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Andre and Steffi Visit Lynchburg for Virginia 10 miler

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Thank you all for the news and pics!

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Although they've won world aclaim as tennis players, the celebrity couple says they don't consider themselves runners.

"At one point few years ago, we were talking about could I do it? One day, I would have liked to run a marathon, but physically I'm not there anymore," says Graf.

Agassi politely disagreed with his wife.

"To say she can run is an understatement," says Agassi. "I know she can run, I've been chasing her my whole life."
how sweet!

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Video link for the same event.
http://www2.newsadvance.com/news/201...nts-ar-524505/
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I can't rememeber if someone here already talked about it (I think actually), but the LIFE website is just amazing, I've had a brief look at it yesterday and already saw some really great (Steffi) pictures
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Yes, there are some very nice pictures, posted links to few of them in her photo volume sometime back.
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I can't rememeber if someone here already talked about it (I think actually), but the LIFE website is just amazing, I've had a brief look at it yesterday and already saw some really great (Steffi) pictures
I haven't seen that, can you post the link, please?
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I haven't seen that, can you post the link, please?
http://www.life.com/
just type her name in the search bar
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http://www.life.com/
just type her name in the search bar
Thanks Djul, great site and great pics.
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Critic (from 1998):Tennis player Steffi Graf says she quit the Roman Catholic Church for "personal reasons." But others say that she could have been one of the thousands of Germans who have left their churches to save on taxes. Since the days of the Weimar Republic, Germany has collected a tax from members of organized religion to fund those churches. Only members of unrecognized faiths, such as Islam or Scientology, are exempt. The tax is now 8 percent or 9 percent of a person's income. But those who aren't members of a church don't have to pay, prompting many to leave their churches.

Real fact and answer:
Peter Bodo(Tennis Magazine Interview in 2000) : Do you believe in God?
Steffi Graf:Yes.I pray every night.But I did have a disillusioning experience when I was 18.One of my sponsors gave the (Catholic) church a car so they could get an audience with the Pope.So we went to the Vatican.They put all the people who were going to meet the pope in different rooms,and he went from one of them to the other,reading words off a piece of paper.
There was nothing about religion coming across,other than how much the church appreciated the donation and how important it was for the church and business to work together.I was surprised and I was disappointed
;I expected something coming from the heart.

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Critic (from 1998):Tennis player Steffi Graf says she quit the Roman Catholic Church for "personal reasons." But others say that she could have been one of the thousands of Germans who have left their churches to save on taxes. Since the days of the Weimar Republic, Germany has collected a tax from members of organized religion to fund those churches. Only members of unrecognized faiths, such as Islam or Scientology, are exempt. The tax is now 8 percent or 9 percent of a person's income. But those who aren't members of a church don't have to pay, prompting many to leave their churches.

Real fact and answer:
Peter Bodo(Tennis Magazine Interview in 2000) : Do you believe in God?
Steffi Graf:Yes.I pray every night.But I did have a disillusioning experience when I was 18.One of my sponsors gave the (Catholic) church a car so they could get an audience with the Pope.So we went to the Vatican.They put all the people who were going to meet the pope in different rooms,and he went from one of them to the other,reading words off a piece of paper.
There was nothing about religion coming across,other than how much the church appreciated the donation and how important it was for the church and business to work together.I was surprised and I was disappointed
;I expected something coming from the heart.
Thanks a lot for THAT post, RKM!

It sums her up perfectly I think.
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Critic (from 1998):Tennis player Steffi Graf says she quit the Roman Catholic Church for "personal reasons." But others say that she could have been one of the thousands of Germans who have left their churches to save on taxes. Since the days of the Weimar Republic, Germany has collected a tax from members of organized religion to fund those churches. Only members of unrecognized faiths, such as Islam or Scientology, are exempt. The tax is now 8 percent or 9 percent of a person's income. But those who aren't members of a church don't have to pay, prompting many to leave their churches.

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Bad job on researching information. The church tax is 8% or 9% of the income tax, not of the income. And people with high income have several ways to reduce their church tax debt significantly, down to 2-3% of the income tax.
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I've found it amazing (years ago, while at school, I was young, innocent and everything you know) to hear that actually a church tax does exist in Germany and quite all the sandinavian countries.
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Thanks a lot for THAT post, RKM!

It sums her up perfectly I think.
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Bad job on researching information. The church tax is 8% or 9% of the income tax, not of the income. And people with high income have several ways to reduce their church tax debt significantly, down to 2-3% of the income tax.
Ok,i just copied that text form this link:http://reason.com/archives/1998/02/01/brickbats
and offcourse it doesn't matter.Thanks for inform that error.

BTW, i completed my MBA and i have an exam tomorrow,i just came here in relaxation and i remember how Steffi commits for her tennis matches and for everything she do. I want to crack tommorows exam.

Have a nice sleep,Bye.

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"She let her racket do the talking. I've always looked up to her and the way she approached the game" : Pete Sampras
"In my opinion she 's the best lady that has ever played" : Andre Agassi
"She's one of the greatest players, maybe even greatest" : Richard Krajicek
"Steffi is the best all around player of all-time, regardless of surfaces" : Martina Navratilova
"Steffi is definitely the greatest singles player ever" : Billie Jean King
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Ok,i just copied that text form this link:http://reason.com/archives/1998/02/01/brickbats
and offcourse it doesn't matter.Thanks for inform that error.

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It was quite obvious that it was not your own text and your own thoughts and that you were quoting someone, don't worry!

But I'm not sure if the error really doesn't matter. The purpose of the article obviously is to make Steffi look greedy, and that "error" (if it really is one, I suspect intention here) seems to serve this purpose very well.

First of all, the author knows very well the historical background of the German church tax ("Since the days of the Weimar Republic") and other facts ("Only members of unrecognized faiths, such as Islam or Scientology, are exempt." ... "8 percent or 9 percent") ... but when it comes to the basic but important fact that the church tax depends on the income tax and not on the income, he suddenly makes such a blatant error?? Well, it could be of course, but I find it hard to believe.

Given Steffi's income range, "8 percent or 9 percent of the income" really would be much money. But things are different, and as I said people with high and very high income have several options to reduce their church tax debt drastically, which puts things into perspective. Rich people don't have to pay much money on church taxes if they don't want.
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BTW, i completed my MBA and i have an exam tomorrow,i just came here in relaxation and i remember how Steffi commits for her tennis matches and for everything she do. I want to crack tommorows exam.

Have a nice sleep,Bye.
Exams? On a Sunday???

Well, BEST OF LUCK then!
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