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I not only rigorously study, but have also contributed to the production of knowledge about what race and racism are, from both biological and cultural perspectives.



As I said in my first post in this thread, there are multiple racisms. When I speak of racism (which I initially referred to as "white racism," I am speaking specifically of a Euro-American context.
I bet there were a lot of interchange of ideas when you were studying did you use to roll your eyes at your peers opinions too!?

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What the hell is your problem? Grow up.
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Well, at least this looked like it would become a civil discussion. But after few pages, the only question that remains is: "What did monkeys do to get compared to human kind?" (regardless of skin color) They're actually cute and harmless.

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How does it do that? I'm skeptical. Convince me.
Because the idea that "everyone can be a racist" makes all forms of racial prejudices equivalent, and intentionally obscures the reality that white racism is backed by prodigious political, economic, cultural, and institutional power, and has created one of the most devastating systems of material and symbolic subjugation, degradation, and oppression that has ever been seen in the history of humanity.


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I bet there were a lot of interchange of ideas when you were studying did you use to roll your eyes at your peers opinions too!?
No, I usually do the academic equivalent of reading someone to within an inch of their life: write a scathing rebuttal.


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Because the idea that "everyone can be a racist" makes all forms of racial prejudices equivalent, and intentionally obscures the reality that white racism is backed by prodigious political, economic, cultural, and institutional power, and has created one of the most devastating systems of material and symbolic subjugation, degradation, and oppression that has ever been seen in the history of humanity.
Personally, I am inclined to believe that "everyone can be a racist" but I don't believe that all forms of racial prejudices are equivalent.
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Because the idea that "everyone can be a racist" makes all forms of racial prejudices equivalent, and intentionally obscures the reality that white racism is backed by prodigious political, economic, cultural, and institutional power, and has created one of the most devastating systems of material and symbolic subjugation, degradation, and oppression that has ever been seen in the history of humanity.
well academics should elevate the special vileness of white racism instead of making minority racism less than what it is..
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Personally, I am inclined to believe that "everyone can be a racist" but I don't believe that all forms of racial prejudices are equivalent.
That's because you have an incomplete understanding of what racism is, how racism began, what racism's ideological projects are, and how racism works.


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No, I usually do the academic equivalent of reading someone to within an inch of their life: write a scathing rebuttal.
Well that attitude makes you look as an arrogant smartass and nobody likes an arrogant smartass.

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That's because you have an incomplete understanding of what racism is, how racism began, what racism's ideological projects are, and how racism works.
I thought you were claiming that the "everyone can be racist" idea of racism makes people think that all forms of racism are equivalent. I was pointing out that I have that view but I don't believe that all forms of racism are equivalent.

How exactly does it make all forms of racism equivalent?
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Well that attitude makes you look as an arrogant smartass and nobody likes an arrogant smartass.
Thanks for the advice.



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Thanks for the advice.

Lol it wasn't an advice.

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Personally, I am inclined to believe that "everyone can be a racist" but I don't believe that all forms of racial prejudices are equivalent.
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I thought you were claiming that the "everyone can be racist" idea of racism makes people think that all forms of racism are equivalent. I was pointing out that I have that view but I don't believe that all forms of racism are equivalent.

How exactly does it make all forms of racism equivalent?
Because the idea that 'everyone can be racist' was first propagated by groups and individuals with massive political and economic influence, whose goal was to reshape the public discourse concerning racism in the United States in an Affirmative Action era, in order to divert attention away from the very specific material and social consequences of white racism and preserve white privilege and supremacy.

And besides, even if you feel that way, you are black. Your personal views are irrelevant to the ideological projects of white racism.


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