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I'm sorry but I don't agree. Westerness? What is that?
everyone knows that delhites are fast adopting western ways of living and that was never going to fit well with our traditions......

all i am saying is that our country should either be like the well known india or should fully transform into a western country where even prostitution is legal......at the moment delhi is neither and in the middle of both......so it's a clash of cultures and opinions between peoples in the same region......now that is a dangerous situation......

i am in no way supporting the criminals like some of the human rights activists are doing(headless idiots)......they are horrible creatures in the society and i believe that those six criminals must be hanged to death right away.......

but at the same time, let's also strive towards not opening up such opportunities for the "mad heads" in the first place......

p.s. i am not writing this post because of this incident at all......the girl just boarded some random bus and what happened is very unfortunate......so this is NOT pointed at her at all......i am rather criticizing delhi for opening up opportunities for bastards.......
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but at the same time, let's also strive towards not opening up such opportunities for the "mad heads" in the first place......
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R.I.P and contrary to what the Chief Executive Officer said, I highly doubt she 'passed away peacefully'.

It's good that there has been uproar in India over this. Women are speaking out against the government and police.
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hope the fuckers get the death penalty
typical kneejerk reaction that doesn't help anyone, certainly not the women that get abused, raped and killed every day.

i must admit i'm always very wary when - almost out of the blue - a story that gets repeated probably every week becomes worldwide news. people who usually don't give a fuck act all enraged and shocked.

but i do hope this changes a certain attitude in indian society.


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Woah! Someone hold up a mirror.
These are reactions from our political class.

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Rip. India still has a long way to go
sure it does, as does every country where rape takes place and every country in which women are discriminated against. in other words, everywhere. i'll readily admit that i dunno how safe the average indian woman is compared to the average british, french or american woman, but i know that all these countries have a long way to go as well on this issue.

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These are reactions from our political class.

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sure it does, as does every country where rape takes place and every country in which women are discriminated against. in other words, everywhere. i'll readily admit that i dunno how safe the average indian woman is compared to the average british, french or american woman, but i know that all these countries have a long way to go as well on this issue.
Judging by that article Ashi posted in this thread (women's perspective), there is a big difference and India has a longer way to go than other countries. I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in constant fear for your safety, when doing day to day things.

But yes, there are men everywhere, in every country, who think it's the woman's fault when she gets raped e.g. that Italian priest recently.

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Appalling. How does this kind of thing happen in this day and age!? That poor woman. I agree that it is doubtful that she died peacefully.

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laughing at people bullshitting about india having a long way to go......what about the mass rapes in london on english women? women are not safe in many countries......

just because the entire india roared on this, it doesn't mean rapes are happening only in india......
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Absolutely horrible.

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it doesn't mean rapes are happening only in india......
can you show me where I said that?

I'm a women. I've never needed a driver, I can take public transport alone, even at night. That's the difference. Of course rapes happen everywhere, but it does seem like the general attitude towards women is different in Delhi. And yes, there are lot a countries where it's equally bad. But you're not going to change the situation if you respond to everything with "yes, but it happens in other countries too". If you want change, you have to admit that something is horribly wrong in the first place.

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This is another ignorance. On the contrary, women are safe in India on *some* parameters. What many people (in India and western folks as well) don't know is many developed countries are not that shining either. Example, let's take the US:

Sexual Violence, Stalking, and Intimate Partner Violence Widespread in the US. Key findings:

=> Nearly 1 in 5 women has been raped at some time in her life.
=> One in 4 women has been a victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in her lifetime.
This is not helpful.
Pointing finger at the USA does not address the endemic issue of rape in India.
I can undersdand your pride and feel compelled to defend India because you think it is being unfairly ttreated amid this incident, but this pride is misplaced.

An objective observer can see why there is an outcry on this particular incident:
The public has had enough of violence against women and no serious action is taken against the perpetrators. So they are expressing their frustration and anger against the authorities.

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Judging by that article Ashi posted in this thread (women's perspective), there is a big difference and India has a longer way to go than other countries. I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in constant fear for your safety, when doing day to day things.

But yes, there are men everywhere, in every country, who think it's the woman's fault when she gets raped e.g. that Italian priest recently.
That article was about a woman's perspective from Delhi. I'm lived my whole life in Mumbai and can confidently say I can travel late nights here and use public transport.
I can't comment on other cities because I've not lived anywhere else for an extended period of time.

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They say there needs to be non-bailable arrest for rape accused. Many of our MP's and MLA's would be behind bars right now if that was the case.

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can you show me where I said that?

I'm a women. I've never needed a driver, I can take public transport alone, even at night. That's the difference. Of course rapes happen everywhere, but it does seem like the general attitude towards women is different in Delhi. And yes, there are lot a countries where it's equally bad. But you're not going to change the situation if you respond to everything with "yes, but it happens in other countries too". If you want change, you have to admit that something is horribly wrong in the first place.
why should a woman in india need to go out at night alone unless in exceptional circumstances? no indian family encourages it as far as i know......that is the cultural difference i was talking about......

and delhi =/= india.....i did say earlier that something's wrong with delhi and also reasoned why......

what i don't like is people pointing at a nation with 1.2 billion people without knowing much about it......you guys maybe having public transport in every city at night because your population count maybe negligible compared to us and your resources/person might be plentiful.......
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