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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Jan 19th, 2003, 01:30 AM Thread Starter
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for those of yuo Eurostudent tards who want to piss & moan about the war mongering USA

KNOW THIS

European culture = constant warring, ethnic cleansing and murdering millions

over 100 million died in the 20th Century due to the great Eurotard culture of warring and ethnic cleansing

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they arent pissing and moaning about the USA, but the select few who have the power in the USA and arent using it in a humane way...also u cant condemn all eurotards just like u cant condemn all USA citizens

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they arent pissing and moaning about the USA, but the select few who have the power in the USA and arent using it in a humane way...
Bush has the support of the majority of the American people, and he's surrounded himself with the most competent foreign policy team ever gathered in modern history. Bolton, Rice, Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell etc.

The U.S. is trying to deal with the inhumane Ba'ath regime in Baghdad instead of ignoring it like some countries prefer to, thereby leaving the Iraqis alone with their very own murdering despot. Is that more humane? Closing your eyes and wishing that the bad guys will go away won't always work.

Sometimes war is the humane way.
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Bush has the support of the majority of the American people, and he's surrounded himself with the most competent foreign policy team ever gathered in modern history. Bolton, Rice, Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell etc.
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The U.S. is trying to deal with the inhumane Ba'ath regime in Baghdad instead of ignoring it like some countries prefer to, thereby leaving the Iraqis alone with their very own murdering despot. Is that more humane? Closing your eyes and wishing that the bad guys will go away won't always work.

Sometimes war is the humane way.
War is never a humane way, especially not if the motives are less than humane.
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War is never a humane way, especially not if the motives are less than humane.
the motives for war are NEVER humane, but it's a trait that ALL nations are guilty off, (and the Eurotards have more history than anyone else) so it's not just the Americans and certainly not that dumbass Bush

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if YUO were sitting in the Oral Office, yuo will be making the decision to send in the Army Bois, that's because yuor decision will be based upon what the Bois TELL yuo to decide

so don't put the blame on Bush

that dipshit can just about write his own name

do yuo honestly think he's capable of deciding US foreign policy?
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Of course not, that's why he needs that whole team.

Europe once was the dominant power and tried to subdue the entire globe, now the US is trying to do the same. That's what is important, what is happening now. Of course Europe has a bloody history just because of its arrogant and dominant position but presently the US is making the exact same mistake. And I know it's a common trait of a super power but that doesn't mean we should simply accept it and keep quiet.
There will always be some naive pacifists who will try to change the world and I'm proud to be one of them.
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a very fair and intelligent answer

but remember this, the last school yard bully of the world was the British Empire, and it was the largest empire the world has ever seen or is likely to see ever again

an amazing feat giving the tiny size of the nation

BUT

they were one of the most ruthless empires yuo can imagine

British foreign policy was this; to make the world "English" and to make yuo drink tea and play cricket whether yuo liked it or not, and if yuo didn't like it, the British would kill yuo

American foreign policy in a nutshell is, yuo can continue to worship strange gods and even kill yuor own people, so long as yuo don't interfere with our friendly drug dealers who supply us the oil we need for our addiction, and as long as yuo have no intention or desire to crash jet liners into our buildings, we won't kill yuo

granted it hasn't always been like this, we had that paranoid period in the late 40s up to the mid 70s when just the sight of a pajama wearing dude waving a red book would drive us insane, but we've got over that

Also, and this is a FACT, if we were to ever lose out status as King Bully of the World (and someone has to be it) yuo can bet yuor ass that our replacement is gonna be a hundreds times worse and he's gonna fuck with yuo even more.

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Lol I agree but it did fit in the way of thinking of that time. European culture was seen as superior to everything so in a way they felt like they were "civilising" the world.

In a way America is doing the same but on a political and economical (especially economical) level. If you're not into their system of free trade and "globalisation" according to their vision, you're evil.

And America is indeed the best super power from our point of view since we share pretty much the same interests but if you're a muslim or a Korean you're busted.
But I guess if China ever takes over we will feel the same.
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for those of yuo Eurostudent tards who want to piss & moan about the war mongering USA

KNOW THIS

European culture = constant warring, ethnic cleansing and murdering millions

over 100 million died in the 20th Century due to the great Eurotard culture of warring and ethnic cleansing

troof!

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First, I want this thread deleted. And I'll request it in a new thread. It's as insulting as it gets. And before you even begin, yes I know the 'stupid American' stereotype is very prevelant, but I've never seen it written down like this. It's a stereotype, but...people like you always make me wonder how much truth it holds. Good thing I have many American friends to remind me that it is just a stereotype.

Second, humanity = constant warring, ethnic cleansing and murdering millions.

But, it you want the pick and choose, how about talking about the Indian wars. They were sooooo humane.

And, now if you'll excuse me, I have a thread to start.
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Lol I agree but it did fit in the way of thinking of that time. European culture was seen as superior to everything so in a way they felt like they were "civilising" the world.

In a way America is doing the same but on a political and economical (especially economical) level. If you're not into their system of free trade and "globalisation" according to their vision, you're evil.

And America is indeed the best super power from our point of view since we share pretty much the same interests but if you're a muslim or a Korean you're busted.
But I guess if China ever takes over we will feel the same.
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First, I want this thread deleted. And I'll request it in a new thread. It's as insulting as it gets. And before you even begin, yes I know the 'stupid American' stereotype is very prevelant, but I've never seen it written down like this. It's a stereotype, but...people like you always make me wonder how much truth it holds. Good thing I have many American friends to remind me that it is just a stereotype.

Second, humanity = constant warring, ethnic cleansing and murdering millions.

But, it you want the pick and choose, how about talking about the Indian wars. They were sooooo humane.

And, now if you'll excuse me, I have a thread to start.
in regard to Indians

on Thanksgiving Day, i posted a thread on this very board which read something like this

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In This Thread, I explain to Eurotards what Thanksgiving is all about"

Thanksgiving is a day to celebrate the fact that the founding fathers of our nation were a bunch of fucktards who were unable to look after themselves

but thanks to the kindness of the Native Indians who gave food to the Pilgrims, they were able to survive and prosper

in return the Pligrims killed the Indians and stole all their land

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don't test my hypocrisy, i tell it like it is, and i don't give a fuck about the language, mannerisms or the sterotypes that i use

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War is never a humane way, especially not if the motives are less than humane.
If humane describes a measure which most effectively alleviates human suffering in a given situation, wars do occasionally warant that label. It doesn't necessarily follow that a violent act can never be humane. Similarly with large-scale violent acts, i.e. war. In this context alone, motives are irrelevant when determining if its humane or not. A military strike on Iraq to demolish its current leadership and democratically rebuild the country must be judged on its own merits in terms of what it accomplishes, and what the alternatives are.

We have to take into account the day-to-day casualties and the mistreatment which Saddam Hussein brings onto his own people if we do not choose that option. I doubt the Iraqis rejoice at the prospect of 20 more years under his oppresive rule, followed by 40 or so with his elder son, Uday, who by the looks of it might be even more whacked and defiant.

And we haven't even touched on the instability he brings to the region. It's easy to take the moral high ground when he doesn't live 30 yards down our block. And when we likely won't be first in line when he decides to bring his chemical or biological warfare circus from the late 80's to a town near you, perhaps aided by foreign radicals who share his resentment of America, Israel, and the West.

If we leave him alone, as some people seem to prefer, he will be left to scheme, plan, and plot as much as he likes, while tightening his grip on the Iraqi people. That's not the humane way.

Look what the American war drums have already achieved. Saving the United Nation from further embarrassment by getting the weapons inspectors back in. Saddam was basically laughing the UN in its face before Bush started to anal probe him.

The Arab countries have heightened the pressure on this government, and apparently the Saudis have even proposed a plan for exiling him.

Thanks to the U.S., things are moving along, and we might actually see an end to the Ba'ath regime in 2003.
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and replace is with what regime? Who do you have in mind?

Do you honestly believe those are the reasons Bush wants to go to war?

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