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I've just come back from RSA and I wouldn't wish anyone to go back there at the moment ,

I was in Paarl and had to witness people from townships striking and grouping on the main streets for higher minimum wages (which they got) and then decide to torch down their workplaces, vitners, orchards, food packaging places.

You can think the ANC for that.
Hence why I'm happy to stay in Europe for a while... Buuut I still rep for SA. My family go back generations and if the situation ever improved then I wouldn't mind going back.

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IMO, the greatest Jamaican public figure ever was not Bob Marley, but the late twice PM, total of 3 terms (socialist) Michael Manley. He was mixed race, but looked pretty much white. IMO, his accent is far closer to Dutch (or Afrikaaner) than "stereotypical Jamaican".

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Yep. And the aim of this thread is to help offset that ignorance.
OK you've proved your point. Theres nowhere on Earth where one can go to escape the scourge of white people, not even Jamaica. Thanks for this new information.


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IMO, the greatest Jamaican public figure ever was not Bob Marley, but the late twice PM, total of 3 terms (socialist) Michael Manley. He was mixed race, but looked pretty much white. IMO, his accent is far closer to Dutch (or Afrikaaner) than "stereotypical Jamaican".

Jamaicans will respectfully disagree with you as Manley being their greatest public figure There was so much upheaval when he ruled.. Meanwhile, he sounded like a typical Jamaican who was educated in Britain, Canada or the U.S.
Edward Seaga who was the Prime Minister after Manley was also white looking-technically he is an American since he was born to Jamaican parents in Boston--dude went to Harvard too..





and speaking of Jamaica's greatest public figure, I'd like to wish a Happy Earthday to the late great Robert Nestor Marley..
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One of my fav Bob Marley songs... I saw him perform it live in NY or Boston in 1980


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Jamaicans will respectfully disagree with you as Manley being their greatest public figure There was so much upheaval when he ruled.. Meanwhile, he sounded like a typical Jamaican who was educated in Britain, Canada or the U.S.
Edward Seaga who was the Prime Minister after Manley was also white looking-technically he is an American since he was born to Jamaican parents in Boston--dude went to Harvard too..





and speaking of Jamaica's greatest public figure, I'd like to wish a Happy Earthday to the late great Robert Nestor Marley..
February 6, 1945 Ė May 11, 1981












One of my fav Bob Marley songs... I saw him perform it live in NY or Boston in 1980
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Perfect song for the reefer heads back in the day.
I was a teenager back then and had no clue what it meant, but absolutely loved it


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OK you've proved your point. Theres nowhere on Earth where one can go to escape the scourge of white people, not even Jamaica. Thanks for this new information.

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and speaking of Jamaica's greatest public figure, I'd like to wish a Happy Earthday to the late great Robert Nestor Marley..
February 6, 1945 – May 11, 1981












One of my fav Bob Marley songs... I saw him perform it live in NY or Boston in 1980



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OK you've proved your point. Theres nowhere on Earth where one can go to escape the scourge of white people, not even Jamaica. Thanks for this new information.
lol. If I'd made my point you wouldn't be writing such crap. Yeah I know your aim is to get a reaction but still "even Jamaica" ? Nah mah man. There are many places where you can go get your xenophobia on but thankfully Jamaica isn't one of them.

BTW no white people or only xenophobic black people - no Bob Marley, no Barack Obama.

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haha white people suck what do scorge mean tho
This post says it all. You couldn't have done it better. Thanks!

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ďMy father was white and my mother black, you know. Them call me half-caste, or whatever. Well, me donít dip on nobodyís side. Me donít dip on the black manís side nor the white manís side. Me dip on Godís side, the one who create me and cause me to come from black and white, who give me this talent.Ē - Nesta Robert (Bob) Marley
'nuff said. Most Jamaicans feel the same hence the national motto. Xenophobes (of whatever ethnicity) step off.

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Staying on the topic of surpise in corners of the world?

Did you know there are Chinese South Africans?
The inresting thing about this is that, in post aprtheid South Africa, the Chinese South Africans went to court demanding to be classified as "Blacks".

Why?
They claim they were discriminated against during apartheid era just like backs, and therefore deserve to be compensated for past discrimination just like blacks are.
Guess what? They won and... are now are blacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7461099.stm


I read a story, which I hope South Africans)s on this TF(ranfurly ) can attest the veracity of, ... or set me straight that it belongs in fiction
Apparently, in the crazy world of white apartheid race-obsessed minds, they had a specific classification for the following people of these countries
  • Mainland Chinese were non-whites
  • Taiwan Chinese were whites
  • Japanese and Koeans were also whites
No word about the Singapore, Hongkong.. chinese

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the term used for the japanese and some other groups by the apartheid regime was "honorary whites":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_whites

this illustrates well how the underlying reasons for the institutional racism had their roots in the economy and social class. the first and most advanced capitalist countries were in western europe and populated by whites. once asian tigers started to rise you had to give them a special status in the absurd racist system. saying openly "this is actually about how rich you are" wouldn't go down well with white people who happened to be poor. in this way they could feel privileged.

more on topic, since i see people are talking about jamaican "accent", jamaican is actually considered a separate language. well, there is jamaican standard english and jamaican creole. in its most basic from creole is hardly intelligible to speakers of english. most people speak something that's between standard english and creole.
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Stayint on the topic of surpise in corners of the world?

Did you know there are Chinese South Africans?
The inresting about this is that, in post aprtheid South Africa, the Chinese South Africans went to court demanding to be classified as "Blacks".

Why?
They claim they were discriminated against during apartheid era just like backs, and therefore deserve to be compensated for past discrimination just like blacks are.
Guess what? They won and... are now are blacks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7461099.stm


I read a story, which I hope South Africans)s on this TF(ranfurly ) can attest the veracity of, ... or set me straight that it belongs in fiction
Apparently, in the crazy world of white apartheid race-obsessed minds, they had a specific classification for the following people of these countries
  • Mainland Chinese were non-whites
  • Taiwan Chinese were whites
  • Japanese and Koeans were also whites
No word about the Singapore, Hongkong.. chinese
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