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I hate to hear this about Ana. I hope she`ll be back by at least San Diego.
she pulled out of san diego as well.
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I am really disappointed !! This was a big chance for Serbia, and now without Ana chances are minimal ( I hope I am wrong ) !

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Yes, it will be really hard for Serbia now. Jelena may not lose for sure and then see if it's enough.

Really sad for Ana
Just at the time of Fed Cup which she really wanted to play.
No she also misses another Tier I tournament. First Rome and now San Diego. Hopefully the recovery goes will and then she can be TOTALLY 100% in Toronto and for sure in New York.

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Fed Cup is only tennis, this is her health, her body & her future!

And besides that, just the simple fact that she isn't playing doesn't decide Serbia's fate in the tie... It isn't her fault if the others can't stop and play the match of their life to win... Just as it wouldn't be Jelena's if she didn't play.

Pffft to some people

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i think some people simply complain that she is not playing for the national team. for some people that's more important than anything that ana has achieved over past 2 months, playing as a serbian player
Yes I know .
But they have to understand that Ana needs recovery time she can't riSck herself by playing if she is injured........specially when she has so many points to defend in the USO series.

And Ana loves her country and I bet she is sad/dissapointed because she can't play for Serbia rigth now.....but comme on!!!!!!!! some people its been unfair to her and that its not ok.......
The next time she'll play....she its not going to be like Sharapova that always gets injured before a Fed Cup tie.........

Next time she'll be there to defend her country.....

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She's young, she has many more fed cups in her body....but it is a shame she can't and has to pull out of this and more tournies...hope she gets well soon

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I just came to conclusion that Ana should be hung for not playing Fed Cup or she should have her knee cut out. On the main square of Belgrade of course and they should burn her passport too.

Geeeez... Some people need to chill out.

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How many times i have to repeat to idiots buried in PC garbage?
It has nothing with patriotism.
perhaps in your case, but what sane people will bitch about ana being injured and not playing "for them" (for the national team)? it's only serbians who complain about that, you know. and there is nothing wrong with being patriotic, but some people are demanding way too much from ana (and probably other players as well).
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How many times i have to repeat to idiots buried in PC garbage?
It has nothing with patriotism. If we hosted tournament and being able to watch them live no one would say word about Fed Cup. No one ask them to win Fed cup, just to be in world group so they could play home ties.

Any bets Ana wont play next year?
How do u feel about Jelena not playing the 2nd match?

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Im 99% sure she wont play next time either. Any Ana defender that thinks otherwise?
i honestly don't give a fuck about whether she will play in that competiotion or not. and if she is injured she should not play, period. i don't think she has the patriotic duty to work on development of tennis in serbia or to support the serbian national team by saying nice things about them like some weirdoes think. if she does, fine, that's nice of her. if she doesn't that's fine too, she has no obligations in this regard. neither does jelena or any other tennis player. if they do all these things you should be greatful. if they don't you shouldn't complain.
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How come you pick to respond only whats convenient to you?
i don't. i disagree with pretty much everything you and some other people say about this topic and all that stems from my opinion about that competition and about players' obligations towards their countries. i could respond to every single point you have made by just copying those few sentences.

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I said she doesnt have obligation to play.
yet you complain about it all the time, one way or the other of course, just like other people from serbia you are trying to make your argument rational by mentioning how you would like to see her in belgrade and how it's also about the future of tennis in serbia and all that does sound reasonable except for that one point - she doesn't have to do any of that. and...

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But she should stop pretending
she wants to play.
Its not her duty to help, but then why she mentions how she lacked
support when she was younger. If thats bothering her why she doesnt try to change it. Her words and her actions are in collision. Thats my complain.
...how do you know she is pretending? i mean, she played there last year. playing tournaments is her primary concern and that's how it should be. i'm pretty sure she would play fed cup if it doesn't affect her career in a negative way, which can easily happen, especially since she is prone to injuries. fed cup simply should not be her top priority, but once everything falls into place she will be there and serbia will qualify for the world group.

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And again: how do you see her words about zonal event being bellow
her level.
she is right. from the "no obligations" point of view she is being nice when she plays there and if she does it while risking her success at more important competitions it's even outright stupid.

the way i see it, serbians should be happy and greatful about the success of ana, jelena and novak as it is. asking them to do more would be selfish, in a patriotic way. at least that's how i see it.
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TEAM SERBIA - Ana Ivanovic facts


April 2005
Instead playing FED CUP Ana better prepare herself for clay season (especialy for Roland Garros).
RESULT: She reach with 17 years her first GS quarterfinal (Roland Garros), her best slam result before this year.

January 2006
Instead prepare better herself for Australian Open she played HOPMAN CUP for Serbia.
RESULT: She and Djokovic that january at Australia played theys worst tennis in Melbourne instead they best (Ana lose against Stosur in 2nd round and Nole lose against Goldstain in 1st round). She played much better at HC and in Sydnay (won against #1 Mauresmo) but at AO she played tired and lose easy against non seeded player.

April 2006
Instead prepare herself for clay season (especialy for Roland Garros) she played FED CUP and because playing in last day (against Israel) two hard matches in three sets she have injury and ruined her clay 2006 season.
RESULT: She withdraw from Berlin in 1st round because pain and she withdraw from Rome and lose before RG2006 draw TOP16 seed status and easy lose 3rd round match against Myskina.


April 2007
Instead playing FED CUP Ana better prepare herself for 2007 clay season in Barcelona.
RESULT: She won tier-I Berlin (which she withdraw last season because played FED CUP) and reach slam final at Roland Garros (and also first time in career she reach TOP10).

July 2007
Instead rest before start of USO hardcourt series (where she defend 1st place of 2006) she want to play FED CUP. But after MRI, doctors says that her knee injury is much worse and she must to miss that FED CUP match against Slovakia last week, Stanford next week and even San Diego in first week of august.


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THIS IS FACTS (nothing personal or irational from me)



Also about "SUPPORTING" players when you not play. In GM "Dule@" started one thread against Ana and i asked him - if he think (like bokash also) that in cases like this is normal for player which not play to travel and support rest of team from crowd (Kosice crowd = 4.999 Slovakians + 1 Ana Ivanovic) why other TOP2 player from they countries which not play last week FED CUP matches not travel with they team and supported they from crowd (Henin, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Safina, Na Li, Bartoli, Vaidisova...) and what kind of support you expect from her in her press statements... Like "Ana Timotic and Ana Jovanovic is about 500 place but they played like TOP300 - congrats girls"... or what???

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)

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I remember her words then. And i said she will "play" like Seles, it was obvious.
She played FC next year - so you wrong.

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Playing invitational exo paying 20K per match has nothing with representing her country. Just bad decision from her handlers and they corrected it next year. Her (and Nole's) price this year was too big for Hopman Cup. And its not like she was much better this year in Australia.
Playing HOPMAN CUP is 10X prestiges for some country than playing in Euro/Africa zone of FED CUP or play-off for World Group 2. Also Ana played for Serbia 6 matches in Hopman Cup (Novak too) - are you realy belive that organizers give Ana and Novak 120K+120K (20K per match) for that??? Jelena and Jimmy reach 45K+45K for slam win in mix doubles... Also she played in that matches against all TOP50 players (including TOP10 Kuznetsova) and for example JJ this season in Plovdiv and Kosice in all her FED CUP matches (singles and dubles) played only one match against TOP100 player (Cibulkova #76). So please dont undervalue her and Djokovic decision to represent our country at HC in 2006 instead have normal preparation for AO.

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Had she won she wouldnt need to play two hard matches. Its her own fault she went there like on vacation.
You complain against Ana "person" but you give so inhuman and cruel comment like this. She sacrifice whole her 2006 clay season in that day playing for our country - and thats your "thanks Ana". In both that matches she played against Peer, player with maybe best condition at WTA tour and that is reason why tired Ana last day lose both 3rd sets. Are you think that is Jelena fault that injury against Cibulkova (much worse player than Peer) because she dont won that match in straigh sets or before 3 hours of play? She played tired after Wimbledon and that is reason why she lose 2nd set with 6:1 or have big problems in 3rd against player like Cibulkova. Jelena in Kosice 2007 and Ana in Plovdiv 2006 played that hard matches for Serbia not for theyself and we dont have right to complain - its they fault because they played so hard matches.

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Mystery diary entry? She knew it all along.
No - she know that already after first physical in that monday and public that results of her site in tuesday, but because she want to verify again she drop out that. But when results two days after that is same she publish her decision to not play again but this time like definitive. Her injury is obviously more serious than Jelena's (JJ will play San Diego and Ana not).

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I didnt said once she should go there to sit on bench to show her support.
I have same right to say "we were so close", i had same contribution as her.
So what you want of her last week? To play with serious knee injury?

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she should stop whining how no one supported her when she was a kid. Or she should support today's kids. Works both ways.
support today kids!? What do you talking about? Jankovic, Lukic, Timotic and Jovanovic is all older than Ana! Or why you expecting of her to tell lies about conditions in Serbia in Milosevic era or in first years after his down?

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So, you are saying she will eventually play Fed Cup?
She still dont have 20 but already played for our country 7 FED CUP matches, 6 HOPMAN CUP matches and want represent Serbia at Olympic games. So, you are saying she will NEVER eventually play Fed Cup? Only because she not playing with dangerous knee injury last week?

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If you could follow media here you would see that her camp is very aware they made a mess and tried to clean it up. Piece on state TV news was laughable.
Before her Paris final media in Serbia much favor Jelena and Nole than Ana. Even have dirty campaign against her (even Serbian tennis asociation is been part of that). Whole world speaking about Ana in superlatives in last 3 YEARS and in Serbian media only in last MONTH - and you are already protest because that.

and I'm not even fan of Ana Ivanovic... just an objective observer who realize how perfect she is

AMAZING BELGRADE MIRACLE: In just three years (2008-2011) 5 different players born in same city reach world #1 in rankings and several GS titles and finals (WTA singles: Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic, ATP singles: Novak Djokovic, ATP doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Daniel Nestor... with notable performances of Bojana Jovanovski, Janko Tipsarevic and Viktor Troicki which is also all three born in Belgrade)
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she should stop whining how no one supported her when she was a kid.
Or she should support today's kids. Works both ways.
why should she? she is not serbian tennis federation. that's their job today like it was back then.

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So, you are saying she will eventually play Fed Cup?
perhaps. personally i don't care, remember?

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"BELLOW HER LEVEL". Downright arrogant towards players playing that event. They are not successful like her but those words i would expect
from someone like Pova/Ree.
arrogant or not it's true.

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For someone talking about tolerance all the time you sure dont respect
other people can have various motives for supporting her. I can like her FH but i also can say about things i dont like.
JJ and Novak do more than Ana. Am i alowed to praise them for that?
of course you can. that's what i'm saying - you can feel happy and greatful about players who are doing their patriotic duty that apparently means so much to you, but you should not criticise those who supposedly don't, especially given the circumstances (injuries and all that).

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If you could follow media here you would see that her camp is very
aware they made a mess and tried to clean it up. Piece on state TV news
was laughable.
are you saying the serbian media are no less patriotic now even though milosevic has gone? they did not make a mess even though serbians may think so. perhaps she should switch her citizenship to a country where people are less anal about the fed cup?
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