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Braxton, Brandy, Monica, etc tried but it’s Beyonce who becomes the new Diana Ross

With millions in album sales, Grammys, more than a half-dozen hit singles, a blockbuster movie and A-list endorsements, it's hard to imagine how Beyonce’s star could get much brighter.

Yet with the release of her debut cd "Dangerously in Love" last summer — Beyonce’s first solo disc apart from the megagroup Destiny's Child — the 21-year-old is moving into a celebrity stratosphere so luminous even she's a bit nervous about it. It is a level of crossover stardom not seen by an African-American female singer since Diana Ross left The Supremes in the early 70’s.

In terms of sales and critical praise, Whitney Houston had a fantastic debut herself in 1984 but she didn’t create the media frenzy that has followed Beyonce in the past year.

Toni Braxton, Brandy, Monica and the late Aaliyah all had crossover chart success at various times and were MTV-friendly but none of them had a hit that was an international smash like “Crazy In Love” nor could they sizzle in live performances the way Beyonce has in 2003.

You really have to go back to Diana Ross to find an African-American female singer who generates as much buzz as Beyonce.

"It's getting worse," says Beyonce in her husky, Southern-accented voice. "Sometimes, the more movies I do and the more TV shows that I do, the more people obviously know me, and after the L'Oreal commercial — after all these wonderful opportunities, people recognize me more, so it's harder for me to go anywhere," she says.

"It takes getting used to, everywhere you go somewhere, you have to sign autographs or look a certain way to get pictures."

She' even became a one-named wonder: she simply uses the name Beyonce (pronounced BEE-yon-SAY) now.

"I think she's become the superstar that we all expected she would be," says Rick Krim, a vice president of VH1, which featured Beyonce on its recent "Divas" concert; her powerhouse performance of the ballad "Dangerously in Love" brought down the house.

Krim says Beyonce is reaching the level of a Jennifer Lopez, whose celebrity cuts across several different genres, including film and music.

"When you combine the musical talents and the success, you can spread that success to other movies," he says. "I think it just broadens your appeal and takes you to a whole another level."

Beyonce's stardom has long eclipsed that of her two group mates, Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland. Still, she insists that her solo career is just a brief diversion in the juggernaut that has become Destiny's Child, one of the most successful girl groups of all time. Their hits include the songs "Survivor," "Independent Women, Part I," and "Bootylicious," which gave the world a new way to describe a sexy, curvaceous woman.

"I'm going to do another Destiny's Child album, regardless if I sell no-million, one million, five million or however million," she says. "The only way I won't do it unless Destiny's Child is no longer friends — no other reason, but because I love them and I love being in the group."

While Beyonce says the material on her solo album is in part based on her own life, she remains mum on her romance with rapper Jay-Z.

"It's easier if you don't talk about it. I mean, people can say what they want. I'm not trying to deny anything — or confirm anything," she says. "I just want to feel like I've got something (private)."

With the focus getting even tighter on Beyonce, that may be a difficult task to keep up. But she'll keep trying.

"Those little things are important to me, and it's very important that I don't get so big that I can't do anything anymore," she says. "That's kind of a scary thing."
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Well I hope she doesn't turn into an alcoholic b^tch like Diana Ross....
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There is only one Diana Ross.
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How come people still call Diana Ross a star? She hasn't had any success in last two decades!

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Doesn't she touching every girl she saw on their boobs?

I mean Diana Ross
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Don't expect Brandy to go the stripping way anytime soon. And if memory serves me correctly, The Boy Is Mine was #1 longer than Crazy In Love. Brandy is every bit as talented, but she is a very quiet individual. The only reason Brandy didn't blow up more was because she kinda gave up on her music for acting for quite a while . Doing Cinderella, Double Platinum, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer...not mentioning the hit show Moesha . People need to stop comparing these people. They are individuals . I love you Bran

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Braxton, Brandy, Monica, etc tried but it’s Beyonce who becomes the new Diana Ross

With millions in album sales, Grammys, more than a half-dozen hit singles, a blockbuster movie and A-list endorsements, it's hard to imagine how Beyonce’s star could get much brighter.

Yet with the release of her debut cd "Dangerously in Love" last summer — Beyonce’s first solo disc apart from the megagroup Destiny's Child — the 21-year-old is moving into a celebrity stratosphere so luminous even she's a bit nervous about it. It is a level of crossover stardom not seen by an African-American female singer since Diana Ross left The Supremes in the early 70’s.
I don't cosign cuz Miss Whitney blew up back in the day. They sayin here "crossover" and Miss Whitney done crossed over to the point where brotha's and sista's was hatin on her corn ass songs that she was puttin out.

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In terms of sales and critical praise, Whitney Houston had a fantastic debut herself in 1984 but she didn’t create the media frenzy that has followed Beyonce in the past year.
Like I said Miss Whitney wa sellin mad a;lbums and havin mad hits and this was all o the pop chart. What Miss Bee is doin today aint new cuz both Miss Whitney and Miss Janet had mad "crossover" hits way way back in the day.

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Toni Braxton, Brandy, Monica and the late Aaliyah all had crossover chart success at various times and were MTV-friendly but none of them had a hit that was an international smash like “Crazy In Love” nor could they sizzle in live performances the way Beyonce has in 2003.
I cosign with that cuz Miss Bee know how to shake that ass and she can sing. The thing is Miss Toni, Miss Brandy and Miss Monica rolled in a diffrent way than Miss Bee so it aint fair to compare like that.

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Miss Bee (I aint hatin) is lucky cuz she out there at a time where RNB and hip hop is the ish. If this was 10 year ago Miss bee wouldnt even be blowin up like she did.

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"It's getting worse," says Beyonce in her husky, Southern-accented voice. "Sometimes, the more movies I do and the more TV shows that I do, the more people obviously know me, and after the L'Oreal commercial — after all these wonderful opportunities, people recognize me more, so it's harder for me to go anywhere," she says.

"It takes getting used to, everywhere you go somewhere, you have to sign autographs or look a certain way to get pictures."

She' even became a one-named wonder: she simply uses the name Beyonce (pronounced BEE-yon-SAY) now.

"I think she's become the superstar that we all expected she would be," says Rick Krim, a vice president of VH1, which featured Beyonce on its recent "Divas" concert; her powerhouse performance of the ballad "Dangerously in Love" brought down the house.

Krim says Beyonce is reaching the level of a Jennifer Lopez, whose celebrity cuts across several different genres, including film and music.

"When you combine the musical talents and the success, you can spread that success to other movies," he says. "I think it just broadens your appeal and takes you to a whole another level."

Beyonce's stardom has long eclipsed that of her two group mates, Michelle Williams and Kelly Rowland. Still, she insists that her solo career is just a brief diversion in the juggernaut that has become Destiny's Child, one of the most successful girl groups of all time. Their hits include the songs "Survivor," "Independent Women, Part I," and "Bootylicious," which gave the world a new way to describe a sexy, curvaceous woman.

"I'm going to do another Destiny's Child album, regardless if I sell no-million, one million, five million or however million," she says. "The only way I won't do it unless Destiny's Child is no longer friends — no other reason, but because I love them and I love being in the group."

While Beyonce says the material on her solo album is in part based on her own life, she remains mum on her romance with rapper Jay-Z.

"It's easier if you don't talk about it. I mean, people can say what they want. I'm not trying to deny anything — or confirm anything," she says. "I just want to feel like I've got something (private)."

With the focus getting even tighter on Beyonce, that may be a difficult task to keep up. But she'll keep trying.

"Those little things are important to me, and it's very important that I don't get so big that I can't do anything anymore," she says. "That's kind of a scary thing."
It's all good. Miss Bee is workin it and aint nobody can take that way from her.
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I love Beyonce, but she will never have the vocals like Whitney or Toni. She can sing well, but you cannot even compare her voice with the two because they are in a league of their own. And anyone with ears can hear the difference.

Also Toni never was "MTV Friendly". NEVER! Brandy and Monica were MTV friendly, and had huge hits. But the writer is correct when they say she is big for an r&b artist. Beyonce is a great all around entertainer, she can sing good(not great), she can dance great, and she's a great performer.

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well. the first night by monica, if memory serve me right, held the longest position at #1 in the billboards. AAMOF, the song that held the position longest before that was the boy is mine.

aaliyah may not have created as much of a buzz but in a time when hip hop was just becoming in, she DID come up with an international smash which IMO is better than crazy in love. TRY AGAIN people was just as big a hit. and she's a MUCH better actress than beyonce. and she can most definitely dance better. MUCH better. beyonce is lucky she got famous due to destiny's child. even then her stupid manager placed too much attention on her just cuz she was the daughter. kelly is the best singer of the three.

but props to beyonce cuz she did extensive research for crazy in love. she studied the olden music and fused them all together and came out witha terrific product.

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well. the first night by monica, if memory serve me right, held the longest position at #1 in the billboards. AAMOF, the song that held the position longest before that was the boy is mine.

aaliyah may not have created as much of a buzz but in a time when hip hop was just becoming in, she DID come up with an international smash which IMO is better than crazy in love. TRY AGAIN people was just as big a hit. and she's a MUCH better actress than beyonce. and she can most definitely dance better. MUCH better. beyonce is lucky she got famous due to destiny's child. even then her stupid manager placed too much attention on her just cuz she was the daughter. kelly is the best singer of the three.

but props to beyonce cuz she did extensive research for crazy in love. she studied the olden music and fused them all together and came out witha terrific product.

I have to agree with you about Aaliyah. IMO, Aaliyah never reached her pinnacle because she was less steamy and more mysterious. I think in POP you have to have men shouting you out as the,"ONE" that they want. The most beautiful, the most desirable woman, and that's the level Beyonce is on now.

Aaliyah was not the best singer, but she was a great performer, actress, dancer, and all around role model. She kept something to the imagination, and she was interesting . Very pretty and you never heard any diva moments ,but Aaliyah did not command male attention, neither did she seek it which seems to be a formula in the music industry that they willingly embrace.

Beyonce is great, but I'm being realistic. I wouldn't mind hooking up with B though.

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I have to agree with you about Aaliyah. IMO, Aaliyah never reached her pinnacle because she was less steamy and more mysterious. I think in POP you have to have men shouting you out as the,"ONE" that they want. The most beautiful, the most desirable woman, and that's the level Beyonce is on now.

Aaliyah was not the best singer, but she was a great performer, actress, dancer, and all around role model. She kept something to the imagination, and she was interesting . Very pretty and you never heard any diva moments ,but Aaliyah did not command male attention, neither did she seek it which seems to be a formula in the music industry that they willingly embrace.

Beyonce is great, but I'm being realistic. I wouldn't mind hooking up with B though.

UGHHHH I HATE YOU!!!! j/k You took the words right out of me!! I couldn't agree anymore because Aaliyah was more toned down and wasn't do hochi mamma dances and didn't need male attention to become sucessfull.
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yeah. beyonce relies heavily on sex...selling her body that is.

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