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We need to finalize rules for this potential Suicide doubles game. Any ideas? You seem very eager to have such a game. Come up with the foundation.
Well, we need to make Ranking Points, And someone who could make the Rankings() I think it would be the "Game of Upsets" Because of Super-TB and There are also sometimes 1-2 Doubles Matches/Day so it will be very tough to win.

I was also thinking About Playing Suicide at 75K Denain for the one's who are out of USO Open after the 1st Week? ( Just Following TT )
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Re: The Suicide Locker Room.

I also wanted some clarification about BUs. Two people have complained about my choice of back-ups as they were the opponents of my main pick, and I was wondering if there was a specific rule on that? In The Zone said it was fine but I was wondering if that could be clarified in the rules or some mention was made either way, something.
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I also wanted some clarification about BUs. Two people have complained about my choice of back-ups as they were the opponents of my main pick, and I was wondering if there was a specific rule on that? In The Zone said it was fine but I was wondering if that could be clarified in the rules or some mention was made either way, something.
I actually misinformed you. I thought I could have sworn an instance where someone withdrew and someone who took the opponent who received the walkover was given a victory. Apparently, this was not the case. If Hantuchova is playing Dementieva, and Hantuchova withdraws, the people who chose Dementieva as a pick will not count and their backup will be used. So as I know, you do your pick's opponent but now, this would not work. Sorry for the confusion. I could have sworn I saw this used but apparently I was wrong.

Walkovers do not count in any form. Whether it be for you or against you.
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Wait, so...

if I had picked Dementieva for Day04, and my BU was Hantuchova, since Hantuchova retired my pick would be rendered obsolete? If that's the case, that makes no sense, Dementieva still won. It's like not counting her victory over Hantuchova as a real one. Now, if you meant that if someone chose Hantuchova and had Dementieva as a BU...then I'd understand.

I'm mildly confused.
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Wait, so...

if I had picked Dementieva for Day04, and my BU was Hantuchova, since Hantuchova retired my pick would be rendered obsolete? If that's the case, that makes no sense, Dementieva still won. It's like not counting her victory over Hantuchova as a real one. Now, if you meant that if someone chose Hantuchova and had Dementieva as a BU...then I'd understand.

I'm mildly confused.
Retirements do count as completed matches, your BU is used ONLY if a player withdraws from the tournament OR gives a WO. You're through to day 5 with Dementieva. Though you're BU pick was wrong, since in case of a WO, you'd be put without a pick Dementieva-Hantuchova match picks wouldnt count at all
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Re: The Suicide Locker Room.

I would like to see Suicide FED CUP. Any ideas on how to run it? The old setup for Suicide Fed Cup was not successful.
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I would like to see Suicide FED CUP. Any ideas on how to run it? The old setup for Suicide Fed Cup was not successful.
How was it before? I think an amount of players must represent the countries, and the Captain must make a pick in colaboration with the team, and if the pick of a team is wrong, they lose
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Re: The Suicide Locker Room.

What about something like...

A certain amount of countries having a Fed Cup Squad (like 4 players) and each player PMing 1 player each day from the Fed Cup OOP... and whichever team has the most survivors moves on to the next round (or better TB if the case may be)
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What about something like...

A certain amount of countries having a Fed Cup Squad (like 4 players) and each player PMing 1 player each day from the Fed Cup OOP... and whichever team has the most survivors moves on to the next round (or better TB if the case may be)
The problem with that is you will very likely end up with a lot of ties. We could also do it like real fed cup style in that you are scheduled to face a certain player. Say Canada VS USA

Me and you are scheduled as the first singles match for our respective countries. We would each have to send a PM to the manager of the fed cup thread.

Now I was thinking we could do this in one of two ways. The first being, the manager of fed cup will pick 5 matches that each player would have to make a pick from. The manager will also chose in which order the picks will be used.

For example:
1) Dani vs Kim
2) Venus vs Patty
3) Maria vs Peng
4) Serena vs Martina
5) Nadia vs Na

So each player must pick a winner for each match. The way the winner of the match will be decided will be whoever survives the longest. If we both get match one correct, we go to match 2, if I picked wrong and died, and you correctly picked you would win the tie for USA even if the rest of your picks were wrong.

The second option would be, instead of having the manager pick 5 matches, each player could chose their own 5 matches and PM the manager in the order in which they want to be used.
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Re: The Suicide Locker Room.

I have a question!

When you count up total games lost, do the matches lost count towards their total?

Example:

2 players left, both lose on day 6
before day 6:
Player A: 20 games lost
Player B: 25 games lost

Day 06:
Player A: player loses, loses 18 games
Player B: player loses, loses 12 games

New totals:
Player A: 38
Player B: 37

If the games lost from match lost counts, Player B would win. IF you don't o**** the match lost towards game total, Player A would win.


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I have a question!

When you count up total games lost, do the matches lost count towards their total?

Example:

2 players left, both lose on day 6
before day 6:
Player A: 20 games lost
Player B: 25 games lost

Day 06:
Player A: player loses, loses 18 games
Player B: player loses, loses 12 games

New totals:
Player A: 38
Player B: 37

If the games lost from match lost counts, Player B would win. IF you don't o**** the match lost towards game total, Player A would win.

Yes unfortunately they do count. I still think this rule is terrible, because player A made a closer match then player B, yet the person that picked player B wins.
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Yes unfortunately they do count. I still think this rule is terrible, because player A made a closer match then player B, yet the person that picked player B wins.
When something similar happened at Palermo, when everyone lost Day 1, I used my own discretion and gave runnerup to the most who WON the most games because only one person made Day 2 and I needed a runnerup. Someone picking someone who loses 6-0, 6-0 shouldn't get it over someone who loses 6-7, 7-6, 7-6. I think this rule needs to be changed where if a losing pick needs to be counted to determine a winner, these matches do not count but only if tied after the other picks. From there, whoever won more games wins.
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Yes unfortunately they do count. I still think this rule is terrible, because player A made a closer match then player B, yet the person that picked player B wins.
My biggest problem with the rule is when someone doesn't make a pick.

Player A and B are the only 2 left on DAY03... so Player A picks a player and she loses 12 games. player B fails to make a pick, so he oges down as losing 0? Is it right that he would still have fewer games lost? or does he lose because he didn't make a pick?

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My biggest problem with the rule is when someone doesn't make a pick.

Player A and B are the only 2 left on DAY03... so Player A picks a player and she loses 12 games. player B fails to make a pick, so he oges down as losing 0? Is it right that he would still have fewer games lost? or does he lose because he didn't make a pick?
He would lose for making no such pick.
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Re: The Suicide Locker Room.

Guyz, I have a problem .. Chris84 and HenryMag have made the same picks throughout the whole week, there are 2 dif in their BUs .. I haevnt really followed the discussions ehre during the last months, so I count the nr of games lost by BU Picks or the one who posted 1st wins?
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