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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old Feb 25th, 2003, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Martina Hingis!

Well, she has retired.

Seriously though, she was never a favourite of mine when she was playing, because she was such a smarty pants. But I thought that her style of play was pretty incredible. She had all the shots, and could play from the baseline and the net. In fact, I think she had the most incredible net skills since Zvereva.

Despite some of the unkind comments from Williams fans in GM, I in no way think that she was a transition number 1 between Steffi and the Williams. She was pretty dominant between 97-99, and even though she went slamless in 2000, I think she was pretty feared up to the end middle of 2001.

I feel that her demise was mainly due to her smugness in relation to her dominance over the rest of the tour. She had it all at a very young age. This meant that there was not the motivation to continually improve her game...to beef up that serve, to put more into that forehand. I also think that a lot of her decision to retire is that she has been used to being the best all her life, and can't settle for not being the best. She may also be enjoying life without tennis.

Whatever the reason maybe the decision is the best she's ever made. Maybe after a period, she'll miss the game so much that she'll want to come back on her own terms. Chris Evert did it in 1980.

I didn't want to post this thread in GM becuase it couldn't bear it degenerating between Hingis and Williams fans.

At 22, it would be such a shame if the fat lady has sung. Even so, she has accomplished so much in such a short time, not only in singles but also doubles.

Her titantic battles with Venus could have turned out to be a rivalry to match Evert- Navratliova, Graf-Seles.

I wanted to post this thread as someone who was not a fan, but someone who warmed to Martina later in her career, and appreciated how beautifully she played the game, and admired her achievements.

I hope on the list of the greatest ever, she won't forever, be marked with an * like Connelly, Austin, and Seles.

What are your thoughts on Hingis?
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Re: Martina Hingis!

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I wanted to post this thread as someone who was not a fan, but someone who warmed to Martina later in her career, and appreciated how beautifully she played the game, and admired her achievements.
I feel the same. I miss her quite a bit, but never really rooted for her until this past summer when she came back. She was really the 90's Chris Evert for me. I hated Chris during the 70's as she dominated, but I loved watching her play because I always had a villian to root against. When Martina N began dominating in 1983, Chris became my sentimental favorite and I realized how much I loved her graceful game and style. I went through this with Steffi in 1998.

I had never rooted for Hingis until her comeback after Wimbledon 2002. Suddenly I realized how much I missed her and how lovely her game really was...what drama/contrast/spice she added to the somewhat monotonous mix. Her anticipation was pure genious. At the US Open I was hoping she would pull a Chrissie and surprise everyone the way Evert did it in 1980.

I hope most of her problem is mental and she is able to physically comeback. Tennis needs her right now. I really want her back! I hope we can move this thread to GM after a while cause she won't qualify for the BFTP forum!!!
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I was really hoping this thread would never have to be posted, but oh well.



It's nice to see people who appreciate Hingis' gmae and not neccesarily her personality having nice things to say about her. I'll be posting here now more often.
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Like others, I didn't realy like her in '97 and '98, because i found her too arrogant, but her game was a joy to watch. She made it look so easy that you thought you could pick up tennis and become a world class player in a year...(her opponents looked dumb, BTW). She seemed to know which shot her opponent was going to hit before she even thought about it...

I really hope she comes back, because not only she's a great player but she's also an inspiration for medium-sized players who cannot rely on power but on out-thinking the rivals.
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The main reason why I wish she would come back is contained in Mark's and Gandalf's posts. There is such little variety between the games of the top players......... Serena, Venus, Lindsay, JCap, Cljisters etc are all very similar type players.

After rewatching matches from the past, when players of contrasting styles are pitted against each other, I realised how much I missed the presence of true all court and serve and volly players at the highest level.

This is what Martina Hingis offered. Her matches against the power hitters, especially her battles against Vensu were sometimes breath-taking.

Let's pray that somehwere in the world there is an exceptional 14 year old girl who is a serve and vollyer who looks like a future top 5 player............
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but martina was not a serve and volleyer

I don't think she retired officially though, she might be back again before the french open.

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It's quite confusing, granted. There was an article in this month's UK tennis magazine where she is quoted as saying that she has no desire to come back, and that as far as she is concerned, she has retired. But then you get other reports that she is only taking a break....confusing!
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GO MARTINA HINGIS!!!!!!!!
Myskina, kirilenko, chakvetadze. Douchevina, Petrova, Clijsters, Zvonareva, Dementieva, Vaidiosava, Voskoboeva, !!!!!

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Well Martina could very well rewrite tennis history IMO if she came back determined and healthy. I thought it was an interesting quote I read somewhere that she was noticably slower the last couple of years due to her feet.

LOL@Irma. No, Marti was never a serve and volleyer, that's true, but it's such a sad comment on the lack of variety in today's play that we can say she had a unique playing style.

It will always be my firm belief that Hingis was never the same after losing to Graf in the 1999 French Open. All credit to Steffi for winning what was a glorious bitch match (they couldn't stand each other-which made it fun-but after the shock Hingis never recovered. The Graf match got into her head and later close defeats to Venus at the 2000 US Open and Capriati in those two Aussie finals jusr got progressively worse. Hey, I'm a Capriati fan, but the Hingis of 1998-9 would have won the 2002 Aussie final in straight sets.

History will probably say the power hitters drove her off the court later on, but with an effort I think she could have (and still could) win slams. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Until then I miss the "Swiss Miss". Here's hoping she comes done from her Alps retreat and gives us a little sunshine and a lot of bitchy "chucky" attitude!
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GO MARTINA HINGIS!!!!!!!!
Myskina, kirilenko, chakvetadze. Douchevina, Petrova, Clijsters, Zvonareva, Dementieva, Vaidiosava, Voskoboeva, !!!!!

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The overused terms 'child prodigy' and 'athletic genius' are accurate for once in reviewing the career of Martina Hingis.
To my mind she is/was the most complete player to have yet played this sport.

At her best, she had an ability to toy with the finest players of her era. In addition to her control of every shot imaginable she seemed to have a sixth sense of timing and shot selection.

I recognise that some found her to be a grating pesonality but remember that she has had to grow up in public. I found her honesty to be a refreshing change.

Hopefully she will be able to return to the pro circuit after a full physical recuperation and a well earned time away from the scrutiny that accompanies being at the top of your profession.

Nevertheless, even if her career is prematurely over I think her precocious accomplishments have earned her a place alongside the finest players in history.

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Rollo, and Roscoe, I agree completely with your posts. I know Hingis fans would never admit how much that loss to graf hurt Hingis. I also think that she was never the same.

BTW, I never meant that Hingis was a serve volleyer. I was meaning that I hope that 1 or more serve volleyers come onto the scene to break up the monotony at the moment.........

P.S Daniel, those smileys are really annoying. If you're such a big Martina fan, why don't you share some of your memories/thoughts...........
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I am not sure she was never the same. I saw parts of her match against venus in san diego 99 and she played great very aggressive

at the us open that year she was just overpowered (as she was in key biscane too)

I think the real match that hurt her career was australia 2001 against Cappy. a player she had never lost before, she had just beaten Serena and Venus in a row and then she was totally outplayed

after that match things went really bad and she looked unmotivated too. at the french open semi that year I wanted to step in my tv and slap her because she didn't even try!

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Martina is the best!!!!!!



Viva Martina


GO MARTINA HINGIS!!!!!!!!
Myskina, kirilenko, chakvetadze. Douchevina, Petrova, Clijsters, Zvonareva, Dementieva, Vaidiosava, Voskoboeva, !!!!!

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Martina Hingis is the best!!!!!!!!!!




GO MARTINA HINGIS!!!!!!!!
Myskina, kirilenko, chakvetadze. Douchevina, Petrova, Clijsters, Zvonareva, Dementieva, Vaidiosava, Voskoboeva, !!!!!

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