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Volcanic Holocaust

OK...I found this article in the paper today, and it freaked me out....so if you get freaked out easily don't read on, found it fascinating. I don't know who does or doesn't know about it but guessing many Americans know of it already, but the first I had heard of it.

Volcanic Holocaust - Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Adrian Tame.

THE next great threat to the United States' world dominance may come, not from terrorism, but from deep within the majestic splendour of one of it's national parks.


A volcano, 40,000 years overdue for an eruption that could threaten mankind's future, lies smouldering beneath Yellowstone National Park.

A leading expert on hazards facing the planet has predicted it could blow at any time.

If and when it does, all life within an 800km radius would be destroyed, and the ash produced will block out the Sun, producing a form of much-feared nuclear winter that has the capacity to destroy mankind.

Even if the US survived the blast, there is little doubt it's period of global dominance would end, leaving the way open for another superpower, possibly China, to reign unchallenged.

While experts have plotted the likely environmental fallout from the eruption, the political ramifications have recieved less attention - perhaps because they are so unthinkable.

Professor Bill McGuire, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Center in London, said the dormant Yellowstone volcano had erupted on average once every 600,000 years.

The last eruption was 640,000 years ago, so the next one is overdue.

Experts monotoring seismic activity within the park became alarmed last year when the ground grew unusually hot and thermal springs became more volitile.

This led to a temporary closure of the park.

Experts called in to discover the causes of these phenomena found a 700m-long bulge beneath Lake Yellowstone.

They calculated it had already risen 30m from the lake floor, and could explode at any time.

Not long afterwards, the University of Utah detected an earthquake, measuring 4.4 on the Richter scale, 500m beneath Earth's surface, only 15km from the park.

The university believes this could be interpreted as the early signs of further seismic activity.

Unlike the volcanoes of Indonesia, the Yellowstone monster was discovered only recently.

Sattelite pictures taken in the 1960's showed a crater 80km long and 50km wide, crammed with molten rock.

The last comparable super volcano eruption was 75,000 years ago in sumatra. It's ash blocked out the sun for a considerable period, and, scientists believe, reduced the planets population to a few thousand.

More recent, smaller volcanoes have included Tamora, Indonesia, which killed 90,000 people in 1815, and Krakatoa, also in Indonesia, which killed 36,000 in 1883.

US geologist Michael Rampino has sounded a disturbing warning about Yellowstone: "It's not a question of when, because sooner or later one of these super eruptions will happen."

Professor McGuire echoed the warning saying: "1000 cubic kilometers of lava would pour out of the volcano - enough to coat the whole of the USA with a layer 10cm thick. The explosion would be the loudest noise heard by man for 75,000 years."

"There's nowhere to hide from the effects of a super volcano. One day, perhaps tomorrow, perhaps in 50 years, perhaps in 10,000 years, it will erupt, bringing the bitter cold of volcanic winter to planet earth. Mankind may become extinct."


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There was a very good tv documentary about this last year. There's also a submerged shelf that runs the length of the North Atlantic that could collapse any minute, causing a tsunami that would wipe out most of coastal Europe, North Africa and America's eastern seaboard.
Not to mention the long overdue impact from an asteroid.

Time the human race built up some good karma eh?

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Who cares? An asteroid could hit the Earth whenever and we'd all be dead. Or you could be sitting here reading this post when an earthquakes strikes that brings the roof down on you and you'd be dead. Or maybe you walk outside to get the mail and your neighbour shoots you because you raped his daughter and you'd be dead.

The point is, there are so many ways to die and so very little way of predicting when and how it'll come that there is absolutely no sense in worrying about it. Unless of course it's something you can control like high cholesterol or cigarette smoking, but I don't see any way of "baby-proofing" the Earth so I would suggest we all live while we still can.
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But if its an asteroid, then the asteroid should be big enought to be detected by human with those oversize telescope while theyre still far away. And we cant really stop it from coming to us, maybe build a super nuclear atomic freaking bomb n detonate it there, still found in movies thought, and it would be years till another big one hit us...

But this Volcano, it stuffs comes from the ground you are standing on, and they sed that it could blow up anytime, are you prepared for a big tsunami within a day or two. and if its this big, then I guess it could trigger some more volcanoes just underneath your ass...
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But if its an asteroid, then the asteroid should be big enought to be detected by human with those oversize telescope while theyre still far away. And we cant really stop it from coming to us, maybe build a super nuclear atomic freaking bomb n detonate it there, still found in movies thought, and it would be years till another big one hit us...

But this Volcano, it stuffs comes from the ground you are standing on, and they sed that it could blow up anytime, are you prepared for a big tsunami within a day or two. and if its this big, then I guess it could trigger some more volcanoes just underneath your ass...
"The point is, there are so many ways to die and so very little way of predicting when and how it'll come that there is absolutely no sense in worrying about it. Unless of course it's something you can control like high cholesterol or cigarette smoking, but I don't see any way of 'baby-proofing' the Earth so I would suggest we all live while we still can."
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Just for fun, here's a list of the 563 (currently known - more are discovered every year) 'Potentially Hazardous Asteroids'.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/

Comets are far harder to predict as they spend most of their time out in the darker reaches of the Solar System and don't show themselves until they are almost upon us.
That's an awful lot of stuff to keep an eye on!

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the us dominance will end eventually... but not from a fucking volcano in the middle of nowhere. a volcano this big would have an impact on the entire atmosphere... everyone would be suffering from it.

anyway, heres an article published by national geographic in 2001... minus the political wishful thinking bullshit.

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Will It Blow Again?

Until Smith came along, most scientists believed that hot spots originate 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) down, at the boundary between the Earth's core and mantle. The newly revealed geology of Yellowstone suggests that this hot spot might be very shallow, born of the vagaries of heat and changing pressures or some other process yet unknown.

As far as it goes, the scientists work has yet to answer the most important question of all: Will the volcano blow its top again?

New studies by a research team at the University of Wisconsin that analyzed tiny crystals within hardened lava suggest a "dying, but still potent, cycle of volcanism."

Some people believe that the hot spot is moving under the Rocky Mountains, a much thicker and colder part of the continent, and that it will be effectively capped. Others contend that the cap won't stop the fury of the hot spot.

Smith and Christiansen can't say for sure, but they know the volcano is not dead. There is no reason, they say, it won't blow again.

Christiansen doubts the likelihood of another cataclysmic eruption any time soon, but he doesn't rule out something smaller. Earthquakes, rock slides, and steam explosions from geyser basins are all possible. A blowout on the scale of Mount St. Helens is conceivable, he said, adding: "We need to be prepared."
link: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...llowstone.html


....This is fucked up, fucked up....

This is your blind spot, blind spot.
It should be obvious, but it's not.

You cannot kickstart a dead horse
You just crush yourself and walk away
I don't care what the future holds
Cause I'm right here in your arms today
With your fingers you can touch me

I'll be your black swan, black swan
I'm for spare parts, broken up.




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....This is fucked up, fucked up....

This is your blind spot, blind spot.
It should be obvious, but it's not.

You cannot kickstart a dead horse
You just crush yourself and walk away
I don't care what the future holds
Cause I'm right here in your arms today
With your fingers you can touch me

I'll be your black swan, black swan
I'm for spare parts, broken up.




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the us dominance will end eventually... but not from a fucking volcano in the middle of nowhere. a volcano this big would have an impact on the entire atmosphere... everyone would be suffering from it.

anyway, heres an article published by national geographic in 2001... minus the political wishful thinking bullshit.



link: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...llowstone.html
I have to agree decemberlove the article had an anti-american undertone to it, but I just wrote it as it was written. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.

Cheers

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I have to agree decemberlove the article had an anti-american undertone to it, but I just wrote it as it was written. I wasn't trying to offend anyone.

Cheers

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....This is fucked up, fucked up....

This is your blind spot, blind spot.
It should be obvious, but it's not.

You cannot kickstart a dead horse
You just crush yourself and walk away
I don't care what the future holds
Cause I'm right here in your arms today
With your fingers you can touch me

I'll be your black swan, black swan
I'm for spare parts, broken up.




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