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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old Aug 14th, 2003, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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Depression ???

When will some of these youngers players actually promise what talent they show

Some start of good (at oz open) then fall away like

Cindy Watson
Bry anne Stewart
Amanda Graheme
Beti Sekuloski
and so on . . .

they starty off and have a good year (like most of the above who were ranked inside the top 180) and then accomplish nothing else and no unfortunately sink further and further down the rankings

Sam, Christina and Evie dont seem to be doing anyhting . . Nicole and Lisa should think about hanging up the racquet and luckily nicole and alicia are saving australia seom pride at the moment

I know who have 'others' coming through like

Casey
Adriana
Lauren C
Lauren B
Lara
Jessica
Danielle
and so on . . .

but how many of these girls will fulfill our expectations or will they lose there sense of culture and begin the tour then sink like so many before them


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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old Aug 14th, 2003, 11:51 AM
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sam and danielle should be pretty good players and so should sophie. i think sam is the future of aussie tennis, sam and alicia will take us through the next 7 or so years (+ or -). evie really should be up with alicia and nicole saving australian tennis. casey should also be quite good. at the moment things look promising but we are going through a rough period and our prospects don't always fullfill their potential.

good luck to the girls!

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but hopefully alicia's performances this year will motivate the younger ones to really step up. alicia has actually given them a standard to look up at and naturally as the leading prospects of the country they should be trying to reach that or better it but i think alicia actually doing what she has done has helped a lot and now i think there is more of a chacne that some of our girls will reach their potential.

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also good luck to: azarenka, lucic, sprem, vakulenko, vaidisova, safarova, ivanovic, groenefeld, mirza, krajicek, kvitkova, larcher de brito, lisicki.
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Very well said Gowza

i forgot about

Sophie
and
Olivia

those 2 do look to have good futures along with the rest


I do agree about alicia being a model to these younger grils - she won our first title in many years and it would at home to which would of showed a few home grown girls in person

thats always the question about are we coachig them right - its hard to say since our area is so isoalted compared with north/south america , asia and europe so our girls perhaps have false pretences about other girls outsdie australia and then when they do play they get a big shock

but lets hope a few can get through and crack top 20 or 50 atleast

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When will some of these youngers players actually promise what talent they show

Some start of good (at oz open) then fall away like

Cindy Watson
Bry anne Stewart
Amanda Graheme
Beti Sekuloski
and so on . . .

they starty off and have a good year (like most of the above who were ranked inside the top 180) and then accomplish nothing else and no unfortunately sink further and further down the rankings

Sam, Christina and Evie dont seem to be doing anyhting . . Nicole and Lisa should think about hanging up the racquet and luckily nicole and alicia are saving australia seom pride at the moment
When did Sekulowski ever do well at the Australian Open????
She missed a lot of this year with injuries.

Cindy wasnt a young chicken when she reached the 3rd round, she was a veteran of the challenger circuit aged 24. She also has battled injuries most of this year, she has just started her comeback playin local pennant and totally dominating which is a good sign.

Grahame and Stewart certainly showed a lot of talent in 96-98 as juniors but never have really been able to take their game to a higher level after a few years hovering round 150-200. Amanda nearly retired before her run to the semis at Canberra in 2002. She was all set to continue but has suffered injuries most of the year.

Why should Nicole and Lisa think about hanging up their racquets? Nicole nearly had her first win over a top 10 player today and will finish the year in the top 50! McShea has already won like 5 challenger titles this year, she's earning good money. Plus she is still in the top 8 nationally in singles!

Certainly this year has been disastrous for Australian women tennis. Alicia and Nicole have flown the flag and have had solid years, Evie has done her usual mediocre, Stosur's making ground. Monique Adamzcak and Nicole Kriz have returned successfully from injuries and Breadmore and Dellacqua have made steady progress.

However there is a gaping whole now in our rankings. Below Wheeler (170ish rank), there is only flailing McQuillan, Breadmore and McShea in the top 300 This is largely due to injuries to Watson, Grahame, Horiatopolous, Kriz, Hewitt, and retirements of Dowse, and Belobradjic.

Another reason lot of this was due to poor allocation of wildcards, awarding them to players that hadnt even proved their junior ability outside Australia which totally backfired in Tennis Australia's face as 3 'promising' juniors won a total of 6 games combined in their qualifying matches. A lot of players were 'pissed off' as they felt they deserved/had earned the rights to a wildcard into at least one of the Australian events and were snubbed. Not only does this national snubbing cause a bit of 'self doubt' with the players concerned it also leaves them up shit creek financially too.

Players over 23, like Watson and Dittmann especially were dealt a raw deal!

Over 35 wildcards get distributed to Australian players each year for the singles events in the 5 WTA/ITF tournaments in Australia. This year more than 20 aussie females were granted a wildcard into at least 1 event, however our 8th ranked player didnt receive a single wildcard at all because she was considered too old? How does that work!!! With a top 250 ranking in singles and doubles she didnt even get a doubles wildcard either!!! After the Aussie Circuit was over Mireille had less than $250 dollars in prize money, not even enough for a plane ticket. How disillusioned would you feel????? Your number 8 in the country, just had your best year ever and are then not deemed 'worthy' of a wildcard/financial support!

Tennis Australia needs to help more the players ranked 200-500 and not get carried away with juniors that have unproven potential! Wildcards are their to help players get a 'lucky break' and to offer them some prizemoney to support their progression, not to give some school kids with no ranking an 'experience' and some money to blow on clothes and cds!

Im a strong believer that unless you have a top 100 junior world rank or top 800 Senior rank that a wildcard shouldnt been an option! Dokic certainly was never granted a wildcard until she had proven herself in Juniors!
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Sam is in 50k bronx this week but whelle lost in the 2nd round of quallies and ohh. i see Maquillian lose to.. in 1st round quallies
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Forgive me Aussboy i meant Racheal not Nicole (thinking of nicole bratke)

Thats true about the governing body being a bit of an asshole towards our players but still most should be able to make an impact on world tennis

we all know injuies ruin promising starts and etc but some of our girls retire to early pershaps - like amanda, jenny and mellisa - although they were getting on in year they would of still been able to play if they wanted to

and that gap is pretty big just roughly

alicia and nicole (50-60)
evie (120)
sam(140)
christina (170)
racheal (200)
lauren b(270!!)
few others . . . . . .

Its alroght for aussies to play in challengers and stuff bu they need to do well not just lose 1st rounds and in qualifying . also monique is also playing a challenger too and i think in 3rd round


that is really shocking and we need our stars to perform on home soil to get off to a good year. Thats the good thing this year at least for the rest of the year we have barely any points to defend anywhere ( in us) and come aus season only Alicia (tas) and nicole and sam (oz open) has any points to defend. This is our chacne to set a f ew players up for the rest of the year and hopefully realise there potentail - but it seems almost eerytime a young aussie gets in a draw they face a seed, whether that is riged or luck . . . . .we shall never know

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Pratt loves hardcourts look for her in the 2-3+ rounds hopefully Alicia Hmm 3 round hopefully!
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Yes hopefully this will get some encouraging results in us and thus leading into Oz open

nicole should get to 3rd
alicia should get to the 3rd

with favourable draws
sam should quailfy and get to 2nd
evie will hopefuly qaulify
racheal will hopefully quailfy

and chirstina and lauren with get to final round

and then we discussed get better results and smarter wildcards leading into aussie events

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Some of these girl that have been mentioned could have God on their side and they still wouldn't achieve what is hoped. I haven't seen too many Aussie girls with TALENT that would sustain a fruitful career. Probably apart from Stewart who I thought at one stage had the strokes to do something, the likes of Watson, graham, ellwood, never really had the talent, strength or temperment to do much! So I feel what's happened isn't really surprising.

Molik, Stosur seem to have the strength and hopefully will keep plugging away.

What Nicole Pratt has done is phenomenal considering her lack of strengths.

The wildcard debate has been discussed back and forth since the start of the year!!! I think we've all mentioned our positions over and over!

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Adriani Szilli, Sam Stosur, Molik, Olivia Luckasaweizch = talent

The rest have to work hard.
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Szili? *laughs* Sorry...

Yes she's got talent....but is yet to win a match all year. She's gone...most people on here know how much I like Adriana (one of my faves) but the kid has blown her chance.
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For our sake lets hope she can turn it around along with monique and cindy who are just starting again after injuries

mirelle, brianne, lisa and both laurens who havent really done much

casey to continue her change from jun to senior

sam, christina, evie and racheal to win more macthes and climb closer to 100 mark

and nicole and alicia keep leading our proud country


Oh and tennis australia to figure out what they are doing and get our country among the great tennis nations where we used to be!!!

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