Mona Barthel - Volume 2 - Page 9 - TennisForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #121 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:34 AM
Senior Member
 
LefandePatty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 31,432
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

I don't know why but I feel confident about the SF
LefandePatty is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #122 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:46 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Quote:
10.1.: Happy to be in the semifinal. It's difficult to get your rhythm against Tsvetana. She is mixing it up very well. But in the important moments I played some good shots
.....


Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #123 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:48 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2




Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #124 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:52 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2



Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #125 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:53 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2



Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #126 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:53 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2



Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #127 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:54 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2



Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #128 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 11:54 AM
AO16 Champ.
 
Kerber Counter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 31,621
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2



Angelique Kerber 2016 Australian Open Champion
♥ Barthel ♥ Pliskova ♥ Shvedova ♥ Pavly ♥ Garcia ♥ Radwanska ♥ Mugu ♥ Svitolina ♥
Kerber Counter is offline  
post #129 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 12:27 PM
Senior Member
 
Tecumseh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,943
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hisagi. View Post
Flipkens will be much tougher for sure. She is a smart player and can play all around tennis. Her slice will trouble Mona probably. She has a better FH than Mona too so she probably will win most of FH to FH rallies (unless Mona is on fire).
Flipkens has a good but also predictable forehand. So if we are talking about consistency she might be better on that wing. But when it comes to dangerousness and power Mona's forehand is way better. And dont forget that Mona's backhand is in a different league.

As i mentioned above if Mona plays 70% tomorrow like today its going to be a clear victory.
Tecumseh is online now  
post #130 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 01:00 PM
Senior Member
 
Tecumseh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,943
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hisagi. View Post
I think exactly the same. There is still so much room for improvment in her game (Her FH, footwork, defence and her intensity/competitiveness on court). I feel she can improve in all these aspects I mentioned and I hope she does in the next 2/3 years. Let's give her time.

However, I can't see her improving much without a coach. That's for sure. I think when Mona gets enough money, she will get a coach hopefully. Let's not forget she was sleeping in tents 2/3 years a go.
I also think that one part of Mona's coaching problem is about money. All the losses during the second half of the season might have reduced her financial reserves dramatically and maybe that was the reason why she forebeared to travel with her tourcoach at that time. She surely won a lot of prize money until the end of April but lets not forget that even at that time she had a lot of costs (taxes, travel costs etc.) to cover so that her net earnings might not have been as high as many people believe.

And i am also very convinced that Mona knows that she can only unfold her full potential with a good coach. Thats why she started to work with Alexander Flock last year and i suspect that she will travel again with him during the european summer. At least i still see him named as her tourcoach on her website whereas you can also see there that she broke up with her management at the same time.

Lets hope for a good development and that we will get to know Peak Mona in two years.
Tecumseh is online now  
post #131 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 02:39 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,899
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Like Hisagi, I also see the semi as a pretty tough match, I'd put Mona as favourite but I think it could be awkward. One key factor here is Flipkens' serve. Don't underestimate her ability to hit serves that are very difficult to return even without possessing the kind of pace the biggest servers have. I'm not sure if Flipkens will be able to serve well enough to neutralise Mona's ridiculous talent for aggressive returns, but if she is able to do that Mona could be quite troubled.

Another key aspect will be whether Mona can deal with Flipper's slice bh well enough. If Mona hits good hard deep shots against that slice then Flipkens will be in trouble. It's very difficult to slice against a deep ball, the slice doesn't half-volley well and usually has to back off against depth or switch to a topspin half volley.

Kirsten is a very opportunistic player, quite often she'll be defending for a whole point and then get one opportunity to attack which she takes. Whereas Mona is a player who imposes power from the backcourt consistently throughout the entire point, Kirsten (by virtue of her bh) has to wait for opportunities to suddenly strike. So if Mona is able to maintain good depth and pace she might be able to deny Kirsten many chances.

I wouldn't underestimate Flipkens' tactical savvy either. Mona has more ability but Kirsten will be using all her know-how to try to steal the win. I think the battle between Kirsten's above average serve and Mona's big return might be the biggest key. Kirsten needs to find a way to get damage from her first serve and to survive the second serve points in order to give herself a chance.
HowardH is offline  
post #132 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 02:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Tecumseh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,943
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by HowardH View Post
Like Hisagi, I also see the semi as a pretty tough match, I'd put Mona as favourite but I think it could be awkward. One key factor here is Flipkens' serve. Don't underestimate her ability to hit serves that are very difficult to return even without possessing the kind of pace the biggest servers have. I'm not sure if Flipkens will be able to serve well enough to neutralise Mona's ridiculous talent for aggressive returns, but if she is able to do that Mona could be quite troubled.

Another key aspect will be whether Mona can deal with Flipper's slice bh well enough. If Mona hits good hard deep shots against that slice then Flipkens will be in trouble. It's very difficult to slice against a deep ball, the slice doesn't half-volley well and usually has to back off against depth or switch to a topspin half volley.

Kirsten is a very opportunistic player, quite often she'll be defending for a whole point and then get one opportunity to attack which she takes. Whereas Mona is a player who imposes power from the backcourt consistently throughout the entire point, Kirsten (by virtue of her bh) has to wait for opportunities to suddenly strike. So if Mona is able to maintain good depth and pace she might be able to deny Kirsten many chances.

I wouldn't underestimate Flipkens' tactical savvy either. Mona has more ability but Kirsten will be using all her know-how to try to steal the win. I think the battle between Kirsten's above average serve and Mona's big return might be the biggest key. Kirsten needs to find a way to get damage from her first serve and to survive the second serve points in order to give herself a chance.
I can follow your well-considered arguments quite well. Kirsten is some sort of a Brad Gilbert of the WTA-Tour and this match could turn out to be a tricky one. But under normal circumstances and with a lot of confidence on Mona's side she should be in a leading position.
Tecumseh is online now  
post #133 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 04:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,322
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Was a really good match of Mona! At least a nice outfit
Only girls like her (Dani,Ana..) can wear this dress, should maintain it!
She definitely gets better and more confident in her game with every win, even played strong in defense last night. I never had the impression she could lose it! Like this she is a joy to watch!

Nice schedule (morning CET) for her Flipper match... looking forward to see if she can make it to the final
maturedgirl is offline  
post #134 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 05:45 PM
Senior Member
 
rucolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 18,560
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Mona into Hobart SF !

Nach Radio B5 aktuell hat Mona Svetlana Pironkova bezwungen

Serena: "We have great personalities like Jelena (Jankovic) on the tour."
Jelena: "If I had to pick someone after me, I'd pick Serena."

Good Luck
Serena Williams Maria Sharapova Jelena Jankovic
A. Radwanska V. Zvonareva C. Wozniacki N. Petrova M. Hingis
T. Paszek A. Chakvetadze K. Sprem J. Dokic I. Tulyaganova A. Myskina
GNTM 2015
rucolo is offline  
post #135 of 2842 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 2013, 06:02 PM
Senior Member
 
Raiden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,830
                     
Re: Mona Barthel - Volume 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecumseh View Post
I can follow your well-considered arguments quite well. Kirsten is some sort of a Brad Gilbert of the WTA-Tour and this match could turn out to be a tricky one. But under normal circumstances and with a lot of confidence on Mona's side she should be in a leading position.
What on earth are you talking about? What does Kirsten got to do with the Wozniacki of ATP?

I'm pretty sure Kirsten is second only to Vinci as the best S&V player of the current WTA lineup. Her game is as far away from Brad Gilbert's game is as Pova's height is from Cibulkova's ass.
Raiden is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Image Verification
Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite.

Registration Image

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome