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Hi Julie, you are always resoucerful
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After how long and exhausting the first book tour was, wouldn't expect him to delibrately do it unless it is a part of the contract.
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Not sure about the resourceful. Did ponder the difference between reading something on twitter and repeating it? (I did, for instance, see a hilarious post on the fb site of someone who isn't observant enough about fb's failure to automatically provide limitations on who can see posts that I have resisted repeating. Is twitter in that category?)
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You are asking the wrong person, I am really bad at social media networking.
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From the SI website, they compiled some quotes from players autobiographies :

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Passing Shots: Pam Shriver on Tour, by Pam Shriver, Frank Deford and Susan Adams
Page 127: "I'm lucky I played Steffi Graf on grass. It's her worst surface, and she didn't serve and volley at all. Today Mr. Graf was sitting right behind the linesman, and when he called one of Steffi's passing shots out, Mr. Graf started yelling 'No, no, no' right in the poor guy's ear. So I turned to him and yelled, 'Shut up!' and he did. There wasn't a peep out of him the rest of the match."
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Passing Shots: Pam Shriver on Tour, by Pam Shriver, Frank Deford and Susan Adams
Page 127: "I'm lucky I played Steffi Graf on grass. It's her worst surface, and she didn't serve and volley at all. Today Mr. Graf was sitting right behind the linesman, and when he called one of Steffi's passing shots out, Mr. Graf started yelling 'No, no, no' right in the poor guy's ear. So I turned to him and yelled, 'Shut up!' and he did. There wasn't a peep out of him the rest of the match."
Interesting to see that at that time, it was viewed that Steffi's worst surface was grass. My how she turned things around
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I raed that too. Pam looked to childish mentioning it in her biography, she cannot beat Steffi in tennis or find faults with her, so bring her father into picture.
Another thing that struck me is that all the top female players from past to present (may be not in order): Viginia Wade, Margaret Court, BJK ,Martina, Evert, Seles and Serena (cream of the WTA in whichever order you list them) have their autobiographies, the only person missing is Steffi and she will always be missing in that list.
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Yah, I wouldn't hold my breath for a Steffi autobiography either
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I raed that too. Pam looked to childish mentioning it in her biography, she cannot beat Steffi in tennis or find faults with her, so bring her father into picture.
Another thing that struck me is that all the top female players from past to present (may be not in order): Viginia Wade, Margaret Court, BJK ,Martina, Evert, Seles and Serena (cream of the WTA in whichever order you list them) have their autobiographies, the only person missing is Steffi and she will always be missing in that list.
Maybe she's too busy on living her life. I noticed that the majority of american famous athletes write autobiographies, it must be on their contracts. I doubt they're all worthed to be read. The Agassi's one was good though, but I felt he should have need at least other four of five volums to tell his story.
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Not sure if any of ypu watched this clip before, an exhibition match between Kimiko Date and Steffi in 2008, notice at the end how Steffi and Kimiko are busy talking that they did not even notice the chair umpire being blocked from getting down. Steffi looks very relaxed in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enou4OwEO8k
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Not sure if any of ypu watched this clip before, an exhibition match between Kimiko Date and Steffi in 2008, notice at the end how Steffi and Kimiko are busy talking that they did not even notice the chair umpire being blocked from getting down. Steffi looks very relaxed in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enou4OwEO8k
Yes, I've seen that clip before, but thanks for posting it all the same. Kimiko and Steffi both appear at ease in the video, and as you say, completely relaxed. Of course, it's just an exhibition. I'm dead certain things were much more tense when Kimiko upset Steffi back in the late '90's.

Speaking of tense, have you seen the video at the end of Steffi's match against Sabatini from the '91 Tokyo Final?. When they approach the net at the end of the match, Steffi barely shakes Sabatini's hand. I can understand Steffi being angry after losing to Sabatini, but I didn't really care for Steffi's attitude following that match. And that's coming from a big Steffi fan. Has anyone out there seen this particular video?. Any comments?.
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Hi Mike, yeah we've actually talked about that "handshake" incident with Sabatini here before (I dug up the vid on youtube and put it up here). I think the general consensus is that while Steffi had her moments of unsportsmanship, in general she still conducted herself quite well for most of her career (she's had some bad losses where she remained very sportsmanlike after - I think some of her worst losses were in the French Open but she wasn't a sore loser in those matches).

She's had her bad days, but as some folks here have said, she's only been less-than-perfect in a few handshakes but she doesn't do that to diss her opponent or to disrespect them, and she doesn't speak ill of her opponents in post-match interviews.
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Hi Mike, yeah we've actually talked about that "handshake" incident with Sabatini here before (I dug up the vid on youtube and put it up here). I think the general consensus is that while Steffi had her moments of unsportsmanship, in general she still conducted herself quite well for most of her career (she's had some bad losses where she remained very sportsmanlike after - I think some of her worst losses were in the French Open but she wasn't a sore loser in those matches).

She's had her bad days, but as some folks here have said, she's only been less-than-perfect in a few handshakes but she doesn't do that to diss her opponent or to disrespect them, and she doesn't speak ill of her opponents in post-match interviews.
Hi XTN,

I wasn't aware Steffi's handshake incident with Gabriela Sabatini had previously been discussed here, so thanks for letting me know. But I agree with you, for the most Steffi conducted herself with class and dignity. And as you stated, she never spoke badly about her opponents in post match interviews. In addition, Steffi never, ever tried to show her opponent up on court.

There was another incident involving Sabatini that occured in early 1991. Steffi was struggling with Sabatini at the time, and Sabatini had just defeated Steffi in the finals of a Florida tournament. After the match, Sabatini said Steffi was losing the confidence to be the number one ranked player. Do you recall this?. It was an odd statement from Sabatini, considering she never attained the number one ranking in the first place. In any event, I thought Sabatini's comment was in poor taste, and should not have been made. But what are your thoughts?. Steffi got the last laugh anyway, disposing of Sabatini later that year in the Wimbledon Final. From what I've heard, Steffi and Sabatini have become very good friends in recent years. Is this true?.

I'm a little hazy on the details, but didn't Steffi show complete class and grace toward Jana Novotna after the 1993 Wimbledon Final?. Steffi knew Jana was hurting, after Jana self destructed in the 3rd set. We all know Jana was being consoled by the duchess, but didn't Steffi also have some comforting words for Jana after the match?. Do you have any knowledge about that, XTN?.

Also, didn't Jana participate in Steffi's farewell tour in 1999?. I can't remember for sure, but if Jana was there, it was a nice gesture on her part returning the favor to Steffi after Wimbledon '93. Speaking about Jana, is she on a friendly basis with Steffi?. I believe Steffi played Jana and Sabatini a few years ago in exhibition matches. Can you confirm this?. From what I remember, Steffi beat Sabatini handily in an exhibition played in Germany?. But I can't recall what happened regarding Steffi's exhibition against Jana?.

Coming from a fellow Steffi fan, I would certainly appreciate any light you could shed on these questions, and I thank you for your time.

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Mike LOL I don't think I have the expertise to provide insight on all the questions you ask and so maybe some other Steffi fans can jump in to share their input. But I'll try to share my own thoughts:

re: Sabatini saying Steffi was losing confidence, I personally don't think it was meant to diss Steffi. I think it was just a fair assessmnet of Graf's game. Tennis fans were surely thinking and discussing Steffi's slump in the early 90s. I find it to be a similar comment given by someone who wins a match against an opponent who played poorly - sometimes you hear winning players say their opponents didn't play well and they were able to capitalize. I don't it's meant to disrespect the opponent.

re: Jana being consoled by Steffi after Wimbledon 93, I am not certain but I vaguely recall reading or hearing Steffi say something about feeling bad for Jana because she could understand what Jana must've been going through to lose like that. I wouldn't be surprised if Steffi tried to offer Jana some consolation, but probably not a lot either because I am sure Jana wouldn't have wanted to get the consolation from the person who defeated her, and I'm sure Steffi knew that.

re: Jana in Steffi's tour, I am not sure. I know that Steffi played some matches against Kimiko Date in Japan (I was lucky enough to watch one of their exhibition matches - it was played after the singles and doubles finals in the Toray Pan Pacific Open!). Steffi also played Jelena Dokic in New Zealand. Maybe someone else can offer more info on other exhibitions Steffi played.

re: the relationship between Steffi and Jana, I have no idea either. But I don't think there is any bad blood between the two of them and I would guess that if they ran into each other, there would be good words shared between them.
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