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Re: Laura Robson: The Silver Medal Years 2012-

Listen to Genie herself say it. She's quite bubbly when she talks to the media but she's all business when asked about the coaching situation at around 4:30 of the interview.
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To be clear Genie hasn't used the term "full time coach"
If he's travelling to tournaments with her. He is her full time coach. That's how I see it.

He's helping Laura outside of tournaments = Consultant/adviser.

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It's said that it's confirmed by Max that she's working with Saviano. Therefore the info he given them would have maybe inspired the article. That's why I also said, they could have over-exaggerated on what Max actually said by "working together" but it's weird that they said "coach" wouldn't Max have told them that it was a consultancy role if that's what it is? That's nothing to hide.
Who's to say Max didn't? The original article this came from was in the Mail. Whilst I am loathed to give the Mail any credit, Dickson is a good tennis journalist. In his article nowhere does he refer to Nick as Laura's coach. One of the picture captions says that, but that's just some random editor or someone captioning pics not the tennis journalist. Dickson refers to Nick as a coach and specifically says he will act in more of a consultancy role. The other articles came after this one and seem to have misinterpreted it to some degree. Not to rant or anything I think we all agree it's a consultancy role and not the greatest set up in the world. Laura needs someone senior dedicanted to her right now.

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I think that's the measure of it. Not sure this arrangement is a good idea for Laura and Genie's friendship.
Totally agree...I don't know, I just get the sense Genie is more prepared to put tennis before anything else than Laura is and that includes friendship. Obviously we have no real read into their relationship and i'm sure they're great friends now. But it's surely got to get tricky at some point.

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If he's travelling to tournaments with her. He is her full time coach. That's how I see it.

He's helping Laura outside of tournaments = Consultant/adviser.
She previously said only Slams and big premier. As of now it hasn't changed
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Totally agree...I don't know, I just get the sense Genie is more prepared to put tennis before anything else than Laura is and that includes friendship. Obviously we have no real read into their relationship and i'm sure they're great friends now. But it's surely got to get tricky at some point.
I've always thought that.

It's that killer instinct. No matter who's on the other side of the court. Laura's struggled so far, will be interesting to see if that's changed next season.

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I've always thought that.

It's that killer instinct. No matter who's on the other side of the court. Laura's struggled so far, will be interesting to see if that's changed next season.
It reminds me of Caro and Vika, who used to be really good friends. Caro made that comment that since Vika had got to #1 and started winning slams she had 'been doing more of her own thing' and their friendship isn't the same now. Genie is much more of a Vika, when push comes to shove she would chose tennis, Laura is like Caro, there are more important things than tennis. Incidentally Laura and Caro are quite good friends

Well if nothing else this could be a wake up call for Laura, I just worry in which direction it will wake her up.

The reception to this set up is no better on twitter looking at Cronin's and Carole Bouchard's tweets, 'this has fail written all over it'/.........

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It reminds me of Caro and Vika, who used to be really good friends. Caro made that comment that since Vika had got to #1 and started winning slams she had 'been doing more of her own thing' and their friendship isn't the same now. Genie is much more of a Vika, when push comes to shove she would chose tennis, Laura is like Caro, there are more important things than tennis. Incidentally Laura and Caro are quite good friends

Well if nothing else this could be a wake up call for Laura, I just worry in which direction it will wake her up.

The reception to this set up is no better on twitter looking at Cronin's and Carole Bouchard's tweets, 'this has fail written all over it'/.........
According to Cronin, Laura is still looking so that's the good news in all of this.
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Oh wow Cronin: 'reason Robson went with Saviano/Witten is cause she couldn't reach coaching deal with Mark Woodforde. May still hire another coach in '14'. Woodforde would be interesting.....wonder why they couldnt reach a deal.

Good thing is that this won't be permanent, but that's another off season without a long term coach.

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I suppose this temporary arrangement is better than her rushing into finding a coach and firing him six months down the line. Feels a bit strange though, a bit like she's now living him the shadow of Genie after being the front runner for so many years.

Australia will be interesting. A devilish part of me is hoping for a Robson v Bouchard first round in Melbourne

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I suppose this temporary arrangement is better than her rushing into finding a coach and firing him six months down the line. Feels a bit strange though, a bit like she's now living him the shadow of Genie after being the front runner for so many years.

Australia will be interesting. A devilish part of me is hoping for a Robson v Bouchard first round in Melbourne
I agree , if this is indeed a temporary arrangement. At least she has n
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Robson hires Witten as traveling coach, Saviano as coaching consultant http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/.../#.Uo0lM3m-3Xt

Great Britain’s Laura Robson has decided to hire American Jesse Witten as her traveling coach and hitting partner, and employ Nick Saviano as a coaching consultant.

TENNIS.com has learned that Robson tried to hire Australian coach Mark Woodforde to coach her, but the two couldn't come to terms financially, as he apparently asked for too much money.

The 19-year-old Robson may look to hire another coach in the future but will stay with this arrangement through at least the 2014 Australian Open. Even if she does add another coach, he or she will still consult with Saviano.

TENNIS.com has also learned that Robson has hired fitness trainer Mark Wellington to travel with her full time. Wellington has previously worked with Maria Sharapova and Victoria Azarenka.
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So Robson is Jorovic to Bouchard's Vekic?
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Let's take the positive here, Mark Wellington is a good move. If he can get Laura's footwork anything like Vika's or Maria's that would make a massive difference. Let's hope he's Laura s jez green. Get her movement good and her shots will be much more consistent, so many shots are missed due to being out of position. Forget the technical or tactical advice a good fitness trainer could transform her.

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Let's take the positive here, Mark Wellington is a good move. If he can get Laura's footwork anything like Vika's or Maria's that would make a massive difference. Let's hope he's Laura s jez green. Get her movement good and her shots will be much more consistent, so many shots are missed due to being out of position. Forget the technical or tactical advice a good fitness trainer could transform her.

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Been taking in the weird Saviano news all day and have only just hit upon what I think is the most interesting bit of all of it... Read between the lines here, she was trying to hire Mark Woodforde who has had no involvement with womens tennis other than fedcup coaching in 2003 as far as I can find, and doesn't seem to be doing anything at present, yet was too expensive. That tells me straight away she was going for a left-field choice, and had absolutely no intention of a major league hire. If Mark Woodforde is too expensive then surely there's no way she was even seriously considering Hogstedt or Joyce or Groeneveld, who all have much more recent proven pedigree, and would surely be much more expensive.

Now I can fully see why many think she's a bit immature in terms of wanting to take in the world chill and enjoy life with tennis not being the be-all end-all, and that may change it may not (Wozniacki shows no signs of changing soon preferring to be under the spell of lurve!), but the one thing I would never question is Robson's tennis intelligence. I've got a feeling as someone else suggested, that the most important and relevant move she's made has nothing to do with the coach or consultant, its the hiring of a bloody good fitness trainer, which went completely under the radar until someone pointed it out much later on.

What's her biggest weakness according to every commentator... movement and positioning.. One of her earliest coaches (Alan Jones) said not long ago her movement in relation to the oncoming ball is the least improved thing over the last 5 years and is holding her back. A good hitting partner and a good fitness trainer is the only thing that will really sort that out, and it is pretty much the case at the moment the only useful thing a coach can tell her is what she really struggles with, which every Sky, BT Sport, BBC and Eurosport commentator has been telling her without any charge for a couple of years now. Maybe she really struggles with it, maybe she hasn't put in enough work in the past, but a bit of a maverick she knows quite well started surrounding himself with specialists a few years back to sort out his weedy physique and stamina issues, and that didn't work out so badly...

Give it time....
If its any consolation a little bit of gossip on Cronin's twitter was very praising of Witten. Good tennis intelligence and a good hitting partner. Two things that wouldn't go amiss. And he's only just retired so he's got a full career of experience to share on winning ugly, and he's still quite fit!
See how it goes!
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