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The First Female President of the United States Wll be Elected in 2008

Not 'might'. Will. Here's the scenario.

Bush Jr is moving his own people into the power spots in the administration, downgrading the old guard. Condi Rice is in charge in Iraq now, instead of Donald Rumsfeld. Colin Powell always intimated he was a one term Sec'y of State. Richard Armitage is likely to take over that spot.

So what's any of that have to do with the Presidency in 2008.

One of the 'old guard' who's often not exactly 'on message' with the President is the Vice-President. Even after Bush Jr, Rice and Powell all said bluntly, 'we have NO information that Saddam Hussein was involved inthe Sept 11th attacks, Cheney was still trying to make the case.

I think 2nd term, Bush Jr goes for a new Vice-President, and Cheney goes back to Halliburton, who's still paying him anyway. So who's going to be the new VP? Well, who does Bush Jr trust COMPLETELY, who works out fornt, not behind the scenes?

Condi Rice.

So I figure a Bush(el of)-Rice trounces whatever the Democrats offer. Then, in 2008, Bush Jr can't run again.

Who's the likely Republican nominee? Rock-ribbed Conservative, ultra smart, totally trusted by the Republican Establishment and the sitting VP.

Condi Rice.

Who's the likely Democratic nominee? The biggest star in the party who didn't get caught lying to the American people, and their #1 fund raiser.

Hillary Clinton.

So there you have it. Conservative Republicans backing a black woman for President, while the Democrats are backing a Southerner who favors the death penalty. limits on welfare, and voted in favor of the war in Iraq.

Also, Dogs will lie down with cats, there will be a worldwide plague of locusts, and there will be a total eclipse of the sun on election day.

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Condi Rice has no chance at all. She and Powell are two voiceless puppets in Bush administration, having no influence whattsoever. Well, Bush is a puppet himself, so , in a sense, maybe..

Hillary - yes, I'll vote for her, she was a sexy lady.
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Unless the Dems get their act together for 2004, I'm writing "Hill's" name in anyway. In 2008, I'm definitely voting for her.

Clearly, she'll be running against Jeb Bush from Florida.

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Republicans will NEVER nominate a black woman. Black members or the Republican party are rather crazy, IMO. The Republican party is a white-man's party.

I'm not convinced that the Democrats will lose in 2004, have you seen Bush's approval ratings lately? I don't think Clinton even went that low.

Hopefully Hillary will join the 2004 field, because if a Democrat wins in 2004, she would have trouble getting the nomination from them in 2008.

If Bush does get re-elected, and Hillary does (of course) run in 2008, I'm thinking that she'll handily defeat any Bush croney and be our first woman president. I don't like her as a person really, but I like her policies and I want a woman president.


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Condi Rice has no chance at all. She and Powell are two voiceless puppets in Bush administration, having no influence whattsoever.
Well, there are two sentences showing VAST depths of ignorance.

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I'm not convinced that the Democrats will lose in 2004, have you seen Bush's approval ratings lately? I don't think Clinton even went that low.

Hopefully Hillary will join the 2004 field, because if a Democrat wins in 2004, she would have trouble getting the nomination from them in 2008.
Of course, Democrats will win in 2004. That is not even disputable. Economy will not recover by then, and Iraq will be completley radicalized and will go to Islamic hell by then.
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Also, Dogs will lie down with cats, there will be a worldwide plague of locusts, and there will be a total eclipse of the sun on election day.
Thanks for the warning Volcana. I'll be sure to prepare

*goes to have dog and cat spayed and neutered, buy locust repellant and extra strong window screens, and makes plans to build a nuclear generator in the basement to power the house*

but how do I prepare for this female president? Maybe I should buy a bra and burn it in my front yard

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Republicans will NEVER nominate a black woman.
Nobody thought the Brits would ever nominate a woman for Prime Minister. But when Margaret Thatcher came along, every in her party got out of the way, because she was smarter and tougher than them and everybody knew it. Condi's been Bush's intellect since he ran for governor of Texas. She's loyal, nasty, tough and conservative. If Bush says, 'she's who [i]Ip/i] want as the next President', they'll nominate her. Not to get too technical, but a sitting President in the USA pretty much controls his political party. Not necessarily officially, but because the President is virtually always the best fund raiser for the political party, he can just refuse to help his internal opposition, and back others to replace them in the party hierarchy.

Because the President has a lot of control over fund-raising, he de facto has a lot of control over who the delegates are the Republican Convention. That's who nominates the President and VP candidates. If he wants Condi, he can keep all but a token number of the opposition out of the Convention. Remember, Condi's been with him longer than almost anyone else in the administration. Any fight over Bush's loyalty ends in Condi's favor. Anyone he hear's slandering her is gonna get a HARD slap down. If you've been reading the papers, you've seen how nasty the Bushies can be.

Also, the fight over the next President will be fought when they name the new VP-to-be next summer. Because everyone knows the new VP is the heir-apparent. The Republican Party in the USA is designed to be orderly, with power accruing to the top. If Condi gets to VP in the first place, they'll nominate her for President.

The Republican Convention is inless than a year.

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Pres. Rice is the correct answer.

You dumb asses talking about what puppets the blacks in the administration are...

...says more about you than about the Republican party.

Dubya for all his flaws has put more minorities in higher positions of power than any liberal ever did.

Put up or shut up, "enlightened ones". Your version of politics seems to indicate that any black who doesn't agree with your politics is what?

A puppet? A token? Just window dressing?

Now who sounds like the ignorant, right wing assholes?

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I would have a very difficult time deciding who to vote for in a Rice vs Clinton election.

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Well, either way, at least we get a smart President. Eight years of Bill Clinton kinda spoiled me, but Bush Jr is more of a focus and passion guy. Unlike his Dad, his has 'the vision thing'. But he isn't the equal of either Clinton, or Carter, Nixon or LBJ as an intellect. Not that being super smart is a job requirement for the President. We've had President's who were nowhere near the greatest intellects of their generation from first to present. I just, personally, find great intelligence a comforting thing. Especially in the person with titular ontrol of the most devastating military force in recorded history.

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Pres. Rice is the correct answer.

You dumb asses talking about what puppets the blacks in the administration are...
I don't know why are they chosen to play completely secondary roles to Ramsfeld and Cheney, while having the position which are traditionally the most influential in foreign policy.

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...says more about you than about the Republican party.

Dubya for all his flaws has put more minorities in higher positions of power than any liberal ever did.
Oh yeah, Affirmative Action, clap-clap-clap.

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Put up or shut up, "enlightened ones". Your version of politics seems to indicate that any black who doesn't agree with your politics is what?
In fact, the "position" of Powell - who was opposed to war in Iraq is closer to mine than of those two other neocon lunatics. And Rice makes an impression of an intelligent thinking person. The more susrprising is that they agreed to be puppets in this game led by neocons, perhaps for team unity sake.

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A puppet? A token? Just window dressing?

Now who sounds like the ignorant, right wing assholes?

That's right, you do!!!
Now we are talking on our true intellectual level.
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Yeah right. I hope one gets elected in my lifetime though. I am 19 BTW. lol

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id take rice over clinton anyday.

clinton is a smart woman but she rides the coattails of bill too much. i dont like it. be independent and speak something that you believe in rather than waiting for your husband to say it and then regurgitating it.


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