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Thumbs down THG steroid scandal - No news of big names yet

http://sports.yahoo.com/sa/news?slug...v=ap&type=lgns

U.S. Anti-Doping Agency says it found steroid 'conspiracy'

By ROB GLOSTER, AP Sports Writer
October 17, 2003

An anonymous tipster. A used syringe filled with a mysterious substance that arrives by overnight courier at a drug lab. Enough secrets to fill a good spy novel.

The latest scandal to hit track and field involves a designer steroid and could lead to the disqualification of several U.S. athletes from the 2004 Athens Olympics.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Thursday that several track athletes tested positive in late June for the steroid known as tetrahydrogestrinone, or THG, that until recently was undetectable.

Those athletes now face two-year suspensions.

USADA chief executive officer Terry Madden called it a widespread "conspiracy'' involving chemists, coaches and athletes that was brought to the agency's attention by an anonymous tip.

"I know of no other drug bust that is larger than this involving the number of athletes involved,'' said Madden, who refused to reveal the names or genders of the athletes, or to be more specific about how many had tested positive.

Madden said the inquiry began in early June and expanded to other U.S. professional sports, but wouldn't give specifics. He said he believes international athletes also have used the steroid, which is taken by putting a couple of drops from a syringe under the tongue.

"What we have uncovered appears to be intentional doping of the worst sort,'' Madden said in a statement before a conference call from USADA headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colo. "This is a far cry from athletes accidentally testing positive as a result of taking contaminated nutritional supplements.''

Olympic athletes face drug tests at major competitions, as well as random testing between events. Their samples are divided in two and stored for future reference.

The athletes whose "A'' samples revealed THG have been notified and will now have their "B'' samples tested. If those also are positive, a review process will begin. Appeals could last for months.

THG has a chemical structure similar to two banned anabolic steroids, Madden said, but was tweaked to avoid detection. Though THG is not specifically named as a banned substance in world track, it would be considered a related substance outlawed under the sport's doping rules.

"This is a serious warning for cheaters,'' said Dick Pound, chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency. "It shows that supposedly undetectable substances can be detected as new tests are developed.''

Madden said the USADA received a call from a man in June claiming to be a track coach. The caller named athletes he claimed were using a steroid that wouldn't be detected by tests then being used by the USADA. The man later sent the agency a syringe containing the substance, Madden said.

After determining the syringe contained THG, the USADA retested 350 urine samples taken from athletes at the U.S. track and field championships in June at Stanford, as well as 100 samples from random out-of-competition tests on track athletes and 100 random samples from non-track athletes.

Madden said the USADA, acting with extreme secrecy while it conducted the tests, contacted federal authorities with the findings.

The anonymous tipster, Madden said, identified the source of the THG as Victor Conte, founder of BALCO laboratory of Burlingame, Calif. The lab supplies nutritional guidance and supplements to athletes ranging from Barry Bonds to Bill Romanowski to Marion Jones.

"Everything that the coach has identified to us up to this time is true. We are fairly certain this substance came from Victor Conte and BALCO labs,'' said Madden, refusing to be specific.

But Conte, in an e-mail Thursday to The Associated Press and other news organizations, said BALCO was not the source of the substance.

"In my opinion, this is about jealous competitive coaches and athletes that all have a history of promoting and using performance enhancing agents being 'completely hypocritical' in their actions,'' Conte said.

Agents from the Internal Revenue Service and a San Mateo County narcotics task force went to BALCO last month. No arrests were made, and IRS spokesman Mark Lessler wouldn't comment on the unannounced visit.

As part of the retesting of the samples from the U.S. track championships, Madden said, officials discovered several positive tests for the stimulant modafinil -- which sprinter Kelli White says she took for the sleep disorder narcolepsy.

White tested positive this summer at the world championships in France for modafinil, and it could cost her a pair of sprint gold medals. Her case is being reviewed by the USADA.

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wanna bet that no name will be made public and no one will get a suspension?

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wanna bet that no name will be made public and no one will get a suspension?
I thought as much when I heard about it.

The Americans have a "special" relationship with doping.
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wanna bet that no name will be made public and no one will get a suspension?
No But this looks very big.

The informer was inside and they say "Everything that the coach has identified to us up to this time is true."

Also "I know of no other drug bust that is larger than this" (le Tour got pretty heavy number couple years back, 50 or so ?)

550 tests (100 non track and field). What % of cases can we expect, if ever revealed ? 10 at least, 20 ? 30 ? Even more ?

Usual strike rate is around 2%, this must be much bigger as athletes had no idea that design drug can be seen in tests.

Low estimate (10%) - 55 caught, 10 other than track and field
High estimate (20%) - 110 caught, 20 other than track and field

If they want to get rid of problem they do it now. If not, then they never will get better chance.
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No But this looks very big.

The informer was inside and they say "Everything that the coach has identified to us up to this time is true."

Also "I know of no other drug bust that is larger than this" (le Tour got pretty heavy number couple years back, 50 or so ?)

550 tests (100 non track and field). What % of cases can we expect, if ever revealed ? 10 at least, 20 ? 30 ? Even more ?

Usual strike rate is around 2%, this must be much bigger as athletes had no idea that design drug can be seen in tests.

Low estimate (10%) - 55 caught, 10 other than track and field
High estimate (20%) - 110 caught, 20 other than track and field

If they want to get rid of problem they do it now. If not, then they never will get better chance.
we thought that during that tour too(it was in 1998) "now's the chance" but nothing happened...but it was not near 50 people you know

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too true

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This from http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2003/1016/1639608.html

(shortened version as most were on that cover story)

As many as 40 track athletes face subpoenas

By Shaun Assael
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Three track and field athletes who flunked drug tests have been subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury that is investigating whether a prominent San Francisco nutritionist has links to what one anti-doping official calls "an international doping conspiracy," ESPN has learned.

The three athletes were tested at the U.S. Track & Field Nationals in Palo Alto, Calif., in June. The results were reported in the last several weeks. One of the athletes was a client of Balco Labs, the supplement and nutrition company run by Victor Conte. The controversial nutritionist boasts of a roster of professional and Olympic sports stars as customers.

As many as 40 other athletes also may have received subpoenas, according to a source close to the case, who added: "The names I've heard are some of the biggest names in sports." On Thursday, anti-doping official Terry Madden, director of the U.S Anti-Doping Agency, identified Conte as the alleged supplier of the previously undetected steroid THG, which was detected in the three athletes. Conte issued a denial.


If those words in bold have backing, other sports will "suffer" as well
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This from http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2003/1016/1639608.html

(shortened version as most were on that cover story)

As many as 40 track athletes face subpoenas

By Shaun Assael
ESPN the Magazine

Three track and field athletes who flunked drug tests have been subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury that is investigating whether a prominent San Francisco nutritionist has links to what one anti-doping official calls "an international doping conspiracy," ESPN has learned.

The three athletes were tested at the U.S. Track & Field Nationals in Palo Alto, Calif., in June. The results were reported in the last several weeks. One of the athletes was a client of Balco Labs, the supplement and nutrition company run by Victor Conte. The controversial nutritionist boasts of a roster of professional and Olympic sports stars as customers.

As many as 40 other athletes also may have received subpoenas, according to a source close to the case, who added: "The names I've heard are some of the biggest names in sports." On Thursday, anti-doping official Terry Madden, director of the U.S Anti-Doping Agency, identified Conte as the alleged supplier of the previously undetected steroid THG, which was detected in the three athletes. Conte issued a denial.


If those words in bold have backing, other sports will "suffer" as well
I don't think anything will come from it. It's always the same in the USA.
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Not just the USA, unfortunately.

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Actually, the development of the drug was financed by the noted substance abuse expert Rush Limbaugh, so @ age 52 he could finally make the NFL, sack Donovan McNabb, and tell the press "I told everybody he was overrated"!
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So 40 "elite" athletes who have been subpoenaed to testify as witnesses before a federal grand jury.

Only know handfull of names so far. Kelli White (says that she passed the test) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Oct17.html , Kevin Toth and Barry Bonds

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They raided the home of Marion Jones which I assume would be a shared residence with Tim Montgomery, so it's probably safe to add them to the list.

This is completely different from other doping scandals because the U.S. Justice Department is involved, treating this as an illegal drugs case; it's kind of out of the hands of the notoriously corrupt USTAF.
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I thought as much when I heard about it.

The Americans have a "special" relationship with doping.

Is that the same kind of relationship as the Germans or the Chinese??

Keep fooling yourself if you think "doping" is only a problem of the US.

Or wait are you one of those people who think US=bad, currupt; everyone else = pure and prestine?
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