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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

You guys, my partner sent his picks to the person who posted the OOP 12 hours ago, it's not like he cheated or something. If the situation was reversed, wouldn't you feel the same way as us?

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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

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You guys, my partner sent his picks to the person who posted the OOP 12 hours ago, it's not like he cheated or something. If the situation was reversed, wouldn't you feel the same way as us?
I agree completely but take it up with the Board. Rules are rules. I love this game!! Until they change it, it is what it is. This is like Serena's hindrance. Did Stosur really have a play on the ball? No, but rules are rules.
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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

This is the current rule:

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New Rule Regarding Picks Sent to the Wrong Person

- where a player sends picks to the person who posts the OOP, then even when it is clearly marked who the PM should be sent to, if the player sends his picks to the person who posted the OOP or any other understandable person (eg the regular assistant manager) then picks CAN be accepted for play as long as they are forwarded to the rightful recipient (ie the manager) before the deadline for picks to be in.
(please note that this excludes doubles partners, so if i sent my picks to slokid and not the manager, the picks will not be counted even if slokid forwards them.)

example of the rule in practice:

joe87 is the tournament manager. meelis posts the OOP for joe. chris 84 then sends his picks to meelis, having misread the instructions. if meelis forwards the picks to joe87 before the deadline, then the picks will count. if not, they will not count. meelis is not forced to forward the picks, and chris 84 cannot complain if he doesn't, because essentially it is all chris's fault for not reading the instructions.
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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

One thing I don't get about that rule: If there is a time stamp on when the picks are sent why does it matter if the person forwards them before the deadline?

If the picks are sent before the deadline, they're sent before the deadline regardless of when they get forwarded.

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One thing I don't get about that rule: If there is a time stamp on when the picks are sent why does it matter if the person forwards them before the deadline?

If the picks are sent before the deadline, they're sent before the deadline regardless of when they get forwarded.
The issue is only one PM is being forwarded after the deadline. Theoretically, you could send different PMs before the deadline, and then forward whichever one you want after play has started after the deadline while play is in progress, so the timestamp wouldn't be enough. I'm not saying this is happening here at all, but it's the current rule and is very clear. It can always be re-evaluated before the next season.
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The issue is only one PM is being forwarded after the deadline. Theoretically, you could send different PMs before the deadline, and then forward whichever one you want after play has started after the deadline while play is in progress, so the timestamp wouldn't be enough. I'm not saying this is happening here at all, but it's the current rule and is very clear. It can always be re-evaluated before the next season.
Ahhh, yeah that makes sense

I didn't even think about that option

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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

So our picks are fine then as traddles forwarded them before play started?

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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

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Good luck Kaia and Anett in 2014.
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So our picks are fine then as traddles forwarded them before play started?
traddles realized after the deadline that he had Jean's picks. So they don't count.

Good luck Kaia and Anett in 2014.
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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

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You guys, my partner sent his picks to the person who posted the OOP 12 hours ago, it's not like he cheated or something. If the situation was reversed, wouldn't you feel the same way as us?
people wanted stricter rules on this matter, and whilst i sympathise with you entirely, rules are rules and this rule is now quite clear. in the past there was more leeway, but people were constantly complaining (rightly or wrongly) about the vagueness and discretionary elements of the rules, so this is what we did.

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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

I'm glad it didn't affect the outcome anyway, but thanks to the board for weighing in. Perhaps this rule can be revisited for 2014 if people are not happy with it.
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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

OOP Saturday

Christina MCHALE (USA) v Marina ERAKOVIC (NZE) TB2
Eugenie BOUCHARD (CAN) v Lucie SAFAROVA (CZE) TB3

Deadline at 1 pm local time.

Picks count for the first day of two-day finals in singles and doubles.

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I'm glad it didn't affect the outcome anyway, but thanks to the board for weighing in. Perhaps this rule can be revisited for 2014 if people are not happy with it.
Congrats! win the title now!

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Re: TT Quebec: Diffs tuesday in post#200 and #201

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Where is the TT Nazi when you need him? The picks should not be accepted. End of sentence. You guys wanted people to run this game to take all the fun out of it and have a million rules, well here you go. Let's keep it consistent. Picks shouldn't count. Fun, right?
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