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Paula Deen: I Used the N-Word, but Don't Condone Racism

Paula Deen Racist Comments, Use Of N-Word Allegedly Caught On Video [UPDATED]

The Huffington Post | By Rachel Tepper
Posted: 06/19/2013 3:23 pm EDT | Updated: 06/20/2013 8:07 am EDT




Paula Deen is no stranger to controversy, but new allegations of racism leveled against the Southern chef may shock even those who have followed her troubles most closely.

The National Enquirer claims to have acquired a video of a deposition in which Deen admits to using the N-word and making racist and anti-semitic jokes. She also allegedly describes her interest in hiring black waiters dressed to look like "slaves" at a wedding.

The deposition, which was reportedly held on May 17, took place as part of a court case brought forth by former Paula Deen Enterprises employee Lisa Jackson against Deen and her brother, Earl “Bubba” Hiers. Jackson alleges several instances of sexual and racial workplace discrimination.

Neither the video of the deposition or The National Enquirer's story are available on the web, but Radar Online posted some of the story's most disturbing highlights:
[W]hen asked if she wanted black men to play the role of slaves at a wedding she explained she got the idea from a restaurant her husband and her had dined at saying, “The whole entire waiter staff was middle-aged black men, and they had on beautiful white jackets with a black bow tie. “I mean, it was really impressive. That restaurant represented a certain era in America…after the Civil War, during the Civil War, before the Civil War…It was not only black men, it was black women…I would say they were slaves.”
While The National Enquirer has a checkered history when it comes to printing the truth, it's worth noting that the tabloid was first to break the story that Deen suffered from type II diabetes, and its early reporting on the John Edwards affair turned the story into a national scandal.

A representative for Deen strongly refutes The National Enquirer's allegations, telling Entertainment Tonight that, “Contrary to media reports, Ms. Deen does not condone or find the use of racial epithets acceptable. She is looking forward to her day in court.”

We'll be following this story closely to see if these allegations pan out. If they do, we imagine Paula Deen will have some explaining to do.

UPDATE:
The Huffington Post has obtained a transcript of the deposition in question. The quotes below are pulled directly from it.

On using the N-word:
Lawyer: Have you ever used the N-word yourself?
Deen: Yes, of course. Lawyer: Okay. In what context?
Deen: Well, it was probably when a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head.
Lawyer: Okay. And what did you say?
Deen: Well, I don't remember, but the gun was dancing all around my temple ... I didn't -- I didn't feel real favorable towards him.
Lawyer: Okay. Well, did you use the N-word to him as he pointed a gun in your head at your face?
Deen: Absolutely not.
Lawyer: Well, then, when did you use it?
Deen: Probably in telling my husband.
Lawyer: Okay. Have you used it since then?
Deen: I'm sure I have, but it's been a very long time.
Lawyer: Can you remember the context in which you have used the N-word?
Deen: No.
Lawyer: Has it occurred with sufficient frequency that you cannot recall all of the various context in which you've used it?
Deen: No, no.
Lawyer: Well, then tell me the other context in which you've used the N-word?
Deen: I don't know, maybe in repeating something that was said to me.
Lawyer: Like a joke?
Deen: No, probably a conversation between blacks. I don't -- I don't know. But that's just not a word that we use as time has gone on. Things have changed since the '60s in the south. And my children and my brother object to that word being used in any cruel or mean behavior. As well as I do.
On her brother's behavior:
Lawyer: Are you aware of Mr. Hiers admitting that he engaged in racially and sexually inappropriate behavior in the workplace?
...
Deen: I guess
Lawyer: Okay. Well, have you done anything about what you heard him admit to doing?
Deen: My brother and I have had conversations. My brother is not a bad person. Do humans behave inappropriately? At times, yes. I don't know one person that has not. My brother is a good man. Have we told jokes? Have we said things that we should not have said, that -- yes, we all have. We all have done that, every one of us.
On telling jokes that target African Americans, Jews, gays and other groups:
Lawyer: What about jokes, if somebody is telling a joke that's got --
Deen: It's just what they are, they're jokes. Lawyer: Okay. Would you consider those to be using the N word in a mean way?

Deen: That's -- that's kind of hard. Most -- most jokes are about Jewish people, rednecks, black folks. Most jokes target -- I don't know. I didn't make up the jokes, I don't know. I can't -- I don't know.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: They usually target, though a group. Gays or straights, black, redneck, you know, I just don't know. I can't, myself, determine what offends another person.
On planning a Southern plantation-style wedding:
Lawyer: Do you recall using the words “really southern plantation wedding”? Deen: Yes, I did say I would love for Bubba to experience a very southern style wedding, and we did that. We did that. Lawyer: Okay. You would love for him to experience a southern style plantation wedding?
Deen: Yes.
Lawyer: That’s what you said?
Deen: Well, something like that, yes. And -–
Laywer: Okay. And is that when you went on to describe the experience you had at the restaurant in question?
Deen: Well, I don’t know. We were probably talking about the food or –- we would have been talking about something to do with service at the wedding, and –-
...
Lawyer: Is there any possibility, in your mind, that you slipped and used the word “n----r”?
Deen: No, because that’s not what these men were. They were professional black men doing a fabulous job.
Lawyer: Why did that make it a -– if you would have had servers like that, why would that have made it a really southern plantation wedding?
...
Deen: Well, it –- to me, of course I’m old but I ain’t that old, I didn’t live back in those days but I’ve seen the pictures, and the pictures that I’ve seen, that restaurant represented a certain era in America.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: And I was in the south when I went to this restaurant. It was located in the south.
Lawyer: Okay. What era in America are you referring to?
Deen: Well, I don’t know. After the Civil War, during the Civil War, before the Civil War.
Lawyer: Right. Back in an era where there were middle-aged black men waiting on white people.
Deen: Well, it was not only black men, it was black women.
Lawyer: Sure. And before the Civil War –- before the Civil War, those black men and women who were waiting on white people were slaves, right?
Deen: Yes, I would say that they were slaves.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: But I did not mean anything derogatory by saying that I loved their look and their professionalism.
Read the transcript of the entire deposition here: Paula Deen Deposition Testimony.

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Ask someone whom you consider to be a 'nigga' in person and you'll quickly find out.

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Black rappers used it all the time.

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This guy probably didn't get it, either:



But this thread isn't about rappers and the n-word, it's about Paula Deen, so you'll have to find someone else to assist you in further derailing the thread.

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Oh, go eat a stick of butter, Paula.

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She's not being racist. She's just proud of her heritage.

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hmmm, Paula Paula Paula..... I don't know she is pretty country from the deep deep south so in that way it's not really surprising to me.
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Black rappers used it all the time.
In the US, there's a kind of doublestandard where any ethnic group can use slurs ironically, while reserving the right to be offended if outsiders do.

For example, I can joke about me being a "bubba" or a "redneck." Someone who is not a fellow white, southern, guy is advised not to call me that.

My Cajun friends call each other "coonass" all the time, but it's strictly among themselves. And a couple of Jewish friends are the best source for horribly tasteless Jewish jokes I know.

For some reason, though, a certain segment of the population gets all upset about the fact blacks do this, even though, again, almost all US ethnic groups do it, or have done so in the past. It's actually a way of "owning" the insult to make it less painful.

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Sounds like she doesn't know which was is up. So, she says she has used the word "of course," but apparently only said it to a man who was holding a gun to her head (or repeating a conversation) not a smart move on her part.

That thing about the restaurant...omg, cringe. How horrible. Who would go to a place that was reminiscent of slavery and not only enjoy themselves but want others to experience something similar! What a lunatic. So out of touch with reality.

Still, nice to put a face to a name I've heard a few times before. She kinda looks like the old Katy Perry in The One That Got Away video.

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Sounds like she doesn't know which was is up. So, she says she has used the word "of course," but apparently only said it to a man who was holding a gun to her head (or repeating a conversation) not a smart move on her part.

That thing about the restaurant...omg, cringe. How horrible. Who would go to a place that was reminiscent of slavery and not only enjoy themselves but want others to experience something similar! What a lunatic. So out of touch with reality.

Still, nice to put a face to a name I've heard a few times before. She kinda looks like the old Katy Perry in The One That Got Away video.
It's depressing how many people down here still envision a "Gone With the Wind" version of history, and ignore the fact that the rich plantation owners (from whom very few white southerners are descended) exploited poor whites ruthlessly, too.

I mean yes, slaves had it much worse, please don't think I'm even contemplating saying otherwise. But the large plantation system, its greed for land, its ruthless exploitation of slave labor, and the way it tied up capital making nothing available for infrastructure improvements and its attendant job creation ensured that if you were poor, you were most likely going to stay that way.

You can still see these attitudes in today's Dixiecrats, btw. Federal programs are bad (esp. if they help black people achieve parity--even if that parity would be at a HIGHER level for blacks AND poor whites; investing in education and infrastructure is a waste of funds, etc.)

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For an international, or at least national, celebrity Paula seems frightfully unacquainted with the real world.

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It's depressing how many people down here still envision a "Gone With the Wind" version of history, and ignore the fact that the rich plantation owners (from whom very few white southerners are descended) exploited poor whites ruthlessly, too.

I mean yes, slaves had it much worse, please don't think I'm even contemplating saying otherwise. But the large plantation system, its greed for land, its ruthless exploitation of slave labor, and the way it tied up capital making nothing available for infrastructure improvements and its attendant job creation ensured that if you were poor, you were most likely going to stay that way.

You can still see these attitudes in today's Dixiecrats, btw. Federal programs are bad (esp. if they help black people achieve parity--even if that parity would be at a HIGHER level for blacks AND poor whites; investing in education and infrastructure is a waste of funds, etc.)
I guess that makes sense but, of course, people focus on the worst aspect of all - slavery.

Still, I think Irish people were some of the first slaves brought to the Americas. I can't remember whether or not they were brought to the States or just the Caribbean but apparently a significant number of Central Americans have at least some Irish blood in them and a few family names are Hispanisized (is there an actual word for this or can I use my made up one) Irish names - Obregon = O Brien, apparently!

Anyway, whether Paula D came from one of those poor exploited family or a family of rich, landowning oppressors, she seems like quite the relic!

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For an international, or at least national, celebrity Paula seems frightfully unacquainted with the real world.
I'm much more up on my American pop-culture than most, quite a lot more compared to other Irish people and the few British, Australia and Kiwi friends I have and although I had heard of her (referenced in movies, sitcoms etc.) and knew she was involved in cooking/cuisine, I would definitely say she's in no way an international celebrity.

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