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You need to re-read part of my post again b/c you got a bit turned around;it was my FRIEND who called Petra 'ugly' upon which I insulted him in return since he's not a tremendously attractive fellow...but,as I said,we smoothed things over and my friend has changed his tune now that Petra has lost weight,toned up and gotten her braces off

On to more important stuff---Steffi Graf definitely wasn't at all charismatic in her younger days as a champion,but she maintained favor with the WTA community simply by comporting herself well and winning impressively.Petra doesn't have to match that same level of success;if she just carries herself in a similar,dignified fashion then people will accept her even if she doesn't charm folks' socks off.Most true tennis fans won't demand that Petra be a glamour queen as long as she's sincere and true to herself,and they'll give her the credit she deserves for her triumphs
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It's a bloody coincidence I'm telling ya'! lol

BTW: I used to have and wear the same Adidas shirt he's wearing in my avatar. 1985 US Open. I hope it gives Petra good karma
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Apologies if this has already been posted:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...-finalist.html

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Apologies if this has already been posted:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ten...-finalist.html

I've read it before. But I don't think it's been posted here (and it still hasn't, cause it's a link). Lol.

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Ok next time I will copy and paste
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I´ m posting the rest of the interview but it is only czech transcript with no corrections, not totally completed, just one listening
I will have absolutely no time tomorrow
If anybody wants to make corrections i would be glad
First half of interview in a 'digital' format . Thanks Paulmara for the link. It is not a bad interview. I translated first part because the other one half has already been posted.

In English:


MOD: You are listening to morning Radiozurnal (Czech radio, mainly talk and interview show), which hosts a woman, a young woman, that 13 years after Jana Novotna raised the Wimbledon plate. Our guest today is Petra Kvitova, Hello! Petro ...
PC: Hello!
MOD: What's it like when you hold that plate above your head? Do you manage to realize what's going on?
PK: I haven’t realized it yet. I have been like completely in a dream. I still do, I could not ... I still cannot hardly believe it, what’s happened and that I really won that plate. When you are holding it over your head, you only sense those photographers, how you have to move so that they may take nice photographs…
MOD: So it has not sunk in yet as it says?
PK: Well, it's maybe OK (it hasn’t), as I am all the time somehow…. I am still continuing the season, it’s not finished yet completely… so it (Winning Wimby) is not exactly thing what … how I might end up the season. So I shall start the training program again and carry on.
MOD: Will we see some more grandslam titles yet ... ?
PK: Hopefully yes. (laughs)
MOD: Ha ha.
MOD: Petra Kvitova said after Wimbledon: "It will soon pass. So far I cannot imagine what will happen. “. You said that still in London, now you are already through a media circus and before your departure to the Tatra Mountains. Can you now imagine what happens when someone wins Wimbledon?
PK: I remember when I said that. And I remember when, after the finals, a lady from Nike came to me, and said: 'Your life will change. Are you ready for what’s coming at you at home? "Well, I said: 'Well, I think, it will not be that bad’. I did not imagine at all what I will have to go through, and what will happen around me, and, and, of course, all those media. But I had everything packed deliberately into that one day, so I had everything behind me and did not have to go to Prague perhaps on the second day of the week. However, I managed to do it all on the day I went to mister president, to Karlovy Vary (PK visited festival there), Czech Television, and Nike. The day was demanding but certainly it was better to handle it this way.
MOD: So now you can imagine it then. I cannot imagine at all that I would fly by a private plane to Karlovy Vary to save time. What's it like when someone sits in a private jet, and says ‘Am I dreaming?’ or do you consider it normal, you just need to get there quickly?
PK: Well, it's strange but it is exactly that way. I just took it, that I just need to be there as soon as possible. By car it would be impossible to get there on time. And also, the time was so valuable then! So certainly it was a help.
MOD: You've certainly read or heard from Wimbledon Winners about their feelings after the win, after they held the trophy, or the plate in the case of women. Does it correspond to at least with something you have experienced?
PK: I remember when Martina Navratilova says that the hardest is the first grandslam and after that it is easier, I do not know that yet. It will tell you then ... but otherwise ... for a tennis pro, it's the most one can win and furthermore it is Wimbledon. I think I am starting to find out (what it means), however I may not realize it fully until I finish my career.
MOD: And but that’s probably still a bit premature.
PK: Lets hope so.
MOD: What from the Wimbledon, with all the places, the tournament venue and the tournament itself actually a tennis player actually experiences? Because we spectators, we have all this fun, all these things from strawberries to tennis and cream. What about you?
PK: We do not have that much fun. We do know everything there, it's the same everywhere on all tournaments: training, hotel, food, sleep, full stop. So it's the same everywhere. With the Wimbledon, the advantage was that we had rented a house so we felt like at home. We could cook there, we had a little BBQ there once so it was definitely pleasant. But otherwise it was more or less the same. Simply tennis, fitness, everything.
MOD: So we all enjoy it but you do not much really ..?
PK: Perhaps we dont much. Well, it's our job.
MOD: How do you handle your own airline tickets? When I fly, I know when I fly back but you do not know that really or ...?
PK: We do not know, it's true. We ..,. we have an agent, which when you call him: I can not fly tonight, I won, could you try to move it? " So he makes a reservation, but .. he is not issuing a ticket, as he is still waiting for when we call him again whether we fly or nor.
MOD: So the agent made it work at Wimbledon too?
PK: Agent ..., yes, but we had only one way ticket, knowing that we would be buying the ticket back later on. So there was not a problem.
MOD: I've never been to a gala ball for the winner for Wimbledon. What is it like?
PK: To be honest, I was not looking forward to it.
MOD: Really? Were you afraid you will have to dance?
PK: No, not really .. but rather it was very late And I was somewhat tired and I did not want do anything and I'd rather lie down and rest. But I must say, when I was there so that they really let you appreciate that you are the winner, that it was you who 've won Wimbledon and everyone appreciates you and applauds you. So as it was, it was a wonderful experience.
MOD; One wakes up, probably after.
PK: Oneself then wakes up the next day when he does not have the dress.
MOD: You can’t keep these dresses? These are dresses which are borrowed for the occasion(?).
PK: Yes
MOD: .. So you cannot keep them if you somehow liked them a lot?
PK: I do not know, I did not ask, but I don’t think so.
MOD: And how it works? Will they tell you Dear Miss Kvitova, here you have a lady looking after your dress and choose a dress? And bring them to you?
PK: Yes, that’s exactly how it was. They brought in a batch of dresses into the locker rooms at Wimbledon together with the lady, with many make-up artists, or as I would call them. And we chose dresses, four pairs, then I tried them on, and we found the blue ones to be the prettiest.
MOD: Wasnt it was also due to the blue nail colour that brought you a bit of luck at Wimbledon?
PK: Oh, no, then when we were in a car with coaches, I said to myself 'Wow, that nail polish really tunes in with the dress’, so I was a little bit surprised. I definitely did not intend it that way.
MOD: You've definitely got a lot of beautiful gifts for the victory. The plate, it is indisputable, finance reward too, but .. those gifts you got from the others? What did they give you? Or what one can get (as a present)?
PK: They gave me flowers, of course, the most. So, from my aunt I got an awesomely beautiful jewelry, more like handmade.. So I was so pleased, I absolutely love it. I got a lovely necklace from Mr. Cernosek, my manager from Prostejov ...
MOD: .. and citizenship of the city of Fulnek ...
PK: Fulnek citizenship of and membership in the club TK Prostejov.
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MOD: Petro, I'm also a tennis child. But I wonder a lot how you had it with your tennis childhood? Have you read the book Andre Agassi Open?
PK: No.
MOD: So you don’t know what he went through?
PK: No.
MOD: However, that as a child he had quite a tough tennis dad .. have you ever heard about it?
PK: I've heard about it, but I do not know much about it.
MOD: Have you experienced at girls or junior tennis tournaments tennis parents?
PK: Yes, I remember that.
MOD: And can you describe to our listeners what such institution looks like?
PK: Ahh ..
MOD: Do not mince your words, describe what you had seen.
PK: Well, of course, some parents live through it more than others. And I think that unnecessarily punish their child when they make an error on the court or if they lose. It's just a sport! And certainly the majority of those parents think that they are simply bringing up a future Grand Slam winner. And that what they want, will happen, not realizing that's only sport, and everyone there wants to win. And those children are not into it that much, not completely.
MOD: Your dad definitely did not bring you up that way at the beginning as a Grand Slam winner, but somewhere a moment came when it occurred to him that it would be a success. Do you know when that was?
PK: I do not know when it was, but he certainly did not bring me with the fact that I should be playing professional tennis. And when I came to Prostejov, 16, 17 when I was ... yeah okay, we'll hit, maybe win something here and there, a match or two. But when exactly he could realize that I could win a grandslam I have no idea, I do not even know whether it has ever crossed his mind.
MOD: And do you have any completely clear, first tennis memory? What do you remember first on a tennis theme?
PK: Well, certainly Fulnek, court number one when I was starting to hit with my dad.
MOD: And your first racket?
PK: Well, I think it was a Wilson, purple.
MOD: It was made of wood or was it a plastic one?
PK: It was already made from plastic but of course I started with that .. as you have a board for cutting meat, so I also had the honor to play, a couple of times before I got the racket.
MOD: Here we called it the butcher's plank. What were your trainings like? How did you train as a girl? Did you go hitting a tennis ball, or did you dedicate to it somewhat seriously, including physical preparation?
PK: Always after school. The school was always a priority for daddy, also for ..., that is for parents. And then we always went for an hour, hour and a half to play. And it was still the same, that dad was focused a lot on the technique and, and we have honed the strikes gradually, not that I would just started to, I do not know, play some scary rallies. And we always had hit at each other, and we played like that for about an hour.
MOD: Is it an advantage when one trains more with boys than with girls? Which was perhaps your case?
PK: Well, I played mainly with my dad and with from time to time with my bros, but not much. But otherwise I did not play at all with anyone else until 16,17 when I went over to Prostejov. So, much to that, so I cannot really compare.
MOD: You have asthma, Petra. Is it a problem to play tennis with asthma?
PK: It was a very big problem when I think back, two years ago when I was on the American Tour before the U.S. Open and I could not breathe at all and I could not bear any training. So it was not pleasant, with the coach, we went through that a lot, because I did not know if it's physical preparation, if I'm really that bad or what's going on. Then we went on to those tests and we found out it was the asthma which for us was good though because we finally knew why it all happened. And I have to say that it is possible normally, comfortably do everything and I have a marvelous doctor here in Prague and I am so grateful to him for how I am being treated and how it works.
MOD: What has changed when in 16 years, which is relatively late, 5 years ago you entered such, we may say, a more professional tennis club?
PK: Well, it certainly was for me a change. I was afraid of course, a bit, because I did not know what all these things I'll have to do there. And what will happen there, because I have not done in Fulnek almost anything. There I did not have any oversight of coaches and it just everything was managed by dad. But it was for me really good because there were girls of my age, so we played there together. And of course to see there Berdych and Safarova, how they train, it was very nice and I thought 'Oh so that they are playing so well here. Now here I am, so do not know what I will come up here! ".
MOD: And one perhaps say to herself, that they might be one in the future be your tennis colleagues? Bedych, Safarova?
PK: Well, as time time went by when Mr. Kodet (Czech Fed Cup caprain at that time) took me for the first time to the Fed Cup as a sparring-partner so then, so it gradually worked its way through. And then we normally with Lucy had chats at the tournaments, went to dinners. So I thought, 'Hmm, that's probably yes, I guess. "
MOD: Petra, explain how to actually enter into the tennis world? When one plays the kids and junior tournaments here, there must be that start in senior tennis? What is it like in real life?
PK: Well, I had some good luck if I call it such, that I skipped somehow all those juniors under 18 years. I played everything in Czech Republic until I was about 16, 17, I played in Pardubice juniors, and then I got wild cards for the tournaments in the Czech Republic, for the senior ones, where I succeeded and now I did not have to worry about struggling among the seniors (in the local tournaments) at the beginning. And then I've had some points in the senior rankings straight away and I could go on to the women’ tournaments abroad.
MOD: But it's bigger shock then it must be, right? Oneself suddenly sees Serena Williams next to each other and all the big names and now .. I'd be in complete shock over it.
PK: Well, again it was not completely that fast. Of course I had occasionally had to go through something, some of those failures and that but... But I somehow overcame that. And do not know, somehow everything was coming through and suddenly I'm sitting here with you and talk about victory at Wimbledon!
MOD: Petra I have a feeling of it that you still do not believe it.
PK: Well. You have the correct feeling!
MOD: If it was me, I would keep checking up on the plate, as if it is really there. Does it happen to you too?
PK: I did happen to me too. I had it displayed at home but now it is at my parents already.
MOD: So I think it is where rightly belongs.

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Nice translation work,'Bikez',and this was a much more detailed interview than most of the crap that comes from the tennis media.Welcome to the Petra forum

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Welcome Bikez! I am new too.

I really enjoyed the article, I think Petra is in shock lol.
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She already is and the best is yet to come!
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Thank you BikezAreForever!! I really enjoyed reading that. I really respect her dad for not ramming the tennis down her throat and allowing her to enjoy it naturally without the insults and pressure. It's probably why she's still so positive and calm about it after so many years of playing. Her parents seem like excellent people.
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To BikezAreForever

I´m embarrased. It´s too excellent.

(note It seems like 3 minutes are missing. I ll check it and I will post the second part at 8PM local time)
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Petra's parents are low key and very well liked.
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Excellent work BikezAreForever

Most of us know the recent sports stuff coming out of her Wimby interviews. But you gave us a more detailed interview with a guy that obviously knew tennis, and Czech tennis. Good work.

Hopefully we'll see more interviews like this, but more with people reciting/analyzing/asking her about situations, circumstance, weather, court dynamics, change of strategy etc., coming out of tournaments like Brisbane, Paris, Madrid, French Open and Eastbourne, and how it helped prepare her to win Wimby, and the rest of 2011.

Haven't seen anything like that yet. But this one was certainly one of the better interviews I've read.

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I translated first part because the other one half has already been posted.
Great Work Bikez, & welcome to the Forum. Lots if new information came to light form this interview thanks to your translation skills.

To hear Petra say :"I got a lovely necklace from Mr. Cernosek, my manager from Prostejov ... ", was the missing piece in the jigsaw that I had been searching.

I recollected an interview that Petra did when she played at the Sparta Prague open 2011 where Dr. Miroslav Cernosek , Chairman of Česká sportovní, a.s. was a board member of the tournament.

Petra said "I have always trained at the TK Prostejov club, Mr. Cernosek is the owner there and he has always been good to me. He asked me to play a long time ago"

It closes the circle of how Miroslav Cernosek became her marketing manager as he owns Česká sportovní, a.s (Czech version of IMG) and also TK Prostejov.

So my initial hunches of Cernosek being a Czech oligarch seems correct given his political background, ownership of TK Prostejov & Česká sportovní, a.s. The question that remains unanswered at present is : what part did Dr. Miroslav Cernosek play in the admittance of Petra to the TK Prostejov training program when she was 16/17 years??

If she/ her father saw Miroslav Cernosek as the person who gave her the golden break at TK Prostejov when she moved from Fulnek then it is conceivable that she repaid that trust with letting him be her Manager & then let his sports marketing company Česká sportovní, a.s represent her. Naturally as its chairman, Cernosek becomes her defacto Marketing manager. This is an uncommon situation where the Manager & Marcoms Manager is the same person due to the incestuous relationships in Petra’s formative tennis career.

At last, her Management jigsaw is solved ….
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Great Work Bikez, & welcome to the Forum. Lots if new information came to light form this interview thanks to your translation skills.

To hear Petra say :"I got a lovely necklace from Mr. Cernosek, my manager from Prostejov ... ", was the missing piece in the jigsaw that I had been searching.

I recollected an interview that Petra did when she played at the Sparta Prague open 2011 where Dr. Miroslav Cernosek , Chairman of Česká sportovní, a.s. was a board member of the tournament.

Petra said "I have always trained at the TK Prostejov club, Mr. Cernosek is the owner there and he has always been good to me. He asked me to play a long time ago"

It closes the circle of how Miroslav Cernosek became her marketing manager as he owns Česká sportovní, a.s (Czech version of IMG) and also TK Prostejov.

So my initial hunches of Cernosek being a Czech oligarch seems correct given his political background, ownership of TK Prostejov & Česká sportovní, a.s. The question that remains unanswered at present is : what part did Dr. Miroslav Cernosek play in the admittance of Petra to the TK Prostejov training program when she was 16/17 years??

If she/ her father saw Miroslav Cernosek as the person who gave her the golden break at TK Prostejov when she moved from Fulnek then it is conceivable that she repaid that trust with letting him be her Manager & then let his sports marketing company Česká sportovní, a.s represent her. Naturally as its chairman, Cernosek becomes her defacto Marketing manager. This is an uncommon situation where the Manager & Marcoms Manager is the same person due to the incestuous relationships in Petra’s formative tennis career.

At last, her Management jigsaw is solved ….
Hey Moose.

It all depends on how loyal she feels to Cersonek, Czech Repub/Slovakia, local ties, potential outside partners and her contract????

Right now she's winning, so she's probably not thinking of it, unless she's getting robbed (compared to other agreements of her peers), cause of the apparent national loyalty she has.

The other question is, how long will she stay in Czech Republic? If she left that country (and him), even if he sued her, the reparations would be negligible (due to the country of income being some where else, her leaving him earlier-before she's really raking it in, and lack of political ties for Cersonek outside of Czech Republic/Slovakia, reducing judgment/litigation awards,if any).

But that's all neither here nor there, cause we don't know the intimate relationships, her loyalty to him and the country (which seems strong for now), and competing interest that will come her way.

Her father seems like a strong, righteous guys, but we don't know his political ties, debts or loyalties. I guess that's for the Czech's in the group to relate to us. But I'm not that sure if I want to get that deep into her career/management (unless she's being robbed of course). I'm a fan. But I'm not obsessed.

One can argue, that her playing that Cersonak backed challenger tournament in Prague was not conducive to her career goals (WTA points). But on the other hand, it was probably a needed break for her, considering she had won Madrid already, with the French Open coming up.

I used to be in the Sports Management/Entertainment business myself, and I've found that every individual beginning of a career, and country dynamics has it's particulars, loyalties, political ties, good guys, bad guys, contracts and skullduggery. In the beginning, it can be a mess and very complicated; unless you got the right people. She may already have that though!? I don't know. Czech Tennis players would know (Like Li Na knowing and challenging the Chinese system). Why you think so many players leave their home countries for Monaco, the US etc.? It's not just taxes many times? Lol.

I never dealt with the Czech Republic, so I guess we'll find out and see (or maybe not)?

Don't worry Moose, she's not the first person with interconnecting agreements like this (quite common to have these type of arrangements in the beginning of one's individual sports or entertainment career, especially when one is very talented, irregardless of the country of origin), later to be left behind, if it's not a good one to athlete/entertainer. It happens all the time. Hell! Petra's can even have a good one?

Enjoy The Tennis!!!!! Oh yeah. There's no Tennis now! Lol.

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