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crazillo
Feb 18th, 2004, 03:54 PM
In My opinion it is one of the best first-Round encounters we´ll have this year. It´s a real shame i won´t see it on TV!


I think that it depends on Magdalena who´ll win. Now some will say: Pierce can overpower her. I think that is wrong, at least on carpet.
Maleeva is able, however, to play superb tennis on carpet. Of course Pierce will attack Maggies second serves, but Pierce can´t move well and i am sure Maggie will try to be agressive herself because she knows what happens otherwise.
She is in a good shape (just that she commited to Antwerp that late shows that) and Pierce is not able to play two good tournaments in a row due to any injury. I think Maggie will do it in three sets.

jimbo mack
Feb 18th, 2004, 03:58 PM
i'm going for maleeva in this one :)

Andrew.
Feb 18th, 2004, 04:32 PM
Well last I checked, Mary wasn't injured. :unsure: But she played great tennis last week, and both she and Maggie have always played well on carpet. I think that it will be Pierce in two tight sets. Something like 76 64.

ghosts
Feb 18th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Maleeva 7-5 4-6 6-3 :bounce: :yeah:

crazillo
Feb 18th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Ghosts, yesterday you said something different^^

ghosts
Feb 18th, 2004, 04:59 PM
yes but now I've changes mind ;) :)

Goo Maggie :woohoo:

Andrew.
Feb 18th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Allez Mary.

Declan
Feb 18th, 2004, 05:25 PM
In My opinion it is one of the best first-Round encounters we´ll have this year. It´s a real shame i won´t see it on TV!


I think that it depends on Magdalena who´ll win. Now some will say: Pierce can overpower her. I think that is wrong, at least on carpet.
Maleeva is able, however, to play superb tennis on carpet. Of course Pierce will attack Maggies second serves, but Pierce can´t move well and i am sure Maggie will try to be agressive herself because she knows what happens otherwise.
She is in a good shape (just that she commited to Antwerp that late shows that) and Pierce is not able to play two good tournaments in a row due to any injury. I think Maggie will do it in three sets.


Two long-time observations I have made on this website is that firstly, people are too quick to make inaccurate sweeping comments such as 'Pierce can't move well'. Yes, movement is not the strongest part of her game but you don't win two Slams by being a slumberous sloth on court as Mary is often depicted on here! Also, I believe that Maggie's indoor prowess is somewhat overstated on occasions.

Also, Mary beat Maleeva in straight sets on carpet at Filderstadt just three months ago, did she not?

crazillo
Feb 18th, 2004, 05:39 PM
straight sets????? 7-5, 7-6 (6) and 2-5 down in oje set and 4-6 in the tiebreak is straight??????????? you´re kidding

morbidangle
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Its still straight sets!

Stefwhit
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Two long-time observations I have made on this website is that firstly, people are too quick to make inaccurate sweeping comments such as 'Pierce can't move well'. Yes, movement is not the strongest part of her game but you don't win two Slams by being a slumberous sloth on court as Mary is often depicted on here! Also, I believe that Maggie's indoor prowess is somewhat overstated on occasions.

Also, Mary beat Maleeva in straight sets on carpet at Filderstadt just three months ago, did she not?
I don't think it's a "sweeping comment" to say that Pierce isn't the best mover on tour. The good news for Mary though, is that she can obviously compensate quite well for her lack of mobility and if she is striking the ball well then the fact that she's a little slow isn't really that big of a deal. With that said, since she is a little slow if her opponent can exploit that weakness then her movement can be a big issue. Same goes for Davenport, she's not any worse than she was when she was winning her slams it's just that the top players can exploit her lack of mobility a lot better now, which just means she, like Pierce, has to compensate by having the other parts of there game be as solid as possible to win over the tougher opponents... I wouldn't exactly call Maggie "a tougher opponent" but her favorite surface is carpet and she's had wins over some real quality opponents so although she's not the overwhelming favorite she's got just as good a shot as Mary to score the win....

cheo23
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:17 PM
HMMMMMMMMM..Yeah I agree with the person that my girl Mary can't Play 2 Tournaments back to back..We'll See how she fairs in this good ASS Match Up with Maggie..Go Mary!!!!!!!!!! We Love U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Declan
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:21 PM
I don't think it's a "sweeping comment" to say that Pierce isn't the best mover on tour. The good news for Mary though, is that she can obviously compensate quite well for her lack of mobility and if she is striking the ball well then the fact that she's a little slow isn't really that big of a deal. With that said, since she is a little slow if her opponent can exploit that weakness then her movement can be a big issue. Same goes for Davenport, she's not any worse than she was when she was winning her slams it's just that the top players can exploit her lack of mobility a lot better now, which just means she, like Pierce, has to compensate by having the other parts of there game be as solid as possible to win over the tougher opponents... I wouldn't exactly call Maggie "a tougher opponent" but her favorite surface is carpet and she's had wins over some real quality opponents so although she's not the overwhelming favorite she's got just as good a shot as Mary to score the win....

But this thread's starter DIDN'T say 'Pierce isn't the best mover on tour', which would be correct. He made the bald statement 'Pierce can't move well' which is definitely questionable.
I agree that this a close one, which could go either way. Much depends on how Mary recovered from the exertions of last week. Interestingly all their previous matches went to three sets, apart from Filderstadt last autumn, which, sorry Crazillo, WAS a straight sets win - look up the meaning!

Doraemon
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:31 PM
But this thread's starter DIDN'T say 'Pierce isn't the best mover on tour', which would be correct. He made the bald statement 'Pierce can't move well' which is definitely questionable.
I agree that this a close one, which could go either way. Much depends on how Mary recovered from the exertions of last week. Interestingly all their previous matches went to three sets, apart from Filderstadt last autumn, which, sorry Crazillo, WAS a straight sets win - look up the meaning!

Both played very well in their previous tournaments respetively. Like you said, Mary's exhausion from her run in Paris could be a deciding factor and if I'm not misinformed, the court used in Antwarp isn't a carpet but an indoor hardcourt, isn't it? I think Maggie is at her best in a fast carpet like the one used in Toray, so the surface in Antwarp won't favor her as much in my opinion but then she has done very well on indoor hardcourts before. Their past mathces have been all very close and I expect this one to be no different. Personally, I would give Maggie the edge mainly because she played very well a few weeks ago whether Mary is tired or not.

Tompier
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:39 PM
When I sow "..Mary can't move well.." I wanted to argue with crazzilo but now I see Declan did my job :) . Mary isn't the fastest player on the tour but She can move well
for sure. GO MARY :bounce:

Doraemon
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:43 PM
When I sow "..Mary can't move well.." I wanted to argue with crazzilo but now I see Declan did my job :) . Mary isn't the fastest player on the tour but She can move well
for sure. GO MARY :bounce:

Well Crazzilo was just exaggerating the fact that her limited mobility is one of the weaknesses in her game and Maggie will exploit it. I think he was right about her movement except that he really made it sound as if she were as slow as a snail. I dunno how fit Mary is now but the last time I saw her which was about a year ago, she didn't look great.. honestly she looked overweight and wasn't moving well. I'm sure she's gotten in better shape in the recent months and her results in Paris speak for themselves. But, whatever you say, when you take on Mary, moving her around is the key to your victory. In that sense, I don't see anything wrong with what crazzilo said about her movement.

Stefwhit
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Well Crazzilo was just exaggerating the fact that her limited mobility is one of the weaknesses in her game and Maggie will exploit it. I think he was right about her movement except that he really made it sound as if she were as slow as a snail. I dunno how fit Mary is now but the last time I saw her which was about a year ago, she didn't look great.. honestly she looked overweight and wasn't moving well. I'm sure she's gotten in better shape in the recent months and her results in Paris speak for themselves. But, whatever you say, when you take on Mary, moving her around is the key to your victory. In that sense, I don't see anything wrong with what crazzilo said about her movement.
That's how I took Crazzilo's post as well, it was a slight exageration based on truth, with many valid points that Saint Seiya outlines really well...

crazillo
Feb 18th, 2004, 06:49 PM
Please call me Crazillo.... Thx!!!
Well, i mean comparde to other top players Pierce doesn´t move well.... And IMO Maggie will try to use this to her advantage.
and i saw the match live and it was close!!!

NicoMary
Feb 18th, 2004, 07:04 PM
i would say Pierce 6,4 6,2

Stefwhit
Feb 18th, 2004, 07:08 PM
Please call me Crazillo.... Thx!!!
Well, i mean comparde to other top players Pierce doesn´t move well.... And IMO Maggie will try to use this to her advantage.
and i saw the match live and it was close!!!
Give me a break... you can't even spell "compared" right but I'm supposed to spell "Crazillo" correctly... :nerner:

crazillo
Feb 18th, 2004, 08:10 PM
sry, it was a mistake of mine.... but i guess all here say crazzilo and m y name has a special background so plz call me crazillo