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I received today some messages about the dessition of juniors only playing grand slams and events were they received a wc.

Some of those say to me that they agree on gaining a place in the tournaments by winning jr events as that would increase the interest on jrs. Anyways I also receive the message from some of them + sonfo who runs challengers about why not letting play challengers.

Anyways, this problem has been since the beggining as some players dont like the idea of having jrs as some of the pro's lose always to them in the main draws

So I give me a solution.

Should challengers have few players, should jrs be able to play 2 or 3 challengers + their winning wc's.

Should jr players that want to play fuck theirselves as they can't.

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I think the new system will work great in the long run.

But challengers will be difficult, may I suggest challenger being held once every two weeks, and junior are allowed to partake 10 challengers in a year (as oppose to 10 pros now)

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i think juniors should only be in grand slams plus 1 or 2 wcs a year in home contry, etc.


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i think juniors should only be in grand slams plus 1 or 2 wcs a year in home contry, etc.
I agree! Do you see any real junior getting WC in challengers every week? No! Plus, it was that way a year and half ago when Tennis124 was running the junior tour and I thought it was great! It forces you to get off your butt and think!
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Pff, I will give up doing challengers if the juniors can't play. Nowadays the 50-60% of the players that play challengers are juniors, and there's no way I will make challengers with only three players playing it.

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I don't think juniors should play challengers either. I mean if Jacquelyn has the opportunity to earn points every week vs. playing on the jr. tour..she'd play challengers all the time.

Although I do understand sonfo's problem...maybe a few challengers a year plus grand slams? I dunno I just play so I don't have to make these decisions lol

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To be honest, I'd just put challenger during the second week of GS or big Tier 1 events. Generally, there are one big tier event per week and a smaller event for lower ranked or number 1 wanting bonus points so I don't see the need for challenger anyway. Sorry sonfo, you do a great job but...
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If you're going to change this, could you wait until next year to do so? I like the system we have now. Of course, to play pro events juniors should have to play junior events, as well. But my junior player plays a few pro events, but that doesn't stop her from participating actively in the junior tour.


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If you're going to change this, could you wait until next year to do so? I like the system we have now. Of course, to play pro events juniors should have to play junior events, as well. But my junior player plays a few pro events, but that doesn't stop her from participating actively in the junior tour.
It is in activation now(the new system)! And I know you participate a lot but some players don't like Lara Miela and Olive Mozzarella-Peperonni! The new rules is because of people like them!
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As I am sure you know. I am very against having two players in the pros. Now I am not very involved with what goes on in the challengers and juniors, but this is what I think.

Are there players that have only a junior player and no pro player? If there is, I think those juniors should be allowed to play challengers. If the poster already has a pro, they should not be allowed to play ANY events. I find it very obnoxious to lose to juniors in the Grand Slams, which happened to me last year at Roland Garros and Wimbledon.

I definitely support the current change. I like it. But I think that if they already have a pro, then what's the point. If they don't then, they should be allowed to play challengers.

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Eggert, if you lose to a junior in a grand slam thats your fault, not the system's. It's fun to have more players in grand slams, so juniors and pros should be allowed

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As I am sure you know. I am very against having two players in the pros. Now I am not very involved with what goes on in the challengers and juniors, but this is what I think.

Are there players that have only a junior player and no pro player? If there is, I think those juniors should be allowed to play challengers. If the poster already has a pro, they should not be allowed to play ANY events. I find it very obnoxious to lose to juniors in the Grand Slams, which happened to me last year at Roland Garros and Wimbledon.

I definitely support the current change. I like it. But I think that if they already have a pro, then what's the point. If they don't then, they should be allowed to play challengers.
I support you Tennis124, i have a Junior player playing, and i like the idea of having juniors involved in the Grand Slam events, they make the draw bigger, but i don`t agree the idea of having 2 players in PRO. I like the idea of having person owner of a Junior and a PRO players, but not TWO pro`s.

As for juniors, its ok for me, the 4 grand slam events + 6 wild card is good.

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I feel like such a right-wing conservative whenever this topic comes up. Thanks for the support petosp!

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Originally Posted by VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
i think juniors should only be in grand slams plus 1 or 2 wcs a year in home contry, etc.
same opinion!
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