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OH NO!!!!! Please, No!

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Sweet Eli,if he doesn't appreciate Dinarik enough,then he doesn't deserve her...and I would say the same thing about anyone who didn't show fidelity to the precious Chicas here in the Domik
Thanks Bruce. And you're right.

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idiot girl of stupidity. it does not work, just give up!

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hoping they'll take time to fix that damn serve after the grass.
that serve is just ridiculous. And when the serve is better, everything else is better. More confidence, more stability. And i know that power is not everything, but... i mean somebody, like Patty, who is small, absolutely not a power-ballbasher can hit 180+ km/h serves, while in the last 2 years Dinara's best was like 175, maybe 180 km/h if she was lucky. Yes, i know, different
racket and string, and Dinara spins much, high bouncing balls makes toubles sometimes, first serves works a couple times, but... it's just stinks. And the 2nd serves is literally sucks every time, so there is no excuse to not change a bit. or the whole.

There is many many time. She is 24, she won't be much older if she takes a couple months off. She has to understand.
Because screwing things up, like she did in the last 2 month is just PATHETIC and literally ruins her carreer.

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Because screwing things up, like she did in the last 2 month is just PATHETIC and literally ruins her carreer.
Yeah. On the one hand, IMO she shouldn't even be back yet, so losing a lot is not very serious or surprising.

On the other hand, coming back months before she should have and losing all the time is destroying her confidence. I had to laugh when I read that one Myskina interview where she said this experience had matured Dinara a lot. Yeah, because coming back on tour a month before you're recovered enough to even practice serving just smacks of rational adult decision making.

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Yeah. On the one hand, IMO she shouldn't even be back yet, so losing a lot is not very serious or surprising.

On the other hand, coming back months before she should have and losing all the time is destroying her confidence. I had to laugh when I read that one Myskina interview where she said this experience had matured Dinara a lot. Yeah, because coming back on tour a month before you're recovered enough to even practice serving just smacks of rational adult decision making.
It just seems that Dinara has the wrong idea about what matches are meant to do for you. Matches test you, they aren't good for really improving you unless you already have all your shots well prepared and need just some fine tuning. This is like someone turning up to sit a lot of exams a month before they are ready, and failing them all. As if failing a test everyday would help you improve. Would be better to spend the time studying (or in Dinara's case, recovering then easing into training). And since her confidence is also being destroyed, there is nothing positive to take from these last few weeks.

She needs to learn something from the WS. Not rushing back is generally better. But she doesn't seem to be the kind to learn fast...
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It just seems that Dinara has the wrong idea about what matches are meant to do for you. Matches test you, they aren't good for really improving you unless you already have all your shots well prepared and need just some fine tuning. This is like someone turning up to sit a lot of exams a month before they are ready, and failing them all. As if failing a test everyday would help you improve. Would be better to spend the time studying (or in Dinara's case, recovering then easing into training). And since her confidence is also being destroyed, there is nothing positive to take from these last few weeks.

She needs to learn something from the WS. Not rushing back is generally better. But she doesn't seem to be the kind to learn fast...
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I didnt watch the match, how did she play?
Im not surprised though
win a match soon please
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It just seems that Dinara has the wrong idea about what matches are meant to do for you. Matches test you, they aren't good for really improving you unless you already have all your shots well prepared and need just some fine tuning. This is like someone turning up to sit a lot of exams a month before they are ready, and failing them all. As if failing a test everyday would help you improve. Would be better to spend the time studying (or in Dinara's case, recovering then easing into training). And since her confidence is also being destroyed, there is nothing positive to take from these last few weeks.

She needs to learn something from the WS. Not rushing back is generally better. But she doesn't seem to be the kind to learn fast...
yeah, agree. i just don't get it, what she's trying or what she's expecting, because it doesn't make sense. last year didn't make any sense. It's just looks like she is really afraid to do anything else in life, and she just keep doing what she did in the last 15 year... i don1t know.
People saying how smart she is... i think she hides it very well, because what she does always looks simply dumb.

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Maybe she is the kind who can't do a couple of things at the same time
I just can't understand why she can't practise enough then go back to court.It's a disaster to lose so many matches in a row I can't believe she just practise her serve from the beginning of FO and has the brave to play on court
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Just wondering,fellow Dinatards: Did this early return spring simply from Dinarik's desire to get back in the game...or did someone persuade or influence her,in any way,to do that??

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Just wondering,fellow Dinatards: Did this early return spring simply from Dinarik's desire to get back in the game...or did someone persuade or influence her,in any way,to do that??
I'm distinctly under the impression that that was all her idea. When she came back, she said something like "everyone, even my brother" was telling her to stay out longer, but she just couldn't stand it anymore.

Personally, I think she feels some kind of desperate need to prove herself to everyone, all the time, and it overrides any other potentially rational thought that might come into her head. Much to her detriment.

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I'm distinctly under the impression that that was all her idea. When she came back, she said something like "everyone, even my brother" was telling her to stay out longer, but she just couldn't stand it anymore.

Personally, I think she feels some kind of desperate need to prove herself to everyone, all the time, and it overrides any other potentially rational thought that might come into her head. Much to her detriment.
Well,I kinda had that same impression,Cristina.....but I normally don't read women well at all...so I didn't wanna jump to hasty conclusions.

Hearing it from YOU is sorta re-assuring cuz it shows that I'm not totally delusional...though it serves as a detriment(as you mentioned),I admire the fact that Dinarik has that hunger for the sport.....There are a couple other gals,ONE in particular...who shall remain nameless...who don't have a fraction of Dinara's earnest

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I admire it, in a way, but there's no question that it works against her a lot of the time. Like right now.

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