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much has been made out of executions by the islamists this year. not so much about the clothes that executed people wore in all those videos. orange. like what people in a certain camp on cuba are forced to wear, courtesy of the same country. or anyone of you islamophobic people thinks the prophet ordered this dress code for executions back in the day? after all, according to some islamic fundamentalists are robots programmed by their holy book, so it would make sense for you to think so.
I am not aware of any prisoners in Guantanamo being beheaded. Nor am I of aware any prisoners in Guantanamo being journalists or aid workers, bringing aid to besieged Muslims in Syria. I would not be callous enough to compare a Guantanamo prisoner with a beheaded aid worker.

The last two sentences do not make sense, but I just might be a proud Islamophobic. My Muslim friends I judge individually, but I do have a great distaste for the primitive religion they choose to follow (I have no problem differentiating between the meaning of "a Muslim" and "Islam"). Although I guess it is a bit of a stretch to say they "chose" to be Muslim. Of course I do have a great dislike for Christianity too, but nobody bothers to use the word Christianityophobia for some reason. But I would count myself in on that one too. Following the words of these ancient books, written by old men who had no idea what the 21st century would be like, is just plain lack of common sense in my opinion. I wish those ancient cults would just disappear.

PS. I can now make sense of your last sentence with the addition of a critical comma after "some". But while it may then be grammatically correct, it is still a silly assertion. I don't even think of those beheaders as fundamentalist Muslims. I think of them as psychopaths who have found an outlet for their desire to butcher innocent human beings. Let us not forget that they are not just beheading Westerners, they are mostly beheading and otherwise executing their fellow Muslims. So it cannot be Islam that drives them, just the pleasure of butchering. Islam is their excuse.

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That's Stockholm Syndrome for you.

But honestly, it's hard to believe that they really want to dress that way when it's been codified that they should, especially when society has added so much meaning into the way a woman should dress. The concept that being prudent in the way you dress is one way you can preserve the honor of your family is a pretty heavy burden to carry, is it not? And then there are women who are punished because men feel that they've not upheld the piety they should through the way they dress. When things like this happen how can anyone say that there's any sort of choice involved?
all i'm saying is that there is no fear of being labeled "islamophobe". in the post right below yours someone says they are proudly islamophobic.

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I am not aware of any prisoners in Guantanamo being beheaded. Nor am I of aware any prisoners in Guantanamo being journalists or aid workers, bringing aid to besieged Muslims in Syria. I would not be callous enough to compare a Guantanamo prisoner with a beheaded aid worker.
when i was in the red cross museum in geneva they had 3d projections of "witnesses", people who were helped by the red cross. one of them was a journalist who was imprisoned for 6 years at guantanamo. his testimony was also in that yellow suit.

but that's beside the point. everyone with a brain understands what's wrong with guantanamo and how that camp is perceived in the muslim world. putting those clothes on people you kill is a way to score political points there and recruit more fighters. they don't give a flying fuck about what proud islamophobes think.

oh, and they behead journalists and aid workers because they can't get anyone more relevant. i'm sure getting a western general or prominent politician is their wet dream but they are too weak for that.

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The last two sentences do not make sense, but I just might be a proud Islamophobic. My Muslim friends I judge individually, but I do have a great distaste for the primitive religion they choose to follow (I have no problem differentiating between the meaning of "a Muslim" and "Islam"). Although I guess it is a bit of a stretch to say they "chose" to be Muslim. Of course I do have a great dislike for Christianity too, but nobody bothers to use the word Christianityophobia for some reason. But I would count myself in on that one too. Following the words of these ancient books, written by old men who had no idea what the 21st century would be like, is just plain lack of common sense in my opinion. I wish those ancient cults would just disappear.

PS. I can now make sense of your last sentence with the addition of a critical comma after "some". But while it may then be grammatically correct, it is still a silly assertion. I don't even think of those beheaders as fundamentalist Muslims. I think of them as psychopaths who have found an outlet for their desire to butcher innocent human beings. Let us not forget that they are not just beheading Westerners, they are mostly beheading and otherwise executing their fellow Muslims. So it cannot be Islam that drives them, just the pleasure of butchering. Islam is their excuse.
of course islam is their excuse. why do you hate islam so much then? i hate political islam and islamic theocracies but not the religion itself. the religion should not be hated but made irrelevant in most domains, like it happened in the western world. trying to ban religions altogether is so communist. the enlightened way is to let them fade into insignificance.
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trying to ban religions altogether is so communist.
That is unfortunate, but at this point, there is no other option. The only way to tame Islam is to secularize everything. At this point in Geramny for example, there are too many Turkish and muslims already living here. Because of this, Christians have to suffer in that their privileges are becoming diminished.

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all i'm saying is that there is no fear of being labeled "islamophobe". in the post right below yours someone says they are proudly islamophobic.
Being fearful of Islam is a perfectly rational and sensible behaviour.

In that sense, I am proudly Islamophobic.
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I've been hearing rumors that there is a musical in the makings about the Koran that will be in the vein of "The Book of Mormon".

The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils. The motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dark as Erebus. Let no such man be trusted. Shakespeare

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all i'm saying is that there is no fear of being labeled "islamophobe". in the post right below yours someone says they are proudly islamophobic.
Being fearful of Islam is a perfectly rational and sensible behaviour.

In that sense, I am proudly Islamophobic.
Agreed. If I'm not being callwd Islamophobic, I'm not doing my job properly
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Agreed. If I'm not being callwd Islamophobic, I'm not doing my job properly
Then your job must be to do exactly what Islamist terrorists want you to do. So good on you. Keep dancing to their tune.

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I have no problems when people shit on one religion or another. And that doesn't necessarily mean a phobia.
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Agreed. If I'm not being callwd Islamophobic, I'm not doing my job properly
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Then your job must be to do exactly what Islamist terrorists want you to do. So good on you. Keep dancing to their tune.
exactly. the more nonsensical islam bashing the more recruits for the islamic terror groups. i openly say islam is stupid but that comes from my conviction that all religions are useless. and the muslims i talk to don't react in the same way to what i have to say when compared to aforementioned brainless islam (muslim) bashing.

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I have no problems when people shit on one religion or another. And that doesn't necessarily mean a phobia.
it means "phobia" in the sense of "xenophobia" which doesn't mean fear but hatred (out of ignorance). in this sense the term makes a lot of, well, sense.
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Islamophobia rearing its ugly head in Sweden. Islamophobic reporter makes a big deal out of Muslim politician doing a bouchard on her

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A Swedish Green Party politician, who ignited a storm of controversy after refusing to shake hands with a female reporter on grounds that it violated his Muslim faith, announced on Wednesday that he was quitting politics.

Yasri Khan is the second Green Party politician to resign in acrimony this week.

During an interview with a female reporter from the TV4 broadcaster on Tuesday, Khan placed his hand over his heart instead of shaking her hand in greeting.

"People can greet each other in different ways. The most important thing is to show respect by seeing each other, to meet each other… to respect each other," Khan said during an interview with state broadcaster Swedish Radio.

Khan, also the general secretary of the organization Swedish Muslims for Peace and Justice, has faced strong criticism from within his party since the incident.

"It is unacceptable. You can't have a man in the party who can't greet women in the same way you greet a man. I'm upset," Stina Bergström, a Green Party parliamentarian, told Swedish tabloid Aftonbladet.

In interviews with Swedish media, Khan lashed out at his critics and said that the debate, and his fellow Muslim Green Party member Mehmet Kaplan's resignation, had caused him to run out of energy.

"In today's political climate, I wonder if politics is right for me, and if I want to be a media circus clown," he told the Nyheter24 news site.
He should have just said that it's lame like Genie did
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Do you realize that light skin Muslims have been slaughtering dark skinned blacks in Africa?

Muslims ethnic cleansing of blacks in Libya:

http://humanrightsinvestigations.org...nic-cleansing/

Muslims ethnic cleansing of blacks in Darfur:

Darfur Vs Gaza: African Muslims Are Worth Less Than Arab Muslims - Islam for Muslims - Nigeria
Buddhist ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Myanmar (28 children hacked to death in 2013):

Myanmar's Buddhist Terrorism Problem | Al Jazeera America

Ongoing violent persecution of Muslims in Sri Lanka:

Sri Lankan Muslims fearful after Buddhist mob violence - CNN.com

Genocide of Muslims by Christians in Central African Republic:

World Ignores Genocide In Central African Republic Because It's Not ISIS & There's No Oil

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muslims are bad compared to other religions

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it means "phobia" in the sense of "xenophobia" which doesn't mean fear but hatred (out of ignorance). in this sense the term makes a lot of, well, sense.
Xenophobia means fear or intense suspicion of foreigners. Yes that fear drives hate. Same with Islamophobia. Though more so. Islamophobic people's fear-to-hate of Muslims is glaringly obvious. Which is what Islamist terrorists want to create.

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Agreed. If I'm not being callwd Islamophobic, I'm not doing my job properly
Then your job must be to do exactly what Islamist terrorists want you to do. So good on you. Keep dancing to their tune.
They can't attack us if they are dead or out of the country , now can they?

Is there a way to combine Trumps ban on non American mulaims and clintons hawkish military policy (drones in particular) ?

That's why I'm happy with NY results, either way I'm happy with president trump or Xlinton. They aren't weak on Islam like sanders is, hell the fact that he got the Muslim vote is reason wnough to be disqualified.

Keith Ellison only Muslim in congress thanks to Minnesota open door policy to Somali Muslims supports sanders no shock there
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