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Marilyn Manson debuts at #1, but it's weak.

Manson's "The Golden Age of the Grotesque" moved 118,000 copies to land at #1 this week. While it's a #1 debut and slightly (about 1000 units more) better than what his last disc did, it's still the sixth-lowest figure for a #1 album this year, and the lowest of a debut #1. However, with sales figures being so sickly, I'm sure they'll take it. It's worth noting that this is their 2nd #1 album, after "Mechanical Animals" did it in 1998.

Anyway, the first single ("mOBSCENE") I don't think is all that good, much the way "Disposable Teens" didn't impress me from 2000's "Holy Wood". However, I'm damn near positive the 2nd single will be "Use Your Fist and Not Your Mouth", which is pretty sweet, but it's anybody's guess whether the first single will have tanked the record by then, much like three years ago when the infinitely superior "Fight Song" got zero airplay after the album disappeared during the Christmas season.
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That is very weak. Only 1/2 of what Madonna did, and she got roasted for it. I agree Fight Song was incredible, not liking mObscene too much, myself.
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That is very weak. Only 1/2 of what Madonna did, and she got roasted for it. I agree Fight Song was incredible, not liking mObscene too much, myself.
Eh, he'll never, ever sell like Madonna. These are the first week numbers for his last 4 records (according to RollingStone).

AntiChrist SuperStar - 132,000
Mechanical Animals - 223,000
Holy Wood - 117,000
The Golden Age of the Grotesque - 118,000


I'm interested in knowing what it'll do next week. Holy wood fell off to about 73,000.
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I'm guessing (and I don't really follow 2nd week drops every week) about a 50% drop or so. That seems to be the trend for a lot of artists. Big(ger) first week, then a rapid decent out of the top 50.
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I think it really depends on whether there's a "Beautiful People" or a "Dope Show" on this CD. The hardcore fans provide the decent first week, but the casual, hit-driven music buyers would make it a hit record. But I don't expect that to happen.
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I think it really depends on whether there's a "Beautiful People" or a "Dope Show" on this CD. The hardcore fans provide the decent first week, but the casual, hit-driven music buyers would make it a hit record. But I don't expect that to happen.
Yep, that's what I was trying to say... you just did it better. Do you have it, the CD?
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Yep, that's what I was trying to say... you just did it better. Do you have it, the CD?
Heh, on my hard drive.

I'll buy it eventually. when it doesn't cost me 30 bucks canadian. Oh wait, the dollar went up. Probably more like 25 then.
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LOL... I have the first single. Will I like the rest of it since I'm only luke warm on "mOb...."?
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Uhhh, I haven't really gotten into the album yet. So it's hard for me to say just now. But I'm lukewarm on "mOBSCENE" too, and I like other songs, so yeah, probably. Get "This is the New Shit" or "Use your fist...."
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If the album is like the single, it will be his worst album so far. The single is awful. And in an interview I heard Manson say he's more commercial than ever, so that doesn't sound good

Oh well, he never really succeeded in maintaining the level of "AntiChrist Superstar" IMO. Holy Wood was okay and I didn't really care for Mechanical Animals. The live cd was brill though.

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Agreed. Mobscene is an odd choice for a lead single, but I'm still looking forward to hearing the album.

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i listened to the album in the shop, and it's quite a monster. the sound is tight and heavy.
that said, i think that MM is one of the artists where you just have to own one album and that's quite enough, thank you very much (in my case it's holy wood, i really like it, though my favourite single is still the dope show from mechanical animals).


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Nothing beats The Beautiful People! One of the best songs ever.

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Nah; can't beat the Fight Song, or Coma White. (well, unless you count the excellent version of Sweet Dreams)

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I know a lot of people didn't care for mechanical animals, and I was one of them for about a year or two after the record came out. And then i just all of a sudden realized how great it is. It's my favorite CD of his, AntiChrist riding a close second.

So we're all in agreement that "mOBSCENE" sucks. happily, there are some good songs on there that don't sound like it.
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