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The Greatest Novels of all-time

The BBC's Big Read poll to find the greatest novel of all-time revealed the top 21 today, as voted by the great British public (ahem)

A limit was set of one book per author...thus saving us from FOUR Harry Potter books making it...

The list..

1984, George Orwell

Birdsong, Sebastian Faulks

Captain Corelli's Mandolin, Louis de Bernieres

Catch 22, Joseph Heller

The Catcher in the Rye, JD Salinger

Great Expectations, Charles Dickens

Gone with the Wind, Margaret Mitchell

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, JK Rowling

His Dark Materials, Philip Pullman

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams

Jane Eyre, Charlotte Brontë

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, CS Lewis

Little Women, Louisa May Alcott

Lord of the Rings, JRR Tolkien

To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee

Pride and Prejudice, Jane Austen

Rebecca, Daphne du Maurier

War and Peace, Leo Tolstoy

The Wind in the Willows, Kenneth Grahame

Winnie the Pooh, AA Milne

Wuthering Heights, Emily Brontë

From that list, Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights and Rebecca leap out to me...plus an affection for the likes"The Hitchikers guide to the Galaxy" and loads of respect too for "1984".

There are a few I haven't read, including the Potter one...

Your choice from that list? Or thoughts on the list in general?

Maybe three or four would have made my own top 21...

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Gone With The Wind and Pride and Prejudice would make my list...but not the fourth harry potter book...the third and fifth were better, in my opinion. i liked 1984, but i don't think it's one of the best books ever.
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Toni Morrison's Beloved nor Richard Wright's Invisible Man are on this list.

This list is INVALID!!!!!
(Bronte is a nice choice, though).

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Im still fed up that NOTHING by the likes of HG Wells, Jules Verne or Victor Hugo made the top 100!

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...I wish people would get over the idea that you can discover the greatest anything by having a poll on it...
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I watched the programme. Pride and Prejudice & To Kill a Mockingbird are my faves on that list.

I agree with you Willow. Polls don't really prove anything, as it's not eveyone's opinion.
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Im still fed up that NOTHING by the likes of HG Wells, Jules Verne or Victor Hugo made the top 100!
HUGO! i loved The Hunchback of Notre Dame!
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1984 is definitely one of the greatest reads ever. so damn on point.


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Any poll is going to have too many kid's books but that's fine because the "expert" lists always snub them. But...

at Harry Potter.

Great Expectations is very good but it always makes lists simply because it's shorter than most other Dickens...

Catch 22 hasn't aged well.

War and Peace really is as phenomenal as its rep.
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yes, im really sick of seeing harry potter on the list. its just a trend. people 50 years from now will be laughing their asses off


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I saw a bit of this programme and saw them count down the top 10 books. I did not see it all though, does anyone know if 'Perfume' made the top 100? It should be in the top 21 . It is my favourite book


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War And Peace is shit....anyone care to explain to me what the purpose of that book was?

Wuthering Heights wasn't bad, but it wasn't epic either.


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I hate 1984 beacause I studied it for O-level (what became GCSE shortly after the Jurassic era) and being forced to analyse a book like that will put you right off it.

It's a bit of a stuffy list really, with the obvious exception of The Hitchiker's Guide ~ and a couple of the children's books but not C.S. Lewis; he's terribly dour, all that pseudo-religious nonsense.
And authors like Thomas Hardy, James Joyce and D.H. Lawrence all wrote better than J.K. Rowling.

Well, you asked for people's thoughts....

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War And Peace is shit....anyone care to explain to me what the purpose of that book was?
Yeah. Seeing that reminded me of a list published a couple of years ago of the 'best novels of the C20th'.
Top of that poll was Joyce's epic, Ulysses and one critic, commenting on the list, asked "I wonder how many of the people who voted for it had actually read it all the way through?"

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I'm surprised that The Lord of the Rings didn't win. It usually wins such polls.

This is a pretty dumb outcome. There's not much doubt in my mind that the greatest novel of all time is The Brothers Karamazov by Feodor Dostoyevsky, but it's not a book most general readers would tackle. What I see here are a lot of popular novels and a lot of pretty good short novels that are widely read because they are popular choices as high-school texts (e.g 1984).

If you confined it to people who have read widely beyond recent best-sellers and school texts, you'd get a very different result.

OTOH, some literary snobs whine every time The Lord of the Rings does well in one of these polls. In fact, LOTR really is a great book. Literary snobs have no understanding of what makes an adventure book like that great.

My own list would include works by Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Cervantes, Rabelais, Joyce, Dickens, Henry James, George Eliot, Flaubert, Melville, D.H. Lawrence, Marquez, etc, but would also include some fantasy and science fiction writers such as Tolkien, Frank Herbert (Dune), Heinlein (Stranger in a Strange Land), E.R. Eddison (The Worm Ouroboros), William Gibson (Neuromancer), Ursula Le Guin (The Dispossessed), Wells, Verne, etc, etc.

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