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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Sep 16th, 2004, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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How much money do coaches get?

It'd be interesting for me to know how much our girls pay to their coaches. I guess there should be some fixed wage plus some percent of prize money. Does anybody have some information?

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I don't have the answer Verba. But I hope the Russina's pay their coaches well. Elena Dementieva can pay her coach well because she wins and makes alot of money. But how can a player like Maria Kirilenko afford to pay her coach when she struggles to win matches on the WTA Tour? Maybe Maria's agency IMG is covering her coaching expenses.

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I don't have the answer Verba. But I hope the Russina's pay their coaches well. Elena Dementieva can pay her coach well because she wins and makes alot of money. But how can a player like Maria Kirilenko afford to pay her coach when she struggles to win matches on the WTA Tour? Maybe Maria's agency IMG is covering her coaching expenses.
the cat, I think it's hard to find a concrete answer. What I'm interested is a range of wages: e.g., is it like $100,000 in a year or $150,000 or something else? I don't also know who pays all the traveling expenses of a coach: coach, player or tournament organizers? I'm trying to get how this system works.

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Maybe Cool_Olga would know. She reports on tennis and gets close to the players. I would think an established coach would get a good salary and perhaps part of the prize money.

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It would be interesting to know the deal that Vera Zvonareva had/has with Julia Kashevarova. In addition to having her as a coach, Vera also lived with Julia and her daughter. For a top level player, I don't think that's the norm.

I wonder if Vera paid for her room and board by doing jobs around the house?

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Probably, some tennis fans are aware of the money deals with coaches. Waiting for their responses.

Epigone, I think Vera has/had very warm relations with Yulia. But this isn't a norm, of course, to live together with your coach. But.. isn't it convinient?

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I think it's 10% of the earnings... I remember seeing this number somewhere.

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I think it's 10% of the earnings... I remember seeing this number somewhere.
It is probably of prize money. But I guess there should be some fixed wage: imagine that a player loses in a first round at every tournament - then coach can't live on 10% of those money.

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I have read in one of Robert Lansdorp's articles that he says he only asks for $120 an hour to work with Maria
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I couldn't find anything about how much coaches of WTA Tour players are paid. However, I did find a few articles about ATP coaches. The problem is that ATP prizemoney is much higher, so I'm not sure how well the figures translate to pay for a coach on the WTA Tour. I guess what the articles do highlight is the different ways coaches are paid.

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Most of the players ranked in the top 100 have full-time coaches, whose salaries can run from expenses to a percentage of winnings. The average salary, according to those in the business, probably comes in around $50,000.
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...the coach gets a basic salary of several hundred thousand and a share, somewhere around 10% of the kitty in the majors, not to mention free travel and eats. Kuerten gave his guy a Mercedes a few years back.
This article http://www.tennis.com/ProGame/fullst...214&itype=1296 says that it costs ATP players outside the Top 50 $90000 ($60000+expenses) per year for a coach.

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Paradorn would want someone who has the experience of taking a top 15 player into the top five. Few coaches have that track record and those that do, don't come cheap. These select coaches charge an average of US$30,000-40,000 per week based on 25-30 weeks’ per year. US Open champion Andy Roddick’s coach, Brad Gilbert, reportedly receives US$50,000 per week, plus bonuses and injury clauses.

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Epigone, thank you so much... So much interesting information! Did I get it sorrectly that a player covers coach's traveling expenses?

OMG, Brad GIlbert...$50,000 a week. Does Andy pays his own money to Brad?


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I have read in one of Robert Lansdorp's articles that he says he only asks for $120 an hour to work with Maria
Thanks.

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The coach probably makes a deal with the player that involves a salary, and a percentage. Maybe a commission if she wins a certain level event.
It's probably varies depending on the player's level.

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The coach probably makes a deal with the player that involves a salary, and a percentage.
What is the approximate salary???????????

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me read from somewhere that it's usually 10%...+ travel expenses...
me thinks this is for normall coach..

but if they're popular like Brad Gilbert..
it must be much more..

butttttt from Epigone...$50,000 a week is damn eek..
me wonders how Roddick can afford it...
it's like almost 2 millions a yr..

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