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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old Sep 10th, 2005, 03:42 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Your girl got screwed...

This is coming from a true blue Sharapova fan... I am more upset about what happened to Elena today than Maria losing, my only hope is that the Karma comes back to get Mary and Kim thrashes her, it would be criminal for Kim to come this close to her first GS title only to be stopped by that con-artist.

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old Sep 10th, 2005, 05:53 AM
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Yeah, what a shame.

I didn't see the match, but 12 minute injury break? How do they even get away with that? The rule is 3 minutes.

I have seen Mary play before, and her pace is really annoying. She likes to wipe both her legs, arms, face. Takes her full 25 secs between every point. That can really annoy your opponent. The commentators are always cringing every time they see her wasting time like that.

But based on Kim's interview, I think she's tough and won't let that bother her. Kim should win her first major.

In a way though, it's not all bad. I don't think she would have beaten Kim if she got through anyway. Kim is just so fast and accurate, and hard hitting. I just couldn't bear to see Elena lose a 3rd straight GS final... so in a way, I'm happy I won't have to.

I'm no fan of Kim, and now, even less a fan of Mary, so I don't care what happens tomorrow. I won't even have to bother getting up early to watch it.
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And if you watched the match, the commentator said , the only thing that she hadn't did is "take a warm café"...

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And if you watched the match, the commentator said , the only thing that she hadn't did is "take a warm café"...

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Well I am used to Lena getting screwed ,I wouldnt be suprised if the USTA asked Mary to do that ,just so the wouldnt have a Russian in the final ....

But seriously that time out was riddiculous ,almost 15 mins and Lena lost her flow and that was that ,thats why Mary did it ,no other reason ,she is an irratating ,sneaky bitch and I hope Kim sends her packing!

Lena needs to learn to handle these kind of things better and hopefully this will be good experience ,everyone hates playing Mary ,no wonder others have had a row with her ,and I look forward to the day she pisses off and retires ..

That stupid grin from Mary is irratating too! who the fuck does she think she is? gormeless cow!

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elena wasn't affected by mary's stalling
in the second set mary just played better than in the first and elena was making more errors
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oh she was effected by marys pissing about ,thats Lena's problem to deal with tho ,but typical Mary ,well lets hope Kim sends the stuck up poncy bitch back where seh belongs

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post #8 of 36 (permalink) Old Sep 10th, 2005, 12:13 PM
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Yeah I hope Kim wins. Kim is among my favorites, because she always plays fair and knows how to handle losing. Even Maria was a graceful loser yesterday.
I always prefer players who play fair and do not try to disturb their opponents and always play their heart out. James Blake is one of my faves as well for that reason.

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One key thing is that supposedly Mary didn't have much wrong with her. When she got back on the court, she was blasting away.. that is some miracle trainer they have at the USO.

When I listened to Mary's interview, she used two injury timeouts... What's strange is... I always thought the rule was, you only get 1 injury timeout per match, plus a second treatment during the next changeover. Since when can you take two injury timeouts?

Anyway, Pierce will know what it's like losing two GS finals in a season. I don't think Kim will choke tomorrow.

Whether Elena would have won, we can only postulate now, but for certain taking an injury timeout after your opponent makes a strong start against you, definately rattles the other player and takes away their momentum and rhythm. A very unsavoury tactic, that commentators mention a lot. Another disagreeable tactic is using it to treat cramps. Timeouts are for injuries, not cramps. Its your own problem if you aren't fit enough take the conditions. The rule should never have been changed to allow cramps treatment. It's unfair to your opponent.

Are timeout rules different for the men than it is for the women? Men get diagnosed, then 3 minutes to treat the injury, and during the next changeover (90 seconds) the trainer is allowed to reassess the injury, but can't hold up play. You only get one injury timeout per match.

For the women, apparently you get 3 minutes to diagnose the injury, then straightaway another 3 minutes to treat it... You can have two per match, and have it done back to back for 12 minutes.

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I think it was a timeout per injury (one for her back, the other for the thigh muscle), but still she abused the rules. No sportswoman of the year award for her I guess.

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I really wanted beautiful Elena to get into the finals, too. She adds more beauty to the court than Mary Pierce. I really do agree that I want Mary Pierce to lose. I know Clisters can beat her!! She has it!!
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is there a limit for the number of injury timeouts??
otherwise kim should take a book with her...perhaps "war and peace" or "ugly winning".

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post #13 of 36 (permalink) Old Sep 11th, 2005, 01:08 PM
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mary definitely paid the price for her doing. wonder was it the injury that cause her loss!
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She said the injury didn't affect her at all... she got past Mauresmo and Lena with it.

Sadly, there's no satisfaction to be had in this defeat, because she took it with class... She said nice things, and didn't look all that disappointed or hurt by the loss (other than having a dejected and slumping look in the chair after the match). She showed no signs of resentment or grudging, and didn't blame anything for the loss, gave credit to Kim.

I think it would have been different if the result was 6-0 6-0, or 0-6 7-5 7-6(9) for Kim. The defeat was 65 minutes long though. The record for a shortest women's final is 60 mins, so she avoided the record by 5 mins.

So I guess the only payback is a rematch with Lena. Though I'm not sure if Lena can beat her. She is playing very well, hitting the ball very hard, and she is an RG and USO finalist this year...
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mary definitely paid the price for her doing. wonder was it the injury that cause her loss!

clearly not, of what i've seen of the final Today, Mary was moving too well to have real injuries, i think i've read as well somewhere that she had to go to the lockerroom for 3 mins at a changeover, becuz the tape around her thigh was too tight!! , her plan didn't work this time...

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