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Unhappy From CNN, Fat Phobia Study Reveals Weighty Attitudes

Fat phobia study reveals weighty attitudes

Tuesday, October 14, 2003 Posted: 3:13 PM EDT (1913 GMT)

FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (AP) -- While it is no surprise that people often have a low opinion of the overweight, a new study finds that just standing next to a large person can be bad for one's image.

The experiment, conducted in England, demonstrates the depths of stigmatization endured by heavy people: It even rubs off on their friends.

Trying to combat discrimination against the overweight is a topic of discussion at this week's meeting in Fort Lauderdale of the North American Association for the Study of Obesity, the field's top professional organization.

Even here, though, another study suggests that obesity specialists themselves may harbor subtle, if unintentional, negative attitudes toward their patients.

"Weight stigma is powerful, pervasive and destructive," said Marlene Schwartz, a Yale psychologist.

In the English study, psychologist Jason Halford and colleagues from the University of Liverpool tested 144 female students' reactions to two prom photos. One showed a dapper, thin young man standing next to a svelte ringlet-haired woman. The other was the same photo altered to show the guy arm-in-arm with a very large, nicely dressed woman.

The volunteers took a quick look at one or the other of the pictures and then were asked their opinion of the man. They rated him from 1 to 5 on 50 negative adjectives -- called the "fat phobia scale" -- that people often use to describe obese people.

The man with the big woman was rated 22 percent more negatively than the same man with the thin companion. When seen with the large woman, he was more likely to be described as miserable, self-indulgent, passive, shapeless, depressed, weak, insignificant and insecure.

"It shows that people project negative attitudes associated with obesity not only on the obese but all those who associate with them," Halford said.

The study also found that students who were themselves overweight were more likely than usual to rate the man harshly when pictured with the obese partner.

At the same obesity meeting two years ago, researchers give a word quiz, called an implicit association test, to about 200 obesity professionals. The test, intended to measure bias, asks people to quickly link up words like "lazy," "stupid" and "worthless" on command with obese or thin people.

The results, described at this year's meeting, showed that obesity professionals were more apt to link the negative words with overweight people, even when trying not to.

"These are unconscious attitudes," said Heather Chambliss of the Cooper Institute in Dallas.

Carol Johnson of Milwaukee, a large woman who heads a support organization called Largely Positive, told the conference that overweight people are often discriminated against by doctors, who ascribe all their problems to weight and sometimes withhold standard treatments, like blood pressure pills, that they freely prescribe to thin patients.

"Society wants no fatties," Johnson said.

Rebecca Puhl of Yale said bias against the large begins early in life. Studies show that even preschoolers are more likely to describe overweight playmates as mean, ugly or stupid.

She said overweight people are less likely to get into college, less likely to get hired and more likely to get fired.

"Expressing negative attitudes toward obese people has become an acceptable form of bias," she said.
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Rebecca Puhl of Yale said bias against the large begins early in life. Studies show that even preschoolers are more likely to describe overweight playmates as mean, ugly or stupid.
This friend of mine from elementary school... she was BIG girl - the biggest in the school, easily. From Kindergarten she got taunted mercilessly... later on people claimed that they "hated" her because she was "a bitch"... yet they were totally unwilling to accept responsibility for the fact that she was "a bitch" due to the years of torment they had put her through.

I'm no innocent either... I'm sure there were times that I didn't want to hang out with her because of what everybody was saying, etc. I don't believe I ever tried to make myself feel superior to her just because I happened to luck out in the gene pool... but I suppose I have my parents to thank for that attitude. Though I'm sure at some unconscious level I may have had those feelings ...

Anyways.... interesting - though somewhat unfortunate, yet not surprising - study, apoet. Thanks for sharing it
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My sister and brother are overweight and they have been through some terrible things because of that. Unfortunately, kids can be cruel to others, and as a result, everyone suffers. I am hoping that studies can force a shift in public opinion, but I am not holding my breath on that.
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This phobia makes perfect sense. If, for instance, airlines would make passengers pay fat people double fare or in proportion of their own weight, I would be the one to applaud.
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This phobia makes perfect sense. If, for instance, airlines would make passengers pay fat people double fare or in proportion of their own weight, I would be the one to applaud.
I do hope that you're just baiting here...
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i have nothing against obese people. my only wish is that they would exercise as much as they ate cos some of them looking terribly unhealthy.
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This phobia makes perfect sense. If, for instance, airlines would make passengers pay fat people double fare or in proportion of their own weight, I would be the one to applaud.
Just when I was beginning to like you . . .
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I do hope that you're just baiting here...
Well, Becca, very fat people are dsigusting visually. It's not politically correct to say that, but almost everyone thinks so, and it is not even about thinking, it is about feeling.
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I've always been a big guy, even when i was a lil king satan. i never let ppl make fun of my weight, and when they did, a punch in the mouth is all it took to make them stop
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Well, Becca, very fat people are dsigusting visually. It's not politically correct to say that, but almost everyone thinks so, and it is not even about thinking, it is about feeling.
"Fat" women used to be the ideal. I guess they weren't considered so visually digusting back in the day, huh? Of course you feel that way, as do most (and I'm not excluding myself, or trying to put myself on another level here... I'm no better than anybody else) in our culture... but if our culture was different we would view heavy people differently. Unfortunately you can't just roll out of bed and change the entire culture one day... trust me, if I could I would
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"Fat" women used to be the ideal. I guess they weren't considered so visually digusting back in the day, huh? Of course you feel that way, as do most (and I'm not excluding myself, or trying to put myself on another level here... I'm no better than anybody else) in our culture... but if our culture was different we would view heavy people differently. Unfortunately you can't just roll out of bed and change the entire culture one day... trust me, if I could I would
It would be much easier to make them work out.
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It would be much easier to make them work out.
I have friends who you would likely consider "fat" that are very physicall active.... but you're just baiting, so I refuse to seriously get into this with you
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Were "fat" women really an ideal for the majority of men or is it just a myth?

I don't think very fat people are disgusting, however I would tend to think most people no matter the culture would prefer by far a normal body than a "very fat" one.
It's not a myth.... heavier women were considered to be more fertile, more likely to survive through harsh conditions, blah blah. Somebody else could give you the correct explanation, but that is the basic idea

The idea of "normal body weight" is defined by your culture... for example, what is considered sexy now, was not considered sexy forever and a day ago. Somebody the size of Marilyn Monroe is hardly the "ideal" now, but she was quite something in her time...
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I have friends who you would likely consider "fat" that are very physicall active.... but you're just baiting, so I refuse to seriously get into this with you
tha's the way i am. i play a lot of sports (always have) but i'm just a big guy. i mean, i'm not obese or anything....but i'm a chubby guy what can i do about it? nothing. that's just the way god made me.

I think girls with meat on them can be very sexy!
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tha's the way i am. i play a lot of sports (always have) but i'm just a big guy. i mean, i'm not obese or anything....but i'm a chubby guy what can i do about it? nothing. that's just the way god made me.

I think girls with meat on them can be very sexy!
This summer when i started biking all the time (my only means of transportation to work), I lost a lot of my excess weight - it's worth noting I didn't have that much in the first place. Anyways... I actually miss most of it
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