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View Poll Results: Who should get the French Open wildcard?
Olivia Rogowska (VIC) 12 57.14%
Isabella Holland (QLD) 0 0%
Monika Wejnert (QLD) 3 14.29%
Other - Jessica Moore (WA)/Sophie Ferguson (NSW) - please state 6 28.57%
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post #1 of 134 (permalink) Old Apr 23rd, 2009, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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A place to discuss all results in the lead up to, and including, Roland Garros.
Also a place to discuss the wildcard selection, which for some is more interesting than the actual event

Interesting video posted on the TA website...interview with Jessica Moore;
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/defau...4&pageId=11501
The interviewer asked Jessica if she would be playing qualifying for the French Open and Wimbledon and she states quite clearly that yes she will be playing qualifying...she doesn't mention any wildcards...
With the French Open just over a month away, I wonder if TA has already informed the wildcard recipients, or at least ruled a few people out???

Food for thought, anyway

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Re: French Open 2009

I'd be really pissed off if she gets another one to be honest. Either Rogowska and Holland should be given an opportunity depending on their form leading up. Ferguson and Moore will be better off in quallies anyway seeing as they both will make the cut.
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Truthfully I do not believe that any of them are deserving of a wildcard for the FO as regardless of who gets it, it is probably a waste. Let's take a look at what's on offer.

Jess Moore - Rank 140 - has done ok at a couple of slams but where has she been since the AO? When does she intend to step onto a plane and get overseas and get some points?
Sophie Ferguson - Rank 210 - has fallen out of favour with TA after being their love child for years. However, she is out there slogging it out, travelling all over the place trying to get points. I think she would be one of the better choices. I think she has had some injury as well over the past 12 months so ranking is not bad taking that into consideration.
Monique Adamczak - Rank 232 - never really in favour with TA but year in year out she is out there travelling world wide in her efforts to break through.
Maria Mirkovic - Rank 312 - She has probably shown more effort than anyone else born in the 90s. Doesn't sit on her backside in Oz waiting for easy wins at the worst $25ks on offer.
Olivia Rogowska - Rank 333 - Ok she has won a $25k challenger in Oz and did ok at the Oz Open but where has she been since then?

Holland, Weinjert etc. did ok at weak Oz Challengers but unless they are prepared to travel they are never going to make it. I think the WC is probably wasted on Weinjert as she probably needs to focus on her schooling this year. I can't see why everyone keeps raving on that Holland should get it. What has she done that is better than anyone ranked above her? Be objective and take out anything to do with $25k challengers in Australia and what are we left with.

I would like to see a play off between the top 4 outside of DE after the 2 challengers in Oz are finished. None of this Round Robin BS, that's not real world, bring your A game everytime or you are out.
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Soph - Jess will get acceptance into quals and she should try and get through for once
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Truthfully I do not believe that any of them are deserving of a wildcard for the FO as regardless of who gets it, it is probably a waste. Let's take a look at what's on offer.

Jess Moore - Rank 140 - has done ok at a couple of slams but where has she been since the AO? When does she intend to step onto a plane and get overseas and get some points?
Sophie Ferguson - Rank 210 - has fallen out of favour with TA after being their love child for years. However, she is out there slogging it out, travelling all over the place trying to get points. I think she would be one of the better choices. I think she has had some injury as well over the past 12 months so ranking is not bad taking that into consideration.
Monique Adamczak - Rank 232 - never really in favour with TA but year in year out she is out there travelling world wide in her efforts to break through.
Maria Mirkovic - Rank 312 - She has probably shown more effort than anyone else born in the 90s. Doesn't sit on her backside in Oz waiting for easy wins at the worst $25ks on offer.
Olivia Rogowska - Rank 333 - Ok she has won a $25k challenger in Oz and did ok at the Oz Open but where has she been since then?

Holland, Weinjert etc. did ok at weak Oz Challengers but unless they are prepared to travel they are never going to make it. I think the WC is probably wasted on Weinjert as she probably needs to focus on her schooling this year. I can't see why everyone keeps raving on that Holland should get it. What has she done that is better than anyone ranked above her? Be objective and take out anything to do with $25k challengers in Australia and what are we left with.

I would like to see a play off between the top 4 outside of DE after the 2 challengers in Oz are finished. None of this Round Robin BS, that's not real world, bring your A game everytime or you are out.
Moore did go over to the USA after the Australian Open. She won 1 match over a lucky loser of about 3 or 4 tournaments.


Adamczak in too old, although probably more of a chance of winning a round than any of the younger girls. The WC ship has sailed.

Ferguson & Moore will both be in qualifying. We should be trying to get as many girls over there competing as possible.

Wejnert is probably too inexperienced, hasn't competed overseas on the womens tour. Neither has Holland for that matter.

Mirkovic has had a good go at it overseas, won a few matches, and had an amazing AO. Proven she can hit it out with the girls on tour.

Rogowska is my pick. Has competed (albeit briefly) overseas on the ITF, did very well @ AO, and clay is her favourite surface. The TOP 300 is only around the corner, she should be well inside after these 2x25K's.


My order;

Rogowska
Mirkovic
Holland
Ferguson
Adamczak
Moore
Wejnert


A playoff between Rogowska/Mirkovic/Holland/Moore would be good, or even an 8-player playoff (add Shannon Golds to the mix)
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Clay may be Olivia's preferred surface, but doesn't have a great record on it...

She's played 7 events on clay, usually at the ITF 10k level, and lost R1 or failed to make it through quallies on 5 of those seven...
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I don't think age should have anything to do with it. It should be merit based. Look at Nicole Pratt - she did not peak until her late 20s. Sophie is only 23 and still has a lot of potential. I don't agree with the thought that it should all be about numbers and getting as many people there as possible. We are better if we can get 1 wildcard to progress than having 10/10 losing in qualifying.

I haven't seen anyone do much overseas with the exception of Sophie. If I had to nominate 1 person today it would be her and my decision would be purely on merit. I have never been a big Sophie fan as I have felt she has performed far below her potential, but since she has come back on the tour she does seem to be stepping it up.

I am very disappointed that all these TA love children that are getting sponsored by AIS don't seem to be doing anything beyond playing Oz challengers and the occasional overseas tourney that falls either side of the Open. They need to get out there and challenge themselves.
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Re: French Open 2009

I'm reserving my judgement until we get the results from today's AMT final and of course after the next few 25ks.

I don't think it's fair to make too much of Rogowska, Holland et al not playing a lot overseas. Both are on age restrictions. Both are young and both are in the AIS. The AIS decides where the girls play and how much they play. It's not like either of them haven't travelled overseas before, though. Holland did the juniors swing last year (aged 16) through Italy, France and the UK before heading over the the US and Canada. Rogowska played some ITF tournaments on clay in Eastern Europe. Both have come a long way since this time and both should be given serious consideration for the wildcard. TA are pushing a youth policy and this will see one of the youngsters get the wildcard.

Fair enough, Vicky88, that you would nominate Sophie for the wildcard. She has done the most of any non-direct acceptances this year (bar Rodionova). However she is now outside the youth policy range (Under 23), has had more than her fair share of Grand Slam wildcards (people go on about Jess getting too many) and has made no significant progress to warrant the wildcard. In addition she is playing a shocking schedule in the lead up to Roland Garros (if she even decides to play). How is playing on hardcourts and carpet in Asia ever going to help you play on clay in Europe, least of all the French Open? At least Rogowska, Holland et al are doing that.

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Dellacqua or Adamczak or Ferguson or Molik shud get the WC over these peasents
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Re: French Open 2009

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A place to discuss all results in the lead up to, and including, Roland Garros.
Also a place to discuss the wildcard selection, which for some is more interesting than the actual event

Interesting video posted on the TA website...interview with Jessica Moore;
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/defau...4&pageId=11501
The interviewer asked Jessica if she would be playing qualifying for the French Open and Wimbledon and she states quite clearly that yes she will be playing qualifying...she doesn't mention any wildcards...
With the French Open just over a month away, I wonder if TA has already informed the wildcard recipients, or at least ruled a few people out???

Food for thought, anyway
It would not have been decided yet. I think Jess is smart enough with the media now not to make mention of it as a possibility and then act VERY surprised and pleased when she gets it.
Unless TA make them play-off I think Jess will get it. If they were looking beyond Jess for the FO w/c then I don't think she would've been selected for Fed Cup. I hope her form has picked up enough to be competitive out there. Imagine the uproar if she scores a match up against a French junior w/c ranked 600 and wins.

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Someone new. I mean I'm sure Sophie and Monique are working hard, but I feel that these young players who are showing potential need the exposure more.
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100% should go to Sophie!

If there is a playoff, it should be Moore, Adamczak, Ferguson and Mirkovic who all have grand slam singles wins!

Holland and Rogowska have basically never won a senior match outside Australia and it would be a total waste.
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^^ Olivia reached the SF of a $10K in Serbia last year.
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^^ Olivia reached the SF of a $10K in Serbia last year.
Big Whoop! Look at Mirkovic's record in Europe last year, was way better with one final, one semi final and two quarter finals
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