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i know it's a bit early, but if u hv any comment on the 2005 schedule,
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on Oct 10 2005,
Moscow & Hasselt will be held
so lena has to choose a tourny to commit
You know, lena won 04 Hasselt and Moscow is hometown tourny
can't join both
Hopefully the damn WTA will change this later

And that week will be the most sucks for lena,
other tournies change a lot too but dun bring too much trouble to lena

http://www.wtatour.com/global/includ...urCalendar.pdf

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I think she has more points to defend at Moscow than Hasselt since it's a Tier I and she made the finals there. A shame though.
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Thanks ED for starting this thread , which is a good idea!!!!!

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I think Lena will choose Moscow over Hasselt, without a doubt.

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I think she has more points to defend at Moscow than Hasselt since it's a Tier I and she made the finals there. A shame though.
but y goldenlox do it JC Federer???

and btw how can i call u, call u as JC Federer each time??

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Hi... Just JCF will do.

Have you downloaded Top Spin yet?
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I'm downloadin top spin for pc, how is it?
I got Smash Court Tennis 2 for PS2 and created Lena myself.
Its really amazing. Is TS better?
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yes IMO it is!! If your PC up to scratch graphics are awesome and Me too has created my own Lena ,complete with mega pony tail and skimpy top!!

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I'm downloadin top spin for pc, how is it?
I got Smash Court Tennis 2 for PS2 and created Lena myself.
Its really amazing. Is TS better?
It's a fun game, but TS is not very realistic. The amount of spin you can put on the ball defies physics. You can hook the ball back almost 180 degrees, and you can take so much pace off the ball that you can run faster than it. Also what appears to be clearly a clean winner ends up very returnable for a counterpuncher. They can play some amazingly placed shots on the run at full stretch, with enormous pace.

So in other words, Smash Court simulates Tennis better. However, the points that you can construct in Top Spin are very very spectacular. I can beat the CPU on hard now. And each point looks like a hot shot they show on TV.

I don't recommend playing both at the same time though. After I adjusted to TS, when I went back to SCTPT2, I totally sucked.

But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...
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Smash Court Tennis has the worst graphics I've seen Virtua Tennis 2 is miles better...I hope they'll do a Virtua Tennis 3

Btw, where can I d/l Top Spin?!!
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It's a fun game, but TS is not very realistic. The amount of spin you can put on the ball defies physics. You can hook the ball back almost 180 degrees, and you can take so much pace off the ball that you can run faster than it. Also what appears to be clearly a clean winner ends up very returnable for a counterpuncher. They can play some amazingly placed shots on the run at full stretch, with enormous pace.

So in other words, Smash Court simulates Tennis better. However, the points that you can construct in Top Spin are very very spectacular. I can beat the CPU on hard now. And each point looks like a hot shot they show on TV.

I don't recommend playing both at the same time though. After I adjusted to TS, when I went back to SCTPT2, I totally sucked.

But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...
Thanks a lot
I always prefer simulation, so if u r telling me SCTPT2 is more realistic, well, i'd like a tennis game where i can find more nets, more faults, more outs and not always perfect balls onto the line. No game is giving that, so i'll keep playing SCT i think, i don't care the graphics, the moves of the players in SCT are superb, it seems that real hewitt or safin are playing the match, each one with his own shots and serves, but anyways i'll download TS just to see and play lena, and because i like tennis
BTW just won the championships with lena
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i'll download TS just to see and play lena, and because i like tennis
BTW just won the championships with lena
Could you post a link where I can d/l TS? Thanks in advance
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Virtua Tennis play mechanics are crap. I don't like the camera angle, and the sound that you hear when you strike the ball is like playing ping pong. Also you don't have a complete shot selection. I never quite figured out how to do drop shots in that game, even though the computer did it a few times against me. And for some reason, whenever I play that, my character has a tendency to move toward the net.

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I always prefer simulation, so if u r telling me SCTPT2 is more realistic
Me too. Which is why I like SCTPT2 the most. SCTPT1 is more realistic, but it's frustrating. Especially serving the ball.

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well, i'd like a tennis game where i can find more nets, more faults, more outs and not always perfect balls onto the line.
Faults happen a lot. Shorter players net the ball a lot. Unforced errors don't happen much, unless you hit flat shots and mistime it. Then you get lots of errors... errors are realistic in real life, but when you play a game, it doesn't make it more fun... What decides whether the ball lands in or out? Sheer luck? It could miss by a few cm. In a game, the focus would be on tactics, rather than execution. You don't want to have a match decided by luck, since it isn't you striking the ball, it is the computer that makes the hit, and they won't stuff up unless you mistime it.

Having said that SCT series is more realistic than Top Spin because you have to connect the shots yourself. Swing too early and you're gone. Be out of position when you swing, and you will miss. Top Spin connects the shots instantly and your character will even move into position to reach the ball if you aren't already, which makes it extremely unrealistic. In a real match, you will frequently be forced to guess one way or another, but in TS, you hit the button and they'll automatically move in the correct direction. You can also move one direction and turn quite easily. It's a game more for newbies to the sport than SCT.

For realism, SCT1 is the most realistic, but it's frustratingly so. SCTPT2 makes a compromise and goes half way between realism and practicality. If you make it too realistic, then casual tennis gamers won't be able to play it. Volleying by the way is a lot easier in TS than SCTPT2 (you do perfect volleys and you don't really have to guess the direction). Too easy, but that's good I think. In TS I find myself always serve-volleying, while in SCTPT2 I'm usually at the baseline. That's because serve-volleying is very difficult in SCTPT2. When you're at the net, it's kinda hard to connect the shot. You have to press it early like a reflex, but if they lob it, you're screwed if you pressed early.

My gripes with SCTPT2 are that the shot connection can sometimes be difficult too... returning a Lob comes to mind. And the idea of drop shot and lob sharing the same button is stupid. I often attempt a drop shot and end up hitting a poorly placed lob which loses me the point. Similarly, returning a drop shot in TS is difficult, without your opponent hitting a winner on the next shot (I play on Hard).

In the end though, the points you can construct in Top Spin's flimsy physics are a lot more satisfying. You can make some amazing scrambling and counterpunching that would put the real life Lleyton Hewitt to shame...

And also SCTPT2's character line up blows Top Spin out of the water (except that TS has Lena of course Other than that, Top Spin has players like Sampras, Anna K, Michael Chang who had stopped playing well before the game released) It's the best of any tennis game. The best player to play as by far in SCTPT2 is Juju. Everything that backhand touches turns to gold.

I hope they make a SCTPT3, and it should include Roger Federer to be complete (Roger himself says he wants to be in a game). They should get rid of Richard Gasquet to make room for him. On the women's side, they should replace Anna K with someone who's actually active on the tour... either Masha, Nastya or LenaD. They'll probably end up picking Masha for marketing purposes. No offense to Anna K of course, but she's not an active player, and that makes her the odd one out.

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I have no problems with it. When you're seeing the match from the default angle you aren't really looking at the detail anyway. It's the gameplay mechanics that count.

To people looking to download top spin, first I hope you have a good game controller, and you need a graphics card that is at least a Geforce3. (Geforce 4 MX is not good enough by the way).

First way to get it is through a bittorrent client and a site like suprnova.org or torrentbits.org.

The other way is with an IRC client, and using an IRC search engine like debateroom.com.

Not sure if it's ok to post links here, but PM me if you need further help...

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But Lena is not in SCT is she? Which game are you playing?

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i don't care the graphics, the moves of the players in SCT are superb, it seems that real hewitt or safin are playing the match, each one with his own shots and serves
Yeah the same goes for top spin. The player's receiving stance, serving stance, and strokes simulate the real player's manerisms. Except in the case of Lena, who doesn't have that shocking serve in the game... She actually can hit a very graceful flat serve, or top spin, or slice.

Oh something I should mention, TS seems to get some tennis rules wrong. The way they announce scores in tie breaks is wrong. And there is not supposed to be a change of ends before a tie break. And I'm not too sure an under-arm serve is legal in tennis...

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But Lena is incredible in TS... her backhand looks brilliant, and her service motion is so good Lena should learn from her TS counterpart in the game...
You are dead right JC!! I played against lena ,as my Lena ,and got my ass
absolutely thrashed!! she just rails forehand returns straight down the line when you serve and she is bloody everywhere ,u cant get anything past her at all ,bit like the real one i reckon!!!

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Hey... are you going to work on the serve with your Lena, or are you going to stay true to the real Lena? Try and get a good forehand and backhand. Give her weapons she doesn't have in real life (a 180kph serve for instance). The people online have amazing stats and they hit risk shots a lot.
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