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reform gun law in the states

just what the title says...............
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post #2 of 81 (permalink) Old Sep 14th, 2003, 08:45 PM
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America has needed to change its gun laws since the beginning of the 20th century.

There is no earthly reason why any private citizen needs an assault rifle or an assault-style rifle,whether it fires fully automatically or in just semi-automatic mode.

Such weapons are designed for one purpose and that is to kill other human beings.

In my mind, firearms have no place in society at all,and should be restricted to police or military use
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I have no problems with people owning guns or hunting rifles (my great-grandfather used to own both), but why the hell do people need to own assault rifles? Those type of weapens onlyl need to be owned by the police and military.
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After MLK and Bobby Kennedy were killed in '68, they were "reformed". Except that by the time the gun lobby's money and power had spoken, the reforms were nearly meaningless. Even the famous "Brady Bill" sparked by the attack on Ronald Reagan is (I hate to use a pun, but it fits here) "shot full of holes".
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After Columbine (sp?) things should have changed! I'm not sure what came of it, but I don't think the laws changed.
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the free availability of guns in the states contributes to a gun-culture that endangers its citizens rather than protecting them.

yetunde price is yet another victim............
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Nope. They didn't. The movie "Bowling for Columbine" is an interesting look at this problem in America, although I think the theory developed there is unsound.
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...whenever this sort of thing happens you get the usual retards coming out with the same old guns-don't-kill-people-people-do crap...apparently these people really do believe the Columbine massacre would still have happened if they'd used baseball bats or frozen turkeys...
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fuck that.

we are already close enough to 1984 as it is. esp since bush plans to give more control to police to fight "terrorism"

no thank you.


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fuck that.
we are already close enough to 1984 as it is. esp since bush plans to give more control to police to fight "terrorism"
This is the so-called "slippery slope" arguement that was set aside decades ago with the famous words from the US Supreme Court that "...freedom of speech doesn't include the right to yell fire in a crowded theatre". Yes, state power can be abused. However last night in Compton 3 guys "elected themselves" judge, jury, and executioner, it seems.
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I just want to understand why any human being feels the need to walk around with a semi automatic weapon...


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This is the so-called "slippery slope" arguement that was set aside decades ago with the famous words from the US Supreme Court that "...freedom of speech doesn't include the right to yell fire in a crowded theatre". Yes, state power can be abused. However last night in Compton 3 guys "elected themselves" judge, jury, and executioner, it seems.

oh please, JR, stop being such a drama queen.

this happens all the time, people die with or without guns all the time. and people are just NOW opening their eyes and pulling their heads out of their all tennis, no reality asses cos two famous tennis players sister was killed? thats really fucking sad.


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I dont know why this thread was moved.

The death of yetunde price is not a "WTA event". It is a tragedy, period. But not a tennis tragedy. Its the direct result of a sad US gun culture. Why allow the event to be discussed in the general forum, but not allow the readers to explore its cause.

bad admiin, IMO
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DL, I'm not the one who needs a "celebrity angle" to address real-life issues. Example: I "preach" about sweatshops re. what players wear and its largely ignored. If a celebrity (esp. a big tennis player) died locked inside one like "ordinary people" sometimes are, THEN it would first be treated like a serious issue here!
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DL, I'm not the one who needs a "celebrity angle" to address real-life issues. Example: I "preach" about sweatshops re. what players wear and its largely ignored. If a celebrity (esp. a big tennis player) died locked inside one like "ordinary people" sometimes are, THEN it would first be treated like a serious issue here!
When an event that connects with a celebrity occur, its an opportunity to encourage public awareness and generate debate to encourage people to think about the underlying issues.
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