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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2003, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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Womens Tennis is Predictable and Boring

Just to get a few of the comment from the people out there that obviously like womens tennis (maybe better than mens), because after all you are on thsi website!

1. Womens tennis is predictable.
Just look at the quarterfinalists for Wimbledon:
Davenport, J. Capriati, V.Williams, S.Williams, J. Henin-Hardenne, K. Clijsters, S. Farina Elia and S. Kuznetsova.

Well done S. Kuznetsova for making to the quarters by being seeded 33. Mind you she hasn't defeated a seeded player yet. and also S. Farina Elia being seeded 27, perhaps the biggest upset in WTA history by defeating Rubin (7).

I mean seriously, by being predictable it is boring. Take a look at the "hot shots" that a lot of the TV stations play. The other day they had 12 hotshots, 11 of them from the ATP, 1 from the WTA and it was a complementory addition so as not to appear sexist.

Womens tennis is boring and predictable. How on earth they get even close to the amount that men get paid beats me.

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old Jul 1st, 2003, 11:52 AM
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Some of the comments are ture, there is a big gap between mens tennis and womens tennis in both technical and physical areas HOWEVER!!!!!!!!

Menís tennis is all about holding serve and breaking once or twice in a set. Watching mens tennis can be boring too, its always a fast serve to end a point or a fast serve to drive the receiver out of position and winning the point easily, we hardly see any long rallies like the womenís.
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WTA's ranking system keeps the best players on top. That's why there are few upsets.

Look at Pete Sampras. He hasn't played since the beginning of the year. He is now ranked in the 20s, 30s.
Compare that to Lindsay Davenport who, despite the fact that she missed 9 months of tennis last year, was still ranked in the top-10.

WTA has a very stable system. Just because you missed a tournament here and there or just because you lost early in 2 consecutive tournaments doesn't mean you no longer belong in the top-10.

ATP ranking is like a hot dog contest like someone said. whoever is the hotest dog at the moment leads the pack. You miss a couple of tournament and your ranking crumbles.
The guy who beat Hewitt at Wimbledon didn't even get any Quality Points. So in the ATP, it doesn't matter whether you beat the world #1 or the #300, you get the same amount of points. That sucks.

In the WTA, it's not easy to reach the top. You have to play consistent tennis for 52 weeks. And when you get there, it's not easy to drop to a low ranking. You have to lose consistently for 52 weeks.

I hope now you understand that WTA ranking system doesn't allowed wild swing, therefore, produces few upsets.
The best are on top, the rest is at the bottom.
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Why don't you look at the men's event too?

10 of the men in the Wimbledon round of 16 ARE ALL AMONG THE TOP 13 SEEDS.

Doesn't that seem similar?
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WTA's ranking system keeps the best players on top. That's why there are few upsets.

Look at Pete Sampras. He hasn't played since the beginning of the year. He is now ranked in the 20s, 30s.
Compare that to Lindsay Davenport who, despite the fact that she missed 9 months of tennis last year, was still ranked in the top-10.

WTA has a very stable system. Just because you missed a tournament here and there or just because you lost early in 2 consecutive tournaments doesn't mean you no longer belong in the top-10.

ATP ranking is like a hot dog contest like someone said. whoever is the hotest dog at the moment leads the pack. You miss a couple of tournament and your ranking crumbles.
The guy who beat Hewitt at Wimbledon didn't even get any Quality Points. So in the ATP, it doesn't matter whether you beat the world #1 or the #300, you get the same amount of points. That sucks.

In the WTA, it's not easy to reach the top. You have to play consistent tennis for 52 weeks. And when you get there, it's not easy to drop to a low ranking. You have to lose consistently for 52 weeks.

I hope now you understand that WTA ranking system doesn't allowed wild swing, therefore, produces few upsets.
The best are on top, the rest is at the bottom.
Thanks.

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This is stupid....it is so obvious there are more upsets in the mens game than womens. Right now in women's tennis, there are only four women who can win a grand slam,,,,S and V williams, Kim, Henin. I bet all the money in the world that (unless all are injuried) only those four will win GS in the next 3 years.

THE ODDS at the start of WIMBLEDON FROM www.eurobet.com

WOMEN
1st seed Serena Willams = 6/4
2nd seed Kim = 2/1
5th seed DAVENPORT = 7/1 lol


MENS
1st seed Lleyton HEWITT = 4/1
2nd seed Andre AGASSI = 5/1
5th seed Andy Roddick = 5/1
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This is stupid....


I've just quoted actual statistics.

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"This is stupid....it is so obvious there are more upsets in the mens game than womens."

You just displayed your ignorance.
Re-read my post. Did I say there were more upsets in the Women's game??? Read my last sentence.

"I hope now you understand that WTA ranking system doesn't allowed wild swing, therefore, produces few upsets. The best are on top, the rest is at the bottom."

Obviously you don't know how to make a point. LOL. Go back to school.

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also S. Farina Elia being seeded 27, perhaps the biggest upset in WTA history by defeating Rubin (7).
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I am a fan of women's tennis but have to agree with this statement. It is always the usual suspects there at week 2 of the slams, with one roughie thrown in.

As for there being any depth in the game, I don't really think so. In the ATP a player ranked 100 will regularly beat one of the top 20, not because the top player is having an off day, but because they have the ability. In WTA a player ranked 100 will be lucky to get a few games of a top 20 player.

I follow the results but don't bother watching women's tennis much anymore. Much prefer to watch the men's matches where anything can happen.
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All sports go through times when they seem relatively stable and predictable. It just so happens that at the moment the women's game is going through such a time whilst the men's game is going through more of a transitionary period with the old-guard still going and new people coming through. It hasn't always been like that and it won't always be like that in the future.

As for whether it's boring, well I suppose it depends where you want to look. I don't imagine that Justine H-H's fans, or Serena's fans, felt Justine winning the French Open was uninteresting. The crowd, whatever you might think of them, certainly didn't. And looking beyond the top 4 there have been lots of unexpected and interesting runs at Wimbledon: Pierce, Farina Elia, Suarez, Kapros, Sharapova, etc. Before that we've had Petrova's come back, Dementieva's first title, Sugiyama's double, etc, etc. They may not have a big impact on the rankings because of the way the rankings work, but they are still intersting and unpredictable events.
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I think there are a few logical reasons why WTA is so one sided compared to ATP.
Firstly there is probably more men playing tennis worldwide than females. I'm not just talking about western countries but everywhere. This means that there are more men to choose from and there is less likely to be amazing standouts like the williams and belgiums.

Secondly I don't have a clue why WTA have most of their tournaments with bye's in the first round, this only makes the difference that much bigger between the best and the rest. One can only fathom that it is because the top players won't play in the tournaments if they don't have a bye first up, who's running the show?

Have you seen the results to get into the semis? Wow Serena, Venus, Kim and Justine. who would have picked that!

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And if it wasn't for Anna Kournikova, half the world wouldn't really care about WTA tennis. I know that this will put a lot of sour grapes into you guys but you guys are avid tennis followers anyway.

A.K. put WTA tennis back on the map for those who are not huge tennis followers and starting showing the world that yes, womens tennis players can earn lots of money, comparable even to the men.

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