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No, really? Well, I have the best plum-vine connections. It´s actually quite tasty though in my opinion too sweet. I am going to give her a bottle next year then
Really? I have never drunk plum-wine, I didn't even know they make vine of plums. Here we make only brandy from plums but I don't like it because the plum-brandy is too smelly to me. So I wonder if I would like plum-vine but if Nastya likes it I should try, I'm sure she has a taste
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and I also don´t get why the reporter writes that at age 23 five relationships are not much
it'was Nastya who said that 3-5 b/f aren't too many fot a likeable girl at 23
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Really? I have never drunk plum-wine, I didn't even know they make vine of plums. Here we make only brandy from plums but I don't like it because the plum-brandy is too smelly to me. So I wonder if I would like plum-vine but if Nastya likes it I should try, I'm sure she has a taste
it'was Nastya who said that 3-5 b/f aren't too many fot a likeable girl at 23
My parents used to own a china-restaurant and we always gave out plum-vine for the guests after dinner. You should try it, it´s good...my friend and I drank a whole bottle lately.

Oh, 3-5...I see, yeah that´s a good number.
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The new Hingis: Myskina outsmarts Davenport
As an huge admirer of Martina, I just love this caption!!!

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"I just tell myself to shut up," Myskina said. "Today it really worked. Jens has a lot of courage and he understands how I feel on court. He never really gets mad at me. We talked before the match and I understand everything. But as soon as I go on court, the emotions go over me. Sometime it's hard to hold them inside."

Interesting how quotes change. Journalists should do their job right. And i guess she didn't yell shut the fuck up at Jens or the jumbo-tron.
Well, actually when she screamd those words in her match against Masha, it was very clear to whom it was adressed to...doesn´t matter anyway, obviously Herr Gerlach understands no matter what.
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I think the author mythologizes Hingis. I agree Martina was a much better volleyer and dogged competitor (till she lost to Capriati at AO) but not that her backhand was better or she was quicker than Nastya
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I think the author mythologizes Hingis. I agree Martina was a much better volleyer and dogged competitor (till she lost to Capriati at AO) but not that her backhand was better or she was quicker than Nastya
I still believe that Martina will make it back one day...

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Zurich QF: Hingis def. Myskina 6-0 6-4 (2000)
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And in that second match I think Hingis was leading 4-0 or 4-1 and 40-15 and Nastya came back and won.
Why is she more often in Martina's role now? Does the story repeat itself

I don't think Martina will follow the example of her namesake
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– Certainly, it is healthy, if near to you at this time there is a loving and favourite person. And if is not present
– I call to mum to be uttered. I like to lap long in a jacuzzi. Occasionally I allow itself to extend a glass of good beer slowly. Though my favourite alcoholic drink – the Chinese plam wine, but it only on the big holidays
HAHHA! JACUZZI. with sasha? rightt... i think chinese plum wine's too sweet. its funny. hahaha

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i thought russian's were more of the vodka drinkers??

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i thought russian's were more of the vodka drinkers??
As long as it´s alcoholic, it´s alright...worldly wisdom by Yee Wah

A friend of mine once presented me with original vodka he has bought on one of his business trips to russia...it was like drinking pure petrol ...tasty!

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And in that second match I think Hingis was leading 4-0 or 4-1 and 40-15 and Nastya came back and won.
Why is she more often in Martina's role now? Does the story repeat itself
LOL, yeah. Actually Hingis was the co-commentator during the FO-Final this year and she said that Nastya is a very hard player to win against...she still remembers that match, that´s nice...hehe...she also said that they getting along very well (well who doesn´t like Nastya?) and I think Nastya once said that she really likes Martina cause she´s the "sweetest girl"

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As long as it´s alcoholic, it´s alright...worldly wisdom by Yee Wah

A friend of mine once presented me with original vodka he has bought on one of his business trips to russia...it was like drinking pure petrol ...tasty!
Lol where has your friend bought that "original wodka" from? Maybe the prodducer has kept petrol in the distiller first.
I don't know which vodka do you call "original", there are many kinds of vodka but as a whole vodka has quite light scent compared to other alcoholic drinks. Of course there are fakes, but aren't there fakes of whisky either?


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Lol where has your friend bought that "original wodka" from? Maybe the prodducer has kept petrol in the distiller first.
I don't know which vodka do you call "original", there are many kinds of vodka but as a whole vodka has quite light scent compared to other alcoholic drinks. Of course there are fakes, but aren't there fakes of whisky either?


He said, he bought it at a very high price and he had millions of different bottles...I can drink everything without problems (56 % alc., just give it to me!), but that was...wow and yeah, just like you said, compared to the german "vodka" it didn´t have any taste at all, just pure alcohol. Fascinating!

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Tennis Magazin (German), published on 8th Nov 2003...I tried to translate everything as goog as I could, so...

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Feature: Mystical Myskina

Stressful weeks for Anastasia Myskina: tourneys in Filderstadt, Linz, Philadelphia, the master in L.A. As usual the players attend the players lounges. At the table next to us Martina Navratilova is eating pasta. Just a few steps down you´ll find Kim Clijsters and her father Leo sitting on crème-coloured sofas. Myskina has became one of the main attractions on the tour by now as well. It´s just that no one has noticed it though she´s in the top ten since this year´s beginning. At the end of september she won two very highly acclaimed tourneys in a row, Leipzig and Moscow.

Now that she´s succesful, does she feels like a star? Anastasia Myskina (22) smiles. Actually she smiles a lot. It´s not a superior smile, not a clarified smile, but more a shy one. The longer you talk to her, the faster you realize that she has nothing in common with fellow country-woman Anna Kournikova and the other latest export-success Maria Sharapova. Myskina seems to be rather conserved, thoughtful, a little bit mystical, but most of all she´s very polite. When you talk to her she permanently looks at you and she even waits patiently, when I had to check the recorder for a second time to make sure it´s really working.
So, is she a star? “No, definetly not”, she says in english with a slight russian accent. Coquetry? Understatement? When she beat Amelie Mauresmo in the final of her home-town tourney in Moscow, it was definetly a different image: Boris Jelzin rushed to the court to give Myskina a hug and the russian sports-station “Sport” sent out those pictures all over the world. On the next day she was even invited to the Kreml. It was Vladimir Putin who personally invited her over. It was a dream coming true for Myskina, who was actually a ballkid at the age of eight at that tourney.

Still, she doesn´t see herself as a sole act, but as a part of a groupe:”Russian sports-pros are very succesful at the moment – not only in tennis. I am just one of them.” She´s definetly right with that statement. Eight russians are currently in the Top 35 of the WTA-Tour – Elena Dementieve, Vera Zvonareva, Nadia Petrova…the reason for success? “We are all very ambitious and everyone tries to be better than the others”, says Myskina. At the end of the year, she was the best russian,


There´s not one russian who has more success…


Her biography is similar to all the other russians. At the age of six, Anastasia (“I was named after the grandmother of my father”) started her career at the famous Moscow Spartak Club, just 20 minutes away from the rented flat in which she lived with her father Andrey, an engineer and her mother Galina. Actually she still lives there when she´s back home in Moscow. Just like all the other young aspiring tennis players, she was coached by Raouza Islanova, the mother of Marat Safin. Well, coached is not exactly the right word, better say sharpened.


Coached by the mother of Marat Safin


“She was very strict, We had to hit balls for hours. She yelled at us, she screamed at us. But without her, there would be no tennis player called Myskina today.” For ten years Islanova was Myskina´s coach. Then she left for spain with her son Marat and her daughter Dinara, but Myskina stayed in the “Kournikova-factory”. “That´s bullshit,” Myskina suddenly says. She dislikes this label which the english yellow-press created. “Kournikova only played there for two/three years. Then she went off to America.” It seems like as if she dislikes her fellow country-woman, but this is not true:”She´s a nice person, but I don’t want to become like her.”

There was one moment when there was a similarity. She appeared for the Lifestyle-Magazine GQ in New York, naked on the back of a horse. You barely see anything, but still that pic would fit into the section “erotic stuff”. “Why wouldn´t you want to do it?”, the slim russian asks me, “the shots were fun.” It was Myskina´s first and up-to-date only contact with the show-biz. Being on court is definetly the thing which counts the most for her. Sometimes the easy, power-saving game and the perfect eye and the double-handed backhand of the 1,74 m tall woman reminds one a bit at Marcelos Rios. Robert Landsdorp (ex-coach of Pete Sampras and Lindsay Davenport) who sometimes worked with Myskina before the US-season started, once said:”She will never become a Top 5-player if she doesn´t hit harder and stand closer to the baseline.” It´s time for the great coach to rethink everything. In the final of Leipzig Myskina beat world number one Justine Henin-Hardenne mostly by using a lot of brilliant tactics.


A date in Florida


Landsdorp is irrelevant by now since she doesn´t need to go to California anylonger. The current coach is called Jens Gerlach, he´s German. They both met last spring in Florida. Gerlach, who once played for STG Geroksruhe in the second League (note by Yee Wah: never heard of that city ) and already coached the german player Bianka Lamade, was a student in Miami, he majored in Sports-Psychology (another note by me: you failed in all classes didn´t you?). In order to earn some extra money he offered himself to be a sparring-partner – one of the players he worked with was Anastasia Myskina. Interestingly she didn´t only have fun at their matches, but she started to become fascinated by the person as well. One day she asked him out for dinner (another note: woman asking man out… !). Eventually he said yes and since that day they are an item. It took a few more months though until he also became her coach, because they both had to convince Myskina´s strict father who was travelling with her all the time.

In the case if he wasn´t satisfied by that decision, he should be more than satisfied by now: With Gerlach being her coach, Myskina has won five out of her six tourney-wins. Now, after the long season 2003, she just wants to sleep (“During the season I just can´t relax”), to read (russian literature and criminal stories) and to play with her dog Gorde, a Scottish Setter.

She definetly deserves a rest. “Thank you so much”, Myskina says after our talk. Taking into consideration that she´s a tennis player, she´s remarkably polite and friendly.

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Great one Yee Wah, thanks!

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“She was very strict, We had to hit balls for hours. She yelled at us, she screamed at us.
Typical Nastya language She likes to build the sentence like that: s'he yelled at us, she screamed at us' ; 'she's so tall, she's so big' about Lindsay and could be many more examples

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“That´s bullshit,” Myskina suddenly says.
Loool, Nastya. She can also always suprise

Interesting about Jens that she asked him, but that's good she was brave, this relation is definitely one of the mostr helpful and good And I actually am not suprised why she did

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Lol Yee Wah 56% alcohol What do you drink -rum, tequila, some chinese brandy?
And we accuse decky of alcoholism
It seems the small Chinese girls are the biggest alcoholics in the world

Nice article. Nastya has invited Jens to dinner . She isn't so shy as it seems. Bad girl!
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Lol Yee Wah 56% alcohol What do you drink -rum, tequila, some chinese brandy?
And we accuse decky of alcoholism
It seems the small Chinese girls are the biggest alcoholics in the world

Nice article. Nastya has invited Jens to dinner . She isn't so shy as it seems. Bad girl!
What can I say? I just love alcohol...probably not as much as Decky (that´s impossible), but still I just enjoy good drinks once in a while

I love those articles concerning Nastya´s "weird", "troubled", "mystical","wise" mind. It seems like the reporters always like to discover her character. I still can´t believe that Matthew Cronin (see post by Fragrance) wrote that Nastya "can be simply nasty, in a Marquis de Sade way"...de Sade? I think it´s very nice to see her getting compared to famous persons who were of cultural and historical importance...but de Sade? He was a intelligent, thoughtful, but total mad freak, loved by some people, totally hated by others, who kinda like never found his place in the world. He wrote several pornographical books, received the death-penalty after some prostitutes accused him of having given them drugs in order to participate in pervert group-sex stuff and some other fun stuff. He had a deep troubled mind, but still some people admired him for being the individual person he was and his special intelligence to let the world appear in another view...the word "sadism" was created out of his name Sade ...yay, my studies actually have some sense!

Well...can you imagine Masha or Kuzi getting compared to "special" persons like him? Who would you rather being compared to? Mad freak, but culturally important de Sade or Barbie?

I think it was some guy from Eurosport who once asked her if she liked it that the media calls her Mona Lisa of Moscow (I think it fits)...well, she didn´t

Another nice article taken from the 2003 US Open website about Nastya during the rain delay...can´t paste it, cause I have saved it in PDF...how the heck can she eat at McDonald´s so late and play the next morning?!? Again, this is a Maquis de Sade-moment
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