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How Outdated is The Bible?

how outdated is the bible?i mean, i was just wondering. what are your thoughts on this. can soebody please give me reasons WHY you believe its outdated?besides that bit about homosexuality.

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It's not outdated, Not to Orthodox Christians or Christians for that matter, you have to decide yourself whether or not to partake in it's prophecy, People who don't have a relationship with God will find it Outdated because they have no interest or don't see sence in the Bible. This is when We as Christians need to Evangelacise together and spread the word of the gospel to people.
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Looking at Muslims and Jews, Ask one of them and they would not say their Talmud or Koran to be Outdated (Apart from Secular Denominations) Ask any ordinary European and they will might aswell say that Parts are, It does just go to show that a Stronger Relationship with the Lord and Jesus is in need!!
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you see rothes. u shoud be BANNED from this thread!

seriously though i disagree with what u said. i do believe in god. wholeheartedly. but not the rituals, like going to church. i mean, whats the point. its filled with a bunch of hypocrites anyway. what is the prophecy?

the only reason i have that the bible is outdated is the bit about homosexuality. i cant use that in an argument with my folks cuz i'm not gay. but lets look at this. in some cases homosexuality is genetic. god created everyone right?then how come there are a select few who are gay?how are people supposed to help themselves when it comes to attraction?(to the same or different sex)

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It's a historybook so it's supposed to be outdated.

That said people can still learn a lot from what Jesus said and the meaning of his stories of course.

Socrates and Plato are outdated too and still people read and learn from their work too.

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i do agree that there are plenty of things in there that are still totally not outdated, but i want to know about the topics that in those days were taboo but accepted today.

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Weeeell, you can always reinterpret holy books to bring them into line with modern science and social ideas.

If you mean when did it get into trouble, if taken literally, I'd say 1610.

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you see rothes. u shoud be BANNED from this thread!
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seriously though i disagree with what u said. i do believe in god. wholeheartedly. but not the rituals, like going to church. i mean, whats the point. its filled with a bunch of hypocrites anyway. what is the prophecy?
Church is the house of God, it's a place where you and other Christians can devote your time to God making that relationship much much stronger, It's a place of Solitude and Prayer where devoting as much time to God can be beneficial, Christians don't have to go to Church in order to become a Christian, they can practice solitary at home, or at work, they can practice with their family. And Church is not concentrated with Hypocrites It's filled with people who share the same relationship with God as you do, It's people who go to church as it is a duty to their faith in God, Many people go to church to reach through to God via the Priest or Bishop or Heiarchy of the Church, it is truly a wonderful experience :

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the only reason i have that the bible is outdated is the bit about homosexuality. i cant use that in an argument with my folks cuz i'm not gay. but lets look at this. in some cases homosexuality is genetic. god created everyone right?then how come there are a select few who are gay?how are people supposed to help themselves when it comes to attraction?(to the same or different sex)
Gods word was not meant to say that, There is people in our world who will make judgement out of something in order to contradict what the Bible tells us, It is usually flawed or that they know very little of what they are talking about, Don't listen to them they hate God!!!
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Weeeell, you can always reinterpret holy books to bring them into line with modern science and social ideas.

If you mean when did it get into trouble, if taken literally, I'd say 1610.
Then it wouldn't be deemed as Gods Word Right? Only someone elses words, and now I pull a "cult" out of my Black Majic Hat tada ! It's a Scientoligist and we can't forget the Kingdom Hall
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btw yes there is things In the Bible that can be questionable, So I am not completley brainwashed
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Good lord, reinterpretating the Bible in the way I described is exactly what the Catholic Church has done in the case of Galileo. From finding him "vehemently suspected of heresy" in the 1620s it has now apologized in the early 1990s for the way it treated him. It has also more or less adopted his doctrine of biblical interpretation, enunciated in his (privately circulated) Letter to Empress Christina. That's a doctrine about accommodating science, of course, but what I stated in my post was perfectly orthodox Catholic theology in that respect.

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ok people. instead of the lectures, which are actually quite eye-opening. can u please list down the things that ARE questionnable?thats what i want.

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But it's a problem, VCR. There are too many interpretations of the Bible, and too many theories as to how you should even go around interpreting it.

If you read it literally, it suggests that the sun goes around that the earth, that the world was created in about the year 4000 BC (depending on how exactly you add up the genealogies), that there was a flood all over the earth somewhat later with waters many thousands of feet high (high enough to cover Mt Ararat until the floods receded), etc, etc. Also, the various gospel accounts of Jesus life, taken literally, cannot be reconciled.

All this and more can be dealt with if you don't take it literally.

Greater problems are the support for genocide against the Canaanites, etc, and some of the very anthropomorphic ways God is depicted in the Old Testament (e.g. he enjoys getting drunk). Then there's Jesus claim that he would come again during the lifetime of his followers, which never happened.

But reinterpretation can explain any of this. Any sophisticated religion can adapt to those sorts of difficulties through reinterpretation.

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what i'm more interested in is why pple believe in certain religions and not others...

why isnt buddha as real a religion to the christians for instance?

A single flow'r he sent me, since we met./All tenderly his messenger he chose;
Deep-hearted, pure, with scented dew still wet - One perfect rose.
I knew the language of the floweret;/'My fragile leaves,' it said, 'his heart enclose.'
Love long has taken for his amulet/One perfect rose.
Why is it no one ever sent me yet/One perfect limousine, do you suppose?
Ah no, it's always just my luck to get/One perfect rose.
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ok leopard. tell me a few things that YOUinterpret in todays day that is seen as wrong in the bible.

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