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Ich sehe sie halt nur eher in den hinteren Top 50. Natürlich muss ich auch damit leben, dass wenn sie es auf 40 oder 30 im Ranking schaffen sollte, dass man mir das dann vorhalten wird. Aber damit habe ich auch keine Probleme, wenn ich mich getäuscht haben sollte. Man sieht doch auch an dieser anonymen Abstimmung, dass hier die User andere deutsche Nachwuchsspielerinnen als stärker ansehen: Diskussionen, Meinungen und Prognosen
Du hast hintere Top 100 geschrieben. Genau das mag ich halt nicht. Erst "Niedermachen" dann relativieren und zwar erst nachdem es dir schon bewiesen wurde. Und nochmal: Sie hat dich in wenigen Monaten widerlegt. Wenige Monate nachdem du sie als damals 18-jährige schon fast abgeschrieben hattest.

Die Umfrage zeigt mir erstmal, dass die meisten User Schlaghärte überbewerten und Arbeitseinstellung unterbewerten. Was hast du mit 17 oder 18 oder 19 von ALG gehalten?
Zweitens: was heisst bessere Karriere? Mehr Titel? Längere Zeit in den Top xy? Höhere beste Platzierung? Wenn ich zB letzteres als Maßstab nehmen würde, hätten wir dann ja jetzt schon 3 neue Top 60 Damen sicher. Toll, oder?

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Du hast hintere Top 100 geschrieben.
Ja, das war ein Schreibfehler. Ich meinte auch hintere Top 100.


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Zweitens: was heisst bessere Karriere? Mehr Titel? Längere Zeit in den Top xy? Höhere beste Platzierung? Wenn ich zB letzteres als Maßstab nehmen würde, hätten wir dann ja jetzt schon 3 neue Top 60 Damen sicher. Toll, oder?
Das ist eine längerfristige Umfrage, die ich gemacht habe, weil das jemand wollte.
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Dort steht außerdem nicht besser, sondern erfolgreich, was von Erfolgen kommt. In 5 bis 10 Jahren kann man sehen, ob die Mehrheit der User richtig lag oder nicht. Falls sie falsch lag, ist das auch kein Beinbruch.
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Entweder man steht zu einer Spielerin oder lässt es bleiben. Sie oder generell eine Spielerin auch in schlechteren Zeiten zu unterstützen scheint nicht jedermanns Sache zu sein.

Wenn Annika gegen Cepelova verliert, dann wissen wir ja was wieder kommt . Wenn sie gewinnt, dann ist es wahrscheinlich wieder nur ein MM-Turnier, was man nicht überbewerten sollte. Irgendwas findet man immer um die Leistung zu schmälern. Ein Turnier gewinnt sich nicht von selbst, egal wie klein. Taschkent z.B. ist weitaus schlechter besetzt als Florianapolis...

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2 hours rain delay so far, but I'm guessing they'll still manage to have it played tonight if there's no further rain. 2 Singles matches and a doubles match before hers, but I'm guessing if it's getting tight they'd push the doubles to Court 2 again.
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The problem is it's meant to rain pretty much on and off until 8pm local time. I don't think Annika will get on today.
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They really shouldn't have outdoor events when there such a massice chance of rain. Same problem as in Pattaya a few weeks ago. Given how slowly they are drying the court we really won't see Annika today.
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Events like this really should have a court cover. I mean they're inexpensive. It takes them an hour to prepare the court after a rain delay. With court covers it would probably take 15 mins. That is a lot of time lost when rain showers are scheduled on and off like today.
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Events like this really should have a court cover. I mean they're inexpensive. It takes them an hour to prepare the court after a rain delay. With court covers it would probably take 15 mins. That is a lot of time lost when rain showers are scheduled on and off like today.
You should tell this the guys that organize Flushing Meadows. That's even a Grand Slam but no covers everywhere you look.
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Rain Covers on HC aren't faster at all, they explained this several times.

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I don't get why they never cover hardcourts. Same in Brazil.

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I don't get why they never cover hardcourts. Same in Brazil.
read it here:

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/201...s-a-non-issue/

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The problem is scheduling an event during the rainiest time of the year.

Increased rainfall occurs from January to March

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Actually I have to say: if they need 20 minutes in Montréal for drying the courts then it's okay. But here in Brazil it took them almost an hour to get them dry. And that is definitely too much.
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While that maybe true for big events like Montreal and US Open where they have big power Zamboni's, events like Florianopolis it's just plain stupid to not have them. There out there drying the courts with towels and squidees ffs, those aren't going to dry it very fast.

I'd also dispute some points they claim in that article anyway, like we have interview in UK with someone at USO who said how they clear the court in 20 minutes. If anyone could point me to a proper rain delay at USO where they prepared the court in 20 minutes I'd like to see it. It normally takes double that time. But that is completely moot point in the case of small events like Florianopolis. The first rain delay today it took them around 80 minutes to dry and prepare the court.

Anyway if there is no more rain we will probably get to see Annika today .
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Anyway if there is no more rain we will probably get to see Annika today .
Yeah, Venus seems to be finishing this quickly. But the singles match after that is #280 against #634, god knows how they're going to play. I can already see them moonballing for 4 hours.
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