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I don't think she should retire. This issue never prevented Justine Henin from achieving a lot.
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so why did she make the decision at the age of 19?
Do you really think she has the strength of a man ?
Still pretty shocking that all this seems to be common knowledge.

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19. In the period from January to April 2006 Dr. Skalny sent very detailed messages to Ms Sharapova [...]: “Mildronate 1-2 X 10, repeat in 2 wks (before training or competition)”; “1 hr before competition, 2 pills of Mildronate”; “During games of special importance, you can increase your Mildronate dose to 3-4 pills (1 hr before the match). However, it is necessary to consult me on all these matters (please call)”; “30 minutes prior to a training session: Mildronat – 1 Capsule. 30-45 minutes prior to a tournament Mildronat 2 capsules”.
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Thats is soooooooo sad. :cry:
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Re: Sad story: German Sarah Gronert considers retiring because............

How on Earth did this become common knowledge? Very strange.

Best of luck to her, she should keep her chin up and play on.
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This world is full of cruel, sick haters of anyone that is different. Fuck them Sarah! Go out and achieve your dreams. Kick their asses, and do it in style.

Just please, don't give up. :'(
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hatte das vergnügen mir in alkmaar das spektakel anzuschauen...wollte eigentlich nur gutes tennis sehen...drahtzieher der hetzjagd war neben der schon erwähnten marina melnikova auch die spielerin neda kozic...wobei melnikova eher eine mitläuferin war....die beiden können eh nichts....spiel weiter sarah!!!!!!....don't give up!!!!!!
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She has a feminine face without a problem and she's a cutie, just my opinion about her looks .

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They use to perform the surgery when the child was very young ( Depending on private part size and function ) but now docs have since changed their mind on this.

The main reason they wait until the child is at least a teenager now is due
to hormones.Years ago when surgery was performed when the child was 3.4.5.6 it was only base on the private parts and what the child looked like more.

They now wait for the child to choose when they become teenagers and hit puberty and the hormones start kicking in .This way there's no mistakes .


Years ago when they did the surgery (Lets say they removed the penis) and the child grew up they started to develop hair growth ( Facial hair etc..)and a deeper voice and other things that a male would have and this caused many mental problems for the person as they grew older because now they had no penis.

Vice a versa where they left the penis and the child would grow up with female hormones.

Sometimes the child has about the same amount of male/female hormones which makes it really hard and that's where it's best to let the child grow up and make the decision.

Many people's live's were destroyed by this old practice of removing private parts before the child grew into puberty when the hormones were pretty much present in equal amounts . It's what the person feels inside who they really are and only the child can decide on this when they get older.

The medical field has since reliazed their mistake and now they know it's better to let the child grow up and let the child choose who they really are.

As for the girls who made fun of her ..they are and will always be mean cruel unhappy people. It's sick when people have to do things like this just to feel better about themselves.

If i was there when this was happening i would be in jail for smashing their skulls in...seriously !

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hatte das vergnügen mir in alkmaar das spektakel anzuschauen...wollte eigentlich nur gutes tennis sehen...drahtzieher der hetzjagd war neben der schon erwähnten marina melnikova auch die spielerin neda kozic...wobei melnikova eher eine mitläuferin war....die beiden können eh nichts....spiel weiter sarah!!!!!!....don't give up!!!!!!
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But I, being poor, have only my dreams
I have spread my dreams under your feet
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams
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My understanding no. That is only the case for transexuals (men who converted to women). For her, she chose to be female as it was easier for her , perhaps both mentally and physically. They usually do this very young (deciding what gender to raise the child as) so as to avoid social ridicule for the child as they grow older.
I can see why she chose to be a female-I mean she looks and is a very pretty girl. Not sure, but i think she was really born mostly female. Sometimes little glitches happen while a fetus is developing. I know that if a woman is very estrogen dominate while pregnant, then sometimes her male baby can have higher levels of estrogen and therefore some of the effects of that. It happened to my nephew. One of his little you know whats didn't drop down and his other you know what is rather smallish.


Stranger things have happened--I've heard of people that had tumors removed that were found to have teeth (yes teeth) inside them!


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This is the world we live in, sheeeesh...

Good luck to Sarah though, I hope she sticks with the tennis. For her to give it all up cos of this would be a shame.

.*MASHA*.

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They use to perform the surgery when the child was very young ( Depending on private part size and function ) but now docs have since changed their mind on this.

The main reason they wait until the child is at least a teenager now is due
to hormones.Years ago when surgery was performed when the child was 3.4.5.6 it was only base on the private parts and what the child looked like more.

They now wait for the child to choose when they become teenagers and hit puberty and the hormones start kicking in .This way there's no mistakes .

Years ago when they did the surgery (Lets say they removed the penis) and the child grew up they started to develop hair growth ( Facial hair etc..)and a deeper voice and other things that a male would have and this caused many mental problems for the person as they grew older because now they had no penis.

Vice a versa where they left the penis and the child would grow up with female hormones.

Many people's live's were destroyed by this old practice of removing private parts before the child grew into puberty . It's what the person feels inside due to hormones who they really are.

The medical field has since reliazed their mistake and now they know it's better to let the child grow up and let the child choose who they really are.

As for the girls who made fun of her ..they are and will always be mean cruel unhappy people. It's sick when people have to do things like this just to feel better about themselves.

If i was there when this was happening i would be in jail for smashing their skulls in...seriously !

Rainer
Thanks so much for this info.

I had no idea ...

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19. In the period from January to April 2006 Dr. Skalny sent very detailed messages to Ms Sharapova [...]: “Mildronate 1-2 X 10, repeat in 2 wks (before training or competition)”; “1 hr before competition, 2 pills of Mildronate”; “During games of special importance, you can increase your Mildronate dose to 3-4 pills (1 hr before the match). However, it is necessary to consult me on all these matters (please call)”; “30 minutes prior to a training session: Mildronat – 1 Capsule. 30-45 minutes prior to a tournament Mildronat 2 capsules”.
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