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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Mar 24th, 2011, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
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Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

Does it count as a win for the one player, and a loss for the other player in their head to head records? I don't care if it's 1-0 in the first set, or retiring at 6-1 2-0 after being totally out-played, or calling it quits at 5-7 6-4 5-2. Do you think it should be, or not as one player (for one reason, or another) would, or could not finish playing
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Re: Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

Yes, every retirement counts for the H2H...W/O´s doesn´t
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Re: Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

Yes, retirements does count in the official H2H records (here's an example).
Is it fair? Yes, I think so. There are matches where the retiring player could easily have played the match to the end (losing fair and square) but chooses not to for various reasons (health concerns, lack of motiviation, more important match coming up next week, etc.).

It's like that in all individual sports, like athletics, cycling, alpine skiing, etc. If an athlete crashes before the finish line, then he (or she) is out and someone else takes the victory!

Wozniacki once retired being up 7-5 5-0 against Anne Kremer (a much debated match at the time, being the subject for match-fixing investigations and more...). There's no doubt that Wozniacki would have won if she was fit, but now the match counts as a loss in Wozniacki's stats. Which is quite fair and reasonable IMO.
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Re: Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

- present top 50
- main draw matches since 97

Code:
                                      matches   ret.
Marion Bartoli				502	24
Nadia Petrova				598	20
Jelena Jankovic				536	16
Victoria Azarenka			279	14
Serena Williams				558	12
Anna Chakvetadze			303	11
Dominika Cibulkova			211	 7
Na Li					307	 7
Maria Kirilenko				357	 7
Vera Zvonareva				545	 7
Daniela Hantuchova			594	 7
Shuai Peng				274	 6
Caroline Wozniacki			310	 6
Kim Clijsters				551	 6
Francesca Schiavone			561	 6
Patty Schnyder				808	 6
Agnes Szavay				200	 5
Iveta Benesova				345	 5
Venus Williams				689	 5
Elena Vesnina				241	 4
Flavia Pennetta				486	 4
Yaroslava Shvedova			132	 3
Agnieszka Radwanska			269	 3
Lucie Safarova				269	 3
Ana Ivanovic				325	 3
Svetlana Kuznetsova			529	 3
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova		143	 2
Aravane Rezai				193	 2
Sara Errani				213	 2
Shahar Peer				361	 2
Maria Sharapova				429	 2
Andrea Petkovic				105	 1
Julia Goerges				112	 1
Lourdes Dominguez-Lino			156	 1
Kaia Kanepi				218	 1
Roberta Vinci				235	 1
Klara Zakopalova			331	 1
Samantha Stosur				333	 1
Anastasija Sevastova			 64	 0
Alexandra Dulgheru			 82	 0
Petra Kvitova				118	 0
Timea Bacsinszky			121	 0
Ekaterina Makarova			128	 0
Jarmila Groth				130	 0
Yanina Wickmayer			147	 0
Bethanie Mattek-Sands			152	 0
Maria-Jose Martinez Sanchez		157	 0
Alisa Kleybanova			166	 0
Tsvetana Pironkova			166	 0
Barbora Zahlavova Strycova		168	 0

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Re: Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

Since when did Stosur retire once?

MANDY MINELLA. PRISCILLA HON

CASEY DELLACQUA. JARMILA WOLFE. SAMANTHA STOSUR
QIANG WANG. SHILIN XU. AYUMI MORITA. NAO HIBINO
LESIA TSURENKO. ALIZÉ LIM. NAOMI OSAKA. JULIA GÖRGES.
OLIVIA TJANDRAMULIA. NAIKTHA BAINS. KIMBERLY BIRRELL.
KAROLINA PLISKOVA. LIZETTE CABRERA. DESTANEE AIAVA
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Re: Retiring In The Middle Of A Match........

^^ Ah, Memphis 2007 against Olaru

MANDY MINELLA. PRISCILLA HON

CASEY DELLACQUA. JARMILA WOLFE. SAMANTHA STOSUR
QIANG WANG. SHILIN XU. AYUMI MORITA. NAO HIBINO
LESIA TSURENKO. ALIZÉ LIM. NAOMI OSAKA. JULIA GÖRGES.
OLIVIA TJANDRAMULIA. NAIKTHA BAINS. KIMBERLY BIRRELL.
KAROLINA PLISKOVA. LIZETTE CABRERA. DESTANEE AIAVA
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