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Mary lost 3-6 1-6

Venus hit alot of winners and just a few errors so
it seams as she played a good match and puted Mary under
alot of pressure.
I'm not that happy with all the errors Mary did hit and she didn't
manage to get in to that many first serves either.

But some nice fresh points to her ranking. This was a great week though
and let us hope that she can play even better in Wimbeldon later next month.

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OK I am not mad at her for losing, but I am a little mad at Mary for making all those unforced errors! whats up with that! the match was far closer than the score suggests! And what about that easy forehand into the open court that she missed at 0-3,40-0 in the second set! MARY! And the first serve percentage was sooo low. Other than that, most games were closely contested, but at the big points, either Mary hit an error or Venus hit a winner. Venus played a good match and Mary would've had difficulty winning, but c'mon... she was playing better than 6-3,6-1! MARYYYYYYYYYYY

Now I have to wait another 2 weeks for Mary to play a match!

And she has to defend more than 200 points at Wimbledon! Oh well GOOO MARY! I've rooted for you for 10 years now and I am gonna be rooting for you again no matter what!
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well, i watched the match on tv. mary played a baaaaaaaaaaad match
she just can't find the rythm! at all! you can't say that she's nervous. she is not. but she's not that focus in the game. and she had some chances, but can't catch them. she definitely needs more matches like this to remind her how to concentrate in the game.
hope she do better in wimbeldon~
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her forehand is terrible today
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Well I "watched" the match via the live scoreboard (damn you eurosport!) and most of the games were very close.


Mary's first serve % was way too low though and she just didn't take her chances on game/break points. She also made far too many unforced errors against a player like Venus, maybe she was going for too much??

A bit disappointing, but I do think the scoreline is misleading. After watching Dementieva yesterday and Myskina today, I think it was just a case of a terrible draw.
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i taped it. will see if i could share it. do you guys use BT (BitTorrent)?
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Hi Ali -- I saw the match, and let me tell you, you're absolutely right, the scoreline is misleading, the match was way closer than that, Mary gave Venus a run for her money, and I think that in a way 3 and 1 is an unfair score and definitely doesn't reflect the level of play in today's match.

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No, the scoreboard is very missleading, she had so many advantages
and gamepoints and it's ashame that Mary couldn't take any of those.
But I don't understand why she didn't play a little easier, I can imagine
that she wanted to finish the points as quick as possible but she of all players should know that, that isn't possible to play like for a whole match.

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Hello!

I saw the whole match today and anything I could say is nothing more than what Mary said in a french interview after the match : She was very disappointed because she played a bad game. She said it wouldn't matter to loose if she'd play good but it was not the case. She was sad and furious for the bad 1st serve and the unforced faults. She knows that against that kind of player she have to do the less errors she can. But finally she said that her game and good shape come back and she can still be one of the best player in the world even if the girls today are better than 4 or 5 years ago.

What a pity that mary has put so much pressure on herself. Noone were asking her to win but to play her game (the same than in the 2nd round) to enjoy struggle against venus. She took too much risk.
Mary, I love you , your backhand and forehands are still there but I have to say that the legs must be back to make wishes for the future. Sorry to say that 5 or 10 pounds less would be great. Love you, courage for Wimbledon. You'll have less pressure cause you already have some points from this 3rd round in RG so.... enjoy and make us dream
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Ok so ...
I don't think that the real problem is her legs : ok, that's sure, mary is not very fast, and she can't defend her ground against a hard-hitter player like Venus, but I don't believe the problem is here ...

If Mary has lost such a way, it's because of her mistakes, and her bad serve. She has very bad played. I do think that if she has played like she did thursday, she would have been more dangerous for Venus, and I think that the victory would have been possible ...
But today, it was a bad day. Why ? Probably beacause Mary knew that she had to play a great match, and she were probably thinking that she had to play the lines, to be sure to win the point against Venus ... In fact, the only thing she had to do was "playing her game".

And of course, the score didn't reflect the match : 6/3 6/1, ok, but 1h16, and a 13-minute game !
So, I think (I think a lot of things lol) that Mary is not as far ... She was able to beat venus, i'm sure about it ... but she didn't win ! But it's not the end, for sure, she only has to raealize that she has not to do the perfect match to beat those great players, she has not to touch the lines ...
Once again, she only has to play her game, like usual : first serves, and a big shot, even if her shot is not on the line ...

Go mary, we love you, today, you were bad, but tomorrow, you'll be good !

I hope that she will play well on grass, like last year, and I think that she is better on grass than she was in the past. So, at Wimbledon, and with a good draw, I think that she can go to quarters, or more, really ! And at S hertogenbosh, she can, why not, play the final lol

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They're showing the match on NBC.

I love her, even if she lost. You're great, Mary! She looks so hot today, too!


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Hi wizzi maryfan!

I agree with you about the lines. That's what I mean when I talk about the pressure she put on herself.
I don't say that the 1rst problem of the match is about the legs but in the future it will be a big problem if Mary wants to come back in the top 10. If you watch again the today match, anytime venus (or any powerful player) play big shots, Mary's defense become awful. Few days ago, I watched Mary's final in RG 2000, and her defense was really better. She ran everywhere. Even she's maybe more powerful today, she has to retrieve her abilities to defend. We'll see.
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Sorry, it's wizzy and not wizzi
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Day 6 - Mary Pierce Interview

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/ne...852766277.html


Q. Obviously, it wasn't your best day out there. Could you sort of assess how you thought Venus was moving and striking the ball and sort of where her game was.
MARY PIERCE: Well, I mean, I think it's pretty tough to assess that when there's really not much happening too much out there. You know, I mean, there was maybe, I think, maybe one rally that we had in the whole match or...

So, you know, like you said, it was definitely not my day out there. It's a disappointing loss for me because I really am starting to feel, you know, pretty good physically and also my game, I feel like I'm starting to play well again. You know, my first couple matches here - especially my second one - I thought things were starting to come together.

So just real disappointed about today, not just the fact about losing because that happens, but just the fact about not playing a better match and, you know, think I would have definitely enjoyed it a lot more if I would have played a lot better.

So it's really difficult. You know, Venus is one of the best players. I mean, just to play against her, you really have to come with your top game so I really just didn't give myself that chance today out there.

THE MODERATOR: Questions in French, please.

Q. This match started very rapidly for Venus, 4-0, then you go back 3-2, and we have the feeling that maybe it will balance out. Can you tell us how you felt that moment of the match and when she really got started.

MARY PIERCE: I had great difficulties getting into the match, in all the senses - first of all, the game, the tennis, the way I was hitting the ball, my mental frame of mind. I had great difficulties getting into the match.

I wanted this match badly, and I wanted to have a very good match, so it was a lot of pressure for me. I was not relaxed enough, I was not playing freely, I was not moving well on the court either. It's a great pity, because I had the feeling that my game was improving in the tournament.

Once again, it's proof that when I have certain pressure on me. When I'm thinking too hard that I should win, it's the worst tennis that comes out of me. So I have to be careful what I do and avoid that sort of pressure. But it's not easy because you want to win.

Venus played very solid tennis as well, very steady, so it was difficult, very deep shots. It was very difficult.

Q. First game in the second set we have the feeling that it was tight, that you could get back into the match at that point.

MARY PIERCE: Well, ups and downs. I was there at certain times and I wasn't there at other times. I think that I was quite lucky, because I made quite a lot of unforced errors on easy points. Maybe at 4-0, second set, I felt much more relaxed, strangely enough. Then 3-0, 3-2 I felt good again. Then, again, I put too much pressure on myself and it went bad again.

Q. A year ago you decided to go to live in Amsterdam and work with Sven again. Do you think that maybe you have to think about this again and change objectives and think about it and maybe reshuffle everything?

MARY PIERCE: I don't know. It's early. It's too early to think about all this.

Q. In the short run, what do you want to do, are you going to go straight to England?

MARY PIERCE: No, to England, no, straightaway. I might stay a few days in France and visit my family because during the tournament I have no time for that. So these are my plans for the days to come.
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Well no problem Mary! learn from this and move on.. I hope she plays better at Wimbledon. Somehow I feel that these days Mary has a better chance of beating top players on grass than on clay. She can end the points quicker and she can be a real threat even if she is only serving well. Hopefully this year Mary will get a better draw at Wimbledon with no Justine/Venus/Serena/Lindsay in the third round.
GOOD LUCK MARY!
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