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Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?

Angus - you sound very disturbed, mate. Please get yourself some professional help.

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Angus - you sound very disturbed, mate. Please get yourself some professional help.
I didn't know this compatriot( Angus ),but he's very one-sided and not objective.Fortunately we meet on this forum some open-minded Steffi's fan like Irma and RKM for example .
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It was not that simple really. Seles had the clear edge over Graf in Slam finals from 1990-1993, while Graf had the edge in the smaller tourneys I guess. In 1991/1992 Seles lost to Sabatini twice and to Sanchez at least once.

In Slams though (bar Wimbledon), Seles had the edge over pretty much anyone from 1991 on until the ending of her first career.
I was talking about h2h's where Seles didn't have a clear dominance. Their h2h during 90-93 was 5-4.
Seles won two matches in 1990 while the h2h during 91-93 was on Graf's favor 3-2. I also said that Seles was beating everyone else which also could be related somwhow with your point about Monica winning all the important tourneys.
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It was not that simple really. Seles had the clear edge over Graf in Slam finals from 1990-1993, while Graf had the edge in the smaller tourneys I guess. In 1991/1992 Seles lost to Sabatini twice and to Sanchez at least once.

In Slams though (bar Wimbledon), Seles had the edge over pretty much anyone from 1991 on until the ending of her first career.
Sabatini led Graf 7-1 in head to head matches between 1990 and 1992 GOATini, not Seles, the only one responsable for Graf´s "slump"

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Sabatini led Graf 7-1 in head to head matches between 1990 and 1992 GOATini, not Seles, the only one responsable for Graf´s "slump"

At least you're funny.

It is also possible that when Seles beat Graf the first few times, in Berlin and RG `90, Graf got demoralized by Seles so she started losing to the likes of Sabatini and Sanchez while Seles at that time always had the mental edge at the big tourneys over her competitors.
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Sabatini led Graf 7-1 in head to head matches between 1990 and 1992 GOATini, not Seles, the only one responsable for Graf´s "slump"
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My patience with some posters in this thread is finished

Please read post 64 everyone. I shall ban the next deliberately inflammatory person from the Blast and pursue that ban across the board if he or she continues to try and disrupt this thread. Junior posters in particular should be careful.

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Please post this in the related thread-thank you

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Well, Gaby always has nice things to say about Steffi and I trust her.
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Well said Pat. I find it hilarious that over the years Ive heard many grafanatics go on about how Monica should have been back on tour a month or two after the stabbing because the wound was 'superficial' and that her absence shouldnt be held against Steffi
It shouldn't and (believe it or not) it isn't held against Steffi.

Of course, in the alternate Selestial parallel universe, Steffi is probably personally guilty of the stabbing herself - the stabber was supposedly merely executing her explicit orders, right? Wrong! Outside your upside down twisted alternate universe the stabbing is 0% Steffi's own fault.
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Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?

Simple. Without personal problems and bad back, Steffi would have at least 25 slams right now, while Seles would 5 or less.
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Re: How was Steffi Graf career in early 90s,if she had no dad scandal in 1990 ?

What if Graf had never existed?
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