These comparisons are really kind of pointess, especially considering Petra was suffering from a virus when she played Flipper, even though I think she still should have won that match.
What is really disappointing with the Halep match was that Petra came out, full of confidence in GOAT mode, Halep hung in with some outstanding play. Then she just... gave up.
Petra's game is based so much on confidence, she started with it and played outstanding... could/should have been 4-0 up, couldn't break and I could see what was going to happen a mile off, confidence shot and seriously couldn't see her winning another game. Why couldn't she just keep playing the way she was, with a bit of patience she would have broke her eventually.
And what was with the toilet break after 1 set?! Good way to show weakness to your opponent.
Her problems are 99% mental.
I love her game when she is on, she needs to learn how too sustain it. She also needs a plan b.
I have to agree!
Her plan B used to be the serve, but that is gone now, it signs off with the rest of her game when she gives up or loses her confidence.
You brought up a great point to Palkov, about comparing Petra now to 2011 against Flipkens. I agree. That would have been a massacre. And I wasn't doing that. I was only trying to illustrate that Petra's only average to decent right now, and how a "good" playing player beat Flipkens today (Venus), and a "very good" one (Bartoli) killed Flipkens, previously at Wimbeledon.
And No, everyone doesn't know!! Lol.
The reason why, I point out Petra's level sometimes? Cause they're still some Petra fans here, who state the opponent she lost to was "unbeatable/playing great (Pav's, Halep, Robson, Cirstea, etc.)", or now that [they think] she's fit, she's going to be a world beater again.
It couldn't be the farthest thing from the truth.
Plus, you do feel bad, when you watch Grandma Venus absolutely Boss the same Flipkens around the court, that Petra choked/loss to, missing out on a Wimbledon semi-final.
Who says that her opponent was unbeatable (unbeatable surely doesn't mean the same as playing great
And no, I don't feel bad about Venus bosing Flipper,
I'm glad actually, because I was cheering on grandma when she played against her last time and lost (gave up).
But I still don't get what this doesn't have in common with Petra's loss to her in Wimby besides Flipper her self.
She just stayed with her in the match long enough to use Petra's weak moment to win. Unfortunately (because it shows how weak/up and down Petra is), that doesn't mean that she (Flipper) wouldn't lose to any well playing aggressive opponent 9 times out of 10.
When Halep beats Radwanska, Li Na, (I wish Bartoli was still playing), a currently out of shape Vika, or some other legitimate player that's playing well here at the US Open, then I'll be impressed. And no, I don't know her quarter there. Lol
It's like Errani (who I like), winning MM tournaments, but can't win a Premier Mandatory or Premier 5, cause she loses to the legitimate, good players.
It's good for Halep though, that Petra, Sharapova, Bartoli, Kerber, Wozniaki, etc., are all out of form or AWOL for this tournament, and New Haven.
She's beaten Serena in the final.
Good point about Halep vs. "out-of-form girls".
Originally Posted by TennisAddict84
Yep, completely agree w/ you...and I include not being able to cope well or manage her asthma, DFs, and repeatedly shanking one ball after another w/ no intent as part of her mental issues
When's playing w/ these mental roadblocks, you completely forget that she even won a GS in the first place...she's just gotta sort out how to adapt and modify her game when she's not feeling well, things aren't going well, or her opponent is playing well...that is the true testament of a champion
I mean you see time and time again, Serena, Azarenka, and all the top players on the men's side still playing through when they're plagued w/ injuries, but they all manage to COPE w/ their injuries by modifying their game plan in the match...this is something Petra desperately needs to learn
Originally Posted by TennisAddict84
Yeah, gotta agree w/ you on this. I kept on seeing post after post about how Halep was outplaying Petra, looked like a future top 10er, and would be a legit threat at the USO...hell, I even saw a post comparing her defensive abilities to Djokovic
So then I go back and watch the replay of the match (didn't have time to watch it live)and lo and behold, it's another match where it's more about Petra self-destructing and gifting her opponent point after point rather than her opponent playing lights out tennis
I mean sure, Halep didn't make a lot of errors, and was steady & consistent, but she def DID NOT outplay Petra...when a player is shanking rally balls left and right or returning average 1st serves several feet from the baseline, I hardly call that outplaying them
But it's just comical to me how everyone has announced Halep as the next tennis superstar lol
Indeed, but that's nothing new, posters love to hype everybody who's young and well playing and ignore the facts (in this case, Petra's walkabout and self-destruction mode).
Why the surprise Jack?
It's obvious that that this is just a simple way how to show whether she keeps her play on certain level - to compare it with her best season so far. In addition, 2011 season was also a rollercoaster and despite this fact she grabbed 6 titles
What a potential to dominate she has!!
I would never say that Petra is a bad player, because she is not. But those (unfortunately) too frequent defeats to low ranked players this season are frustrating
Good point, I forgot the virus issue...but Iam afraid the result would not have been too different if she had been healthy...
I wasn't surprised, I just didn't get it. It's pointless compare her best season (win-loss record will be surely worse if you compare season with 6 titles and season with 1 titles and many tournaments played) or level of play from that season to this one because we all know she can lose to everyone on given day and used to be able to beat almost everyone on given day in 2011.
And yeah, you can say she is bad player after so many matches she threw away or lost, when she starts to play well again, she will be winning routine matches in two and play even matches with the greats.