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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old Jul 30th, 2003, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Question Assisted Suicide: For or Against

This is a question that has been up in the air for a while. After watching the movie about Sue Rodriguez, a women with an incurable disease that causes her to be paralysed, unable to swallow, etc, it really made me think. Here is a link about her story...

http://www.newsworld.cbc.ca/flashback/1993/index.html

Read the whole thing before saying anything.

I'm totally for it. If someone doesn't have a life after an accident or an incurable disease and is so sad and depressed, they should be allowed to go. And if they can't do it themselves, then I think it should be legal that a doctor(not anyone else! That would prevent dumbasses to kill saying it was to help somebody). We do it for dogs because we don't want them to suffer but we don't do it for humans??? Come on!

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So, you mean euthanasia?
Assisted suicide sounds so bad IMO.

I'm pro-euthanasia because noone has the right to force people to suffer or lose all or most of their life quality.
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Pro-euthanasia, obviously with properly thought out guidelines.
I agree with you R_4_E, it's strange that we would not hesitate to put a loved pet out of it's misery, but our own species has to suffer until nature takes it's course.

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Whoops, I guess I should have read the post before (mis-)voting.
I'm pro-euthanasia, but I reckon that if you're fit and well and want to end it all, you should have to figure out how to do it on your own!
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If I were a cripple and wanted to die, I'd hope someone would put me out of my misery.
It's so awful to make someone suffer thru life on machines or a vegtable.

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I wonder who's the only person against it so far.

I'm pro.
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I'm definetly, definetly for it. Just over a year ago I wrote a research paper on this topic and at that time, the person who was making the headlines for euthanasia was Diane Pretty. Reading about her story just absolutely broke my heart and I couldn't, and still can't, understand how somebody could be against it. I can kind of understand why it sounds bad to some people. Suicide, even assisted, is still kind of taboo to a lot of people and unforetunately there are enough of those people that occupy very important positions and that's why we still have so many people suffering why they shouldn't have to

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It should be available on a very limited basis with strictly defined criteria.

Anyone who is either chronically or terminally ill should have every option available to them. Hospice care, rehabilitation, psychological
treatment and pain management should all be readably available to them. The cost of such treatments should not be a consideration. Only when all of these needs have been met, should assissted suicide be an option.

Euthanasia is a different matter since it assumes that the decision is made by someone else without the rational consent of the individual.
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Terrific post, a subject that divides so many people.

There are so many facets to this subject.

I think there are legitimate cases and some not so. Here in Australia a lady decided to take her life with her family around, only for the autopsy to reveal she didn't have cancer.

I think the standard should be if someone wants to take their own life, then they need to give prior knowledge and be "un-assisted".

I also think it shows a crack in the system. My mother has been in nursing for 40 years....and holds the theory that should she be on a machine to pull the plug. I don't think I would be able to do it though.

Many people are born retarded or have it happen through their life. I just don't believe we have the right to play god. The body is only a temple...their spirit remains the same.

As a child we would have up to 10 retarded kids stay at our place on weekends in the "relief" programme for parents with retarded children. They didn't work the same as a "Normal" kids, however, getting to know them I overlooked the body manurisms and looked at them as a special person.

I guess I see assisted suicide as a selfish act...any suicide is selfish, there is a moral dilemma when people take the right to help someone take their life...is it Murder?? No....do they have the right to do it? No.

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For Euthanasia.

We are trying to improve the quality of life of someone, not prolong pain, suffering and agony with quantity of life. If I was ever ill or only had a few expected months to live with pain and suffering I would want to leave knowing I died with dignity, not dying in pain. Really, who wants to live their last few months of their lives with pain, being so weak you can't even hold a spoon to your face, to me it's a personal choice, if you want to die with dignity then no one has that right to keep you alive. only legislation in Religious affiliation keep that from happening.

So in its affirmative for me, it's a decision that you yourself have to make, not the Church, or your relgion or some law, If you want to pass without pain and suffering then you should be allowed to that right.
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Euthanasia is a different matter since it assumes that the decision is made by someone else without the rational consent of the individual.
no, it doesnt assume that.


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For Euthanasia.

We are trying to improve the quality of life of someone, not prolong pain, suffering and agony with quantity of life. If I was ever ill or only had a few expected months to live with pain and suffering I would want to leave knowing I died with dignity, not dying in pain. Really, who wants to live their last few months of their lives with pain, being so weak you can't even hold a spoon to your face, to me it's a personal choice, if you want to die with dignity then no one has that right to keep you alive. only legislation in Religious affiliation keep that from happening.

So in its affirmative for me, it's a decision that you yourself have to make, not the Church, or your relgion or some law, If you want to pass without pain and suffering then you should be allowed to that right.
Yes completely agree with you...my issue, and the issue that has stopped it being legal is....how can you accept something like that from a person who isn't stable of mind? If assisted suicide is going to be legal...then we need to make that choice at an age and state of mind that is valid.

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Many people are born retarded or have it happen through their life. I just don't believe we have the right to play god. The body is only a temple...their spirit remains the same.
on the flip, arent we playing god by not allowing the person to do as they please? shouldnt they be able to make their own decisions about their own life?

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I guess I see assisted suicide as a selfish act...any suicide is selfish, there is a moral dilemma when people take the right to help someone take their life...is it Murder?? No....do they have the right to do it? No.
when a person is near the end, they know it. if they are suffering and are without hope, why make them suffer longer? my grandfather was taking 160mg of oxycontin every SIX hours [injections too]. he was in a lot of pain due to the cancer all of his body, the skin sagging off of him, etc. i dont see the hurt in allowing someone to assist a person with a terminal illness. it is completely humane, and if we can do it for animals, why not humans? arent WE being selfish by keeping them here so we can feel better about ourselves?


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Assisted suicide - yes. Euthanasia - no.
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The only people who are capable of making that decision of wanting to pass is the patient themselves. The majority of people who would be in any pain they can feel physicially would know when Euthanasia may be an action they may consider, certainly by a specialist in their area, and/or a doctor could also have their opinion on the situation as to whenever Euthanasia could be an effective alternative rather then treatment and dialasys.

btw decemberlove nice relevance
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