena had lost some explosiveness: 100 %, and she now can´t do certain things as well as in the past, thus she now is like 80 % compared with her old self, she still can be a force. For sure! ;)

Leo_DFP
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:38 PM
i would put Linzi behind Jennifer and Venus in 01.

re.the question...i just want to see her back. from there, i can look forward to her kicking the tours ass a la 02 :)

Yeah, but Davenport had a winning H2H agains Capriati in 2001, despite having less success at the Slams, so ha! ;) When Lindsay was on, only the Williams sisters could beat her. Unfortunately, post-surgery, she's never been in the same form as she was during her '98-'01 prime. With Serena, it's a different case because she's younger than Davenport was when her long layoff took place, and frankly, she's better and more athletic. Maybe she won't with the "Serena Slam" again, but she should be able to return as one of, if not the supreme force in women's tennis.

Knizzle
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:39 PM
LD lost her mental toughness. I doubt Serena will lose hers.

bandabou
Feb 20th, 2004, 05:44 PM
LD lost her mental toughness. I doubt Serena will lose hers.

Plus Lindsay accepted that some people were better than her and Serena will NEVER EVER admit or accept that someone is better than her. No matter what! As long as she has that, she can go looooooooongg ways!

sartrista7
Feb 20th, 2004, 06:09 PM
LD lost her mental toughness. I doubt Serena will lose hers.

I don't see any reason to assume this. When Lindsay was in her prime, she appeared to be mentally unshakeable... and now she folds at the slightest provocation.

I can't see Serena not returning to at least the top 3. The last we saw... when she played at 100%, only two players were even capable of beating her (Justine on clay, Venus on grass). Whether she returns to this level is impossible to predict right now.

Ballbuster
Feb 20th, 2004, 07:56 PM
Serena stays hungry. She is more a true champion than Venus.

MH-forever
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:09 PM
according to WTA yes, she after all is considered to be #1 in the world, anyways, seeing how WTA was right about Steffi and Lindsay, i take they are probably right about Serena too.

LindsayRocks89
Feb 20th, 2004, 08:29 PM
serena will be back and win alot more grand slam titles. She is very strong mentally and never thinks anyone will beat her. Good luck serena! :bounce:

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 12:12 PM
Exactly...

flyingmachine
Feb 21st, 2004, 12:24 PM
Come on Serena many people want you back. but it can be the matter of "if" rather than "when" :rolleyes:

SJW
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:15 PM
I don't see any reason to assume this. When Lindsay was in her prime, she appeared to be mentally unshakeable... and now she folds at the slightest provocation.

I can't see Serena not returning to at least the top 3. The last we saw... when she played at 100%, only two players were even capable of beating her (Justine on clay, Venus on grass). Whether she returns to this level is impossible to predict right now.Serena has played Venus on grass three times...it's 2-1. she had nothing but nerves when they played in 00, played well in 02 (won in STRAIGHTS) and 03 something unexplainable was going on but she still won...when has Venus come close to beating Serena @ 100% on grass :confused:

re Justine beating her on clay, Justine IMO is like Jennifer Capriati, and always seems to bring the worst out in Serena. that's not a bad thing, in fact it's quite smart how they capitalize. when Serena plays well vs Justine, i don't think she's even got a set...but Serena 100% on clay? haven't seen it yet

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:24 PM
Serena has played Venus on grass three times...it's 2-1. she had nothing but nerves when they played in 00, played well in 02 (won in STRAIGHTS) and 03 something unexplainable was going on but she still won...when has Venus come close to beating Serena @ 100% on grass :confused:

re Justine beating her on clay, Justine IMO is like Jennifer Capriati, and always seems to bring the worst out in Serena. that's not a bad thing, in fact it's quite smart how they capitalize. when Serena plays well vs Justine, i don't think she's even got a set...but Serena 100% on clay? haven't seen it yet

Exactly....Venus never has been as dominating on grass as Serena was in ´02 and ´00....never reached that level.

And it isn´t Justine really that brings out the worst out of Serena, it´s more the clay that brings out the worst out of Serena.

SJW
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:26 PM
And it isn´t Justine really that brings out the worst out of Serena, it´s more the clay that brings out the worst out of Serena.
yea, you're right. my bad :)

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:30 PM
I think this is a question that only Serena can answer. Perhaps it's best posed to her and not the guessers on this board.

I don't think she would have much greater insight than us, actually. She knows how she feels, but I don't think she can see the future either.

This is just a question for debate. If you don't want to debate it, don't.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:31 PM
LD lost her mental toughness. I doubt Serena will lose hers.

Lindsay did, yes.

But Serena didn't look so mentally tough in 2000-2001. So that tells me that she's not an insurmountable wall of woman upstairs either. :)

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:32 PM
according to WTA yes, she after all is considered to be #1 in the world, anyways, seeing how WTA was right about Steffi and Lindsay, i take they are probably right about Serena too.

What are you talking about?

DA FOREHAND
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:33 PM
Is she going to be the player she once was?

Davenport had knee surgery in January 2002. When she returned by July, she never did get back to where she left off at.

Seles' return after the stabbing (albeit an absence 4X as long as Serena has been gone) went ok at first ... but after her final Slam title, she was also never able to havethe same success.

Then again, Serena is younger than Davenport was when she was gone, and she hasn't been out as long as Seles was.

But does anybody see another Serena Slam?


Serena is younger and a lot more motivated than Davenport or Seles. Monica played simply because she loves the game, if she were truly committed she would have done what was necessary to get physically fit. She let the game pass her by.

What about Capriati's resurgance from her self imposed hell?

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:35 PM
Lindsay did, yes.

But Serena didn't look so mentally tough in 2000-2001. So that tells me that she's not an insurmountable wall of woman upstairs either. :)

She still always was tougher than Lindsay imo....if Lindsay gets matched in power, she´s always cooked...

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:36 PM
Serena has played Venus on grass three times...it's 2-1. she had nothing but nerves when they played in 00, played well in 02 (won in STRAIGHTS) and 03 something unexplainable was going on but she still won...when has Venus come close to beating Serena @ 100% on grass :confused:

re Justine beating her on clay, Justine IMO is like Jennifer Capriati, and always seems to bring the worst out in Serena. that's not a bad thing, in fact it's quite smart how they capitalize. when Serena plays well vs Justine, i don't think she's even got a set...but Serena 100% on clay? haven't seen it yet

Sexy Jezebel Whore.

In all seriousness, "Serena 100%" will not show up on clay. That is because Serena's best tennis is always produced on a hardcourt, grasscourts running a close second. She's a French Open champion, but it's her worst surface (only because her record on the other two biggies is so good).

Serena's best tennis on clay versus Justine's best tennis on clay? I'd favour Justine by a small margin. Not that I think Serena will fail to notch wins on JHH on the surface, but I think she'll get the shorter end of the stick.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:36 PM
She still always was tougher than Lindsay imo....if Lindsay gets matched in power, she´s always cooked...

Mental toughness, bandabou. This is what we're discussing.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:37 PM
And it isn´t Justine really that brings out the worst out of Serena, it´s more the clay that brings out the worst out of Serena.

I wish I'd read that before replying to SexyJezebelWhore. i t made me redundant!

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:39 PM
Thing is ms Ans....when you have been at the very top, there´s only ONE way to go and that is down. Seeing how many or rather how few players have won even the career-slam, let alone four in a row, it wouldn´t be fair to compare Serena to that standard.

Serena´s gonna be back...she´s bound to realize that it is tennis she does and likes best and she will remain a major force.

Lindsay and Monica were SLOOOWWW to begin with and ANY injury would diminish their chances, but Serena even at 80 % is more athletic than most...
Well, it's not that I don't want her to come back.

SJW
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:40 PM
Sexy Jezebel Whore.

In all seriousness, "Serena 100%" will not show up on clay. That is because Serena's best tennis is always produced on a hardcourt, grasscourts running a close second. She's a French Open champion, but it's her worst surface (only because her record on the other two biggies is so good).

Serena's best tennis on clay versus Justine's best tennis on clay? I'd favour Justine by a small margin. Not that I think Serena will fail to notch wins on JHH on the surface, but I think she'll get the shorter end of the stick.
that's ok, Serena is a coward and hardly plays clay anyway :tape::)

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:40 PM
Serena is younger and a lot more motivated than Davenport or Seles. Monica played simply because she loves the game, if she were truly committed she would have done what was necessary to get physically fit. She let the game pass her by.

What about Capriati's resurgance from her self imposed hell?

Da Forehand, I didn't mention Jennifer because she didn't suffer an injury. Seles and Davenport both did (and Lindsay's was even a knee injury).

But one thing ... when Monica returned, she was ... 21. How old is Serena right now? I think that's comparable. And yes, I know, she never got into shape, blah blah blah. But that goes to show my point. When she came back, things were tougher, and she didn't commit. Who is to say Serena will?

And I did mention that Lindsay was much older than her when she was hurt and returned and that might be a possible reason why her example doesn't apply.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:41 PM
that's ok, Serena is a coward and hardly plays clay anyway :tape::)

But boy does she walk the red carpet like no other!

DA FOREHAND
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:45 PM
Monica not getting into shape had little to do w/her layoff. Monica was never an athlete, nor was she ever among the fittest players on the tour. Mary Carillo once commented that the only exercise Monica ever did was play tennis. That's just not gonna get it done against the fittest players tennis has ever seen.

Monica was 21 and "just happy to be back playing", Serena won't settle for that, she's gonna wanna kick sum ass and put people on notice, not to mention Nike has offered her a few peanuts as incentive.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:53 PM
Well, it's not that I don't want her to come back.

Aaah....I somehow got that impression.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:57 PM
Da Forehand, I didn't mention Jennifer because she didn't suffer an injury. Seles and Davenport both did (and Lindsay's was even a knee injury).

But one thing ... when Monica returned, she was ... 21. How old is Serena right now? I think that's comparable. And yes, I know, she never got into shape, blah blah blah. But that goes to show my point. When she came back, things were tougher, and she didn't commit. Who is to say Serena will?

And I did mention that Lindsay was much older than her when she was hurt and returned and that might be a possible reason why her example doesn't apply.

Who out there is better than or can even compete with Serena even in half-shape?! Justine, Kim, Venus....that´s it.

And I don´t think Serena´s gonna come to tennis without being fully commited.

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM
Aaah....I somehow got that impression.
No, really, I want her to be back as soon as possible and all the other top players too 'cause this is just boring as hell.
I just don't believe in her return, but I hope you're the one who's right this time. (just for once)

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:00 PM
that's ok, Serena is a coward and hardly plays clay anyway :tape::)

:haha: :rolls: Funny.

But remember her words: "I ain´t afraid of noone. I´ll play you anytime at anyplace on any surface." So don´t really think that Serena´s scared to play Justine, not even on clay. For all clay being her worst surface, her matches against Justine were tantalizing close... a point here or there.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:01 PM
No, really, I want her to be back as soon as possible and all the other top players too 'cause this is just boring as hell.
I just don't believe in her return, but I hope you're the one who's right this time. (just for once)

What part don´t believe in?! That she´s gonna return or that she´s gonna be as good as she was?!

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:08 PM
What part don´t believe in?! That she´s gonna return or that she´s gonna be as good as she was?!
Erhm, you can read, can't you? I said literally "I don't believe in her return".

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:14 PM
Erhm, you can read, can't you? I said literally "I don't believe in her return".

So literaly: Winning wimbledon was the last thing we saw from Serena on a tennis-court?!

Hmm...and that doesn´t have anything to do with hoping this will make it easier for Kim to win that elusive GS-title?! ;)

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:22 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm sorry, I lost you. The only thing I wanted to say is that I HOPE Serena will come back because things need to get a bit more exciting. It's boring watching tournies with the knowledge your fave will wil or at least reach the finals.
But I THINK Serena won't return, she would have been back already.

I have no idea how you try to explain my posts actually.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:25 PM
:confused: :confused: :confused:

I'm sorry, I lost you. The only thing I wanted to say is that I HOPE Serena will come back because things need to get a bit more exciting. It's boring watching tournies with the knowledge your fave will wil or at least reach the finals.
But I THINK Serena won't return, she would have been back already.

I have no idea how you try to explain my posts actually.

I only answer/read what you write... we don´t know really how the injury/surgery went and how it´s healed, so maybe that´s what´s taking more time. Yeah it is taking long, but not coming back alltogether?! No,no...she´s gonna be back or at least I hope so.

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:34 PM
I think she's gonna choose for her career in showbizz.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:38 PM
I think she's gonna choose for her career in showbizz.

Really?! I know, I know....she´s been ALL over the spotlights and at parties lately, but I hope she´s being honest with herself and knows that acting isn´t what she does best. If she´d chose acting over tennis....what a pitty, ´cause she´d be wasting a huuugggee chance to build an even more all-time career.

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:39 PM
Really?! I know, I know....she´s been ALL over the spotlights and at parties lately, but I hope she´s being honest with herself and knows that acting isn´t what she does best. If she´d chose acting over tennis....what a pitty, ´cause she´d be wasting a huuugggee chance to build an even more all-time career.
Indeed.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:43 PM
Indeed.

Funny thing is: Me and you are actually hoping for the same thing to happen, but for different reasons......or maybe not! So we CAN agree sometimes, huh?! :lol: ;)

ans
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:48 PM
Funny thing is: Me and you are actually hoping for the same thing to happen, but for different reasons......or maybe not! So we CAN agree sometimes, huh?! :lol: ;)
We can, dear, we can.:hug:

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 21st, 2004, 03:51 PM
Who out there is better than or can even compete with Serena even in half-shape?! Justine, Kim, Venus....that´s it.

And I don´t think Serena´s gonna come to tennis without being fully commited.

Again, bandabou, you're throwing things out like "80%" or "half-shape" and it's like what that dude said earlier. He was ridiculed, but he was right. Those terms mean nothing.

xcrtbckhnd
Feb 21st, 2004, 04:04 PM
Serena will come back blasting away. I actually am not a huge fan, but I still think she is more than proven herself as the best all-around player out there. Her record pretty much speaks for herself, and there's really no doubt that she's the best server amongst the women. I think her serve will really be the part of her game that will help her re-establish herself. If she comes back and her serve is on, she's going to fly. If her serve is inconsistent or not what it was before, the other players have chances against her. Realistically, I think her serve and the rest of her game may need a few matches to start clicking, but I wouldn't be surprised to see her win her first tournament back at all. Unlike Lindsay, I doubt Serena will struggle with closing out her matches when she returns and that should help as well. The other players may have more confidence playing Serena when she returns which may make for some tricky matches, but I still think Serena will prevail. When is she supposed to come back anyways? Miami?

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 04:24 PM
Again, bandabou, you're throwing things out like "80%" or "half-shape" and it's like what that dude said earlier. He was ridiculed, but he was right. Those terms mean nothing.

what I meant is, even if she returned at 80 % of what she was when she left, she still is gonna be a tough player to beat for most.

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 04:25 PM
We can, dear, we can.:hug:

:cool: :lol:

LindsayRocks89
Feb 21st, 2004, 07:17 PM
well its not like Lindsay was playing badly, i mean she got to like a bunch of semis and finals right after she got back so im sure serena can do the same thing ;)

bandabou
Feb 21st, 2004, 07:49 PM
well its not like Lindsay was playing badly, i mean she got to like a bunch of semis and finals right after she got back so im sure serena can do the same thing ;)

Yeah, but Serena will go on to win too...

dreamgoddess099
Feb 22nd, 2004, 04:34 AM
She knows how she feels, but I don't think she can see the future either. You don't have to see your future to effect it. She has the most control because she makes the first decision which way her career will go. Even if she only knows 1% of her future, she still knows more than the 0% everybody here knows.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:20 AM
what I meant is, even if she returned at 80 % of what she was when she left, she still is gonna be a tough player to beat for most.

I know, BUT WHAT IS 80 PERCENT OF WHAT SHE WAS AT? You're breaking something down to mathematical terms which cannot be. Therefore, it makes no sense.

CinnamoninCinema
Feb 22nd, 2004, 05:21 AM
You don't have to see your future to effect it. She has the most control because she makes the first decision which way her career will go. Even if she only knows 1% of her future, she still knows more than the 0% everybody here knows.

I'm not disagreeing.

Tell me again why I can't ask this question? Or why I should address it to Serena? That was an annoying post, by the way. "oh, go ask SERENA." Yeah, because, I can do that. Idiot.

William Hunt
Feb 22nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
I don't think Serena will ever return. She seems to have more interest in fashion and to have lost motivation for a come-back. It's a pitty because I would like to see another duel between Serena and Kim or Justine (Serena would probably not beat them anymore I think, since both Belgians have improved their quality of game a lot since Serena was absent).

azza
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:35 AM
Shes retired.

bandabou
Feb 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM
I don't think Serena will ever return. She seems to have more interest in fashion and to have lost motivation for a come-back. It's a pitty because I would like to see another duel between Serena and Kim or Justine (Serena would probably not beat them anymore I think, since both Belgians have improved their quality of game a lot since Serena was absent).

:haha: :rolls: Kim´s improved?! In what department?! Only one I can think of is in the "losing GS-finals without putting a fight"-department!

Plus the game for beating Myskina and Kapros etc, doesn´t compare to game needed to beat Serena.

faste5683
Feb 22nd, 2004, 11:35 AM
I don't think Serena will ever return. She seems to have more interest in fashion and to have lost motivation for a come-back. It's a pitty because I would like to see another duel between Serena and Kim or Justine (Serena would probably not beat them anymore I think, since both Belgians have improved their quality of game a lot since Serena was absent).

"I'm an actress, I'm a model and an athlete. I put athlete third on my list. I prefer actress, model, athlete...I got a lot of positive feedback from the Sports Illustrated shoot. Actually it was all positive. People were astonished and amazed. And modeling for Vogue was fun. Every week that I'm not on the court, I'm doing a photo shoot or modeling for a magazine cover. It's wild...Oh yeah, I also do PR for Venus's home design company. I go out and get jobs for her. I was talking to (comedian-turned-actor) Chris Tucker. He promised he'd let Venus do his house." -- The "full-figured" (as Reuters put it) "actress" Serena Williams."

Quotes from TennisX.com

Melly Flew Us
Feb 26th, 2004, 12:50 AM
What are you talking about?
give ma a J

dreamgoddess099
Feb 27th, 2004, 07:49 AM
Or why I should address it to Serena? Because she knows more about Serena than you do.
by the way. "oh, go ask SERENA." Yeah, because, I can do that. Idiot.Actually, you can idiot. She has a website where you can ask her questions.

Melly Flew Us
Mar 7th, 2004, 02:56 PM
chaka khan

DeDe4925
Mar 8th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Serena will come back blasting away. I actually am not a huge fan, but I still think she is more than proven herself as the best all-around player out there. Her record pretty much speaks for herself, and there's really no doubt that she's the best server amongst the women. I think her serve will really be the part of her game that will help her re-establish herself. If she comes back and her serve is on, she's going to fly. If her serve is inconsistent or not what it was before, the other players have chances against her. Realistically, I think her serve and the rest of her game may need a few matches to start clicking, but I wouldn't be surprised to see her win her first tournament back at all. Unlike Lindsay, I doubt Serena will struggle with closing out her matches when she returns and that should help as well. The other players may have more confidence playing Serena when she returns which may make for some tricky matches, but I still think Serena will prevail. When is she supposed to come back anyways? Miami?
Great post :worship:
My sentiments exactly.

DeDe4925
Mar 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
I don't think Serena will ever return. She seems to have more interest in fashion and to have lost motivation for a come-back. It's a pitty because I would like to see another duel between Serena and Kim or Justine (Serena would probably not beat them anymore I think, since both Belgians have improved their quality of game a lot since Serena was absent).
You've got to be kidding. :rolleyes:

wongqks
Mar 8th, 2004, 04:51 PM
I think Serena will come back very strong, is it realistic to think she will come back and win everything, I doubt it. On the other hand, I cannot see her lose to just a handful of players.

Venus having a lot of trouble at the moment since coming back, so we just have to hope that Serena really train up and play her best tennis when she come back :)

DeDe4925
Mar 8th, 2004, 04:52 PM
Because she knows more about Serena than you do.
Actually, you can idiot. She has a website where you can ask her questions.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

pisces
Mar 8th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Believe it or not Serena Williams ,has a big contact with Nike.Serena will come back.Better then every.So will my VENUS WLLIAMS.JUST WAIT AND SEEEEEEEE.I believe i read ,more wins more money my litle girl gets..I dn"t think Serena like getting SUE?

cheesestix
Mar 9th, 2004, 12:33 AM
:haha: :rolls: Funny.

But remember her words: "I ain´t afraid of noone. I´ll play you anytime at anyplace on any surface." So don´t really think that Serena´s scared to play Justine, not even on clay. For all clay being her worst surface, her matches against Justine were tantalizing close... a point here or there.

That quote is so laughable at this point, don't you think?

Ummmmm, "anytime"? Where is she?

Ummmmm, "anyplace"? Where is she?

She's had several opportunities so far this year, but she hasn't even tried to play this year. So, I'm afraid that quote has little or no value at this point. She's not backing it up at all!

If she can still beat everyone else when she is only 80% ( :rolleyes: ), then why is she not at least trying?

Dede42
Mar 9th, 2004, 03:49 AM
That quote is so laughable at this point, don't you think?

Ummmmm, "anytime"? Where is she?

Ummmmm, "anyplace"? Where is she?

She's had several opportunities so far this year, but she hasn't even tried to play this year. So, I'm afraid that quote has little or no value at this point. She's not backing it up at all!

If she can still beat everyone else when she is only 80% ( :rolleyes: ), then why is she not at least trying?
Yeah she's scared, that's why she's not playing. :rolleyes:

~ The Leopard ~
Mar 9th, 2004, 04:16 AM
I love watching the newbies play.

bandabou
Mar 9th, 2004, 05:11 AM
That quote is so laughable at this point, don't you think?

Ummmmm, "anytime"? Where is she?

Ummmmm, "anyplace"? Where is she?

She's had several opportunities so far this year, but she hasn't even tried to play this year. So, I'm afraid that quote has little or no value at this point. She's not backing it up at all!

If she can still beat everyone else when she is only 80% ( :rolleyes: ), then why is she not at least trying?

Better be careful for what you wish for......might just become true!

starr
Mar 9th, 2004, 05:16 AM
Is she going to be the player she once was?

Davenport had knee surgery in January 2002. When she returned by July, she never did get back to where she left off at.

Seles' return after the stabbing (albeit an absence 4X as long as Serena has been gone) went ok at first ... but after her final Slam title, she was also never able to havethe same success.

Then again, Serena is younger than Davenport was when she was gone, and she hasn't been out as long as Seles was.

But does anybody see another Serena Slam?
BJK had her knees sliced six ways to Sunday before there was such a thing as laproscopic outpaient surgery (the procedure Serena had) and came back to play at the top of the game.

An American runner won the Olympic marathon about 6 weeks after she had laproscopic surgery on her knee.

I think that the surgery itself is no barrier at all to Serena being a number one player if that is what she wants to do.

maximus82
Mar 9th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Here's hoping that Serena (and the other 50% of the tour that is out injured) can come back 100%......things are getting utterly yawn-worthy with so few contenders for the titles being around. Where's all the drama that used to love the WTA for? I'm beginning to like the ATP (yick)...

G_Slammed
Mar 9th, 2004, 12:53 PM
For all clay being her worst surface, her matches against Justine were tantalizing close... a point here or there.
.. a lie here, a hand there.

Dede42
Mar 10th, 2004, 04:50 AM
BJK had her knees sliced six ways to Sunday before there was such a thing as laproscopic outpaient surgery (the procedure Serena had) and came back to play at the top of the game.

An American runner won the Olympic marathon about 6 weeks after she had laproscopic surgery on her knee.

I think that the surgery itself is no barrier at all to Serena being a number one player if that is what she wants to do.
Of course, I suppose you can produce a medical degree and license to back up your theory.

Dede42
Mar 10th, 2004, 04:51 AM
.. a lie here, a hand there.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

bandabou
Mar 10th, 2004, 05:17 AM
.. a lie here, a hand there.


ssshh......don´t think Serena forgot about that part.