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post #1 of 47 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 2002, 08:56 AM Thread Starter
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Cool I just saw LOTR-The two towers!!!

I'm great in the movie, as usual

At the beginning the movie goes very fast respect to the book (they find Gollum like in 30 seconds), but then the battles are greatly done, and very long.

The only thing I didn't like were a couple of scenes with Liv Tyler which didn't fit much in the movie, they were like a halt in the action.

Gollum is greatly done, and so are the Ents- though I had imagined them differently.
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post #2 of 47 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 2002, 09:08 AM
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I thought the first one went way too fast, all the way through. Same with the Clones Starwars film... too much going on, it was like a race to get as much into the film as possible. I'm glad you enjoyed your movie I think it gets here in March...
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

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i don't think i'll see it this year, because it's completely sold out! but next year - and that's soon.

nice to see you like your own performance, gandalf...


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Re: I just saw LOTR-The two towers!!!

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The only thing I didn't like were a couple of scenes with Liv Tyler which didn't fit much in the movie, they were like a halt in the action.
A lot of people complained about her in the 1st movie too, which in accordance with the book is true. She shouldn't be in it that much, but the movie has to have her as a major character to have a continuous flow, so it's a little understandable.

I look forward to seeing the ents

I might be watching it as a movie marathon, the first and second movie together in one night, which could be like 6 hours long

But I'll see, it depends on what gets organised
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post #7 of 47 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 2002, 11:15 AM
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I saw it too!

The scenes with Gollum/Sméagol are brilliant and very funny.
The movie didn't end with Shelob though pffff.

Overall I liked the first movie better but then again, the second book is the weaker of the three IMO.
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post #8 of 47 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 2002, 02:36 PM
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Given everything they had to cut out of the books, I am annoyed they managed for find room for Tyler - but I suppose they felt the need to remind us the Companions aren't queer (sorry - feeling cynical this morning)

There were a couple of places I felt they went a little too "hollywood" in an attempt to make it more appealing to the average movie-goer (at least, I'm guessing that was the motivation), but it was a good movie.

Sam - the Ents were very cool. I also had fun picking out old Xena castmembers and the scenery is stunning.

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Saw it last night. Loved it. Was only disturbed by the fact that the audience kept laughing during Gollum's scenes. I thought Andy Serkis did a fine job of showing that creature's pain and I was uncomfortable when the audience kept laughing at every scene he was in.

The filmmakers did cut a lot from the books; however, I also believe that these films, while trying to stay true to Tolkien's vision, are also made for the average filmgoer who will never pick up the books. With any adaptation, there will be a lot of the book left on the cutting room floor and if the filmmakers can capture the essence of the book, then that is all that can be asked of them. I think Jackson and Co did that.

Arwen was the character I had the hardest time coming to grips with. However, I would argue that Arwen was not brought onto the scene just to show that the fellowship is not queer, but to show the beautiful love story that Tolkien wrote in his appendix about Arwen and Aragon and that sacrifices that she has to make in order to be with the man she loves. I thought the filmmakers did a great job of bringing in her story (mind you, she was only onscreen for 10 minutes if that) and showing her influence on Aragon's life.

Of course, this is all my own opinion. My favorite scene was the battle of Helm's Deep. Quite spectacular. The Ents were really amazing. Sam (Sean Astin) was wonderful, grounding Frodo in reality. Elijah Wood (his big, bright eyes deserve a special award all their own) allowed the audience to see Frodo's obsession with the ring and how it was consuming him.

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Oh, I know - even if the filmakers weren't concerned with the average filmgoes they still would have had to not only cut much out of the books for time's sake (can you imagine how long you'd be in the theater if they hadn't) but make other changes to translate it. And I see your point about the Arwen thread too, so I'll try to be less grumpy about it (having coffee might help

Some of the changes worked well, I think - like giving Pippin and Merry a larger role in getting the Ents to take action, which also gave them that wonderful scene where Treebeard comes to grips with the full horror or what Sauruman has been doing.

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Given everything they had to cut out of the books, I am annoyed they managed for find room for Tyler - but I suppose they felt the need to remind us the Companions aren't queer (sorry - feeling cynical this morning)
Well Legolas and Gimli seem to enjoy eachother's company a little too much at times.

I think Miranda Otto was great as Eowyn, she really played her character beautifully.
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Apoet, I have to say that at times I too laughed during scenes with Gollum, especially when "the fat Hobbit" was preparing those two rabbits and kept provoking Gollum.
But like I said, those scenes in which Gollum tries to get the upper over Sméagol are brilliant.
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I want to see it!!!!!
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Gollum was easily the best thing in the film.

I found it exhausting, and well, boring, nothing much happened apart from the huge battle scene, and call me a typical girl but not even Viggo can keep my interest through all the blood-shed.

and where they produce desolation, they call it peace
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I was supposed to go tonight but have no money

I will go later next week, when my friend can afford the time to take me
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