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Woman singing in French was told to 'speak English or die' and threatened with stabbing, YouTube footage shows


Police in the Australian city of Melbourne are investigating the racist abuse of a French-speaking woman travelling on a bus in which she was told by a man to "speak English or die". The verbal abuse, captured on video by another passenger, shows a second man threatening to cut the woman with a knife.

"I'll fucking boxcutter you right now, you bitch, if you talk to my missus like that," said the male passenger, who was pushing a baby buggy, during the footage, which sparked national discussion on the level of racism in Australia. To varying degrees all Australian states and territories have laws against racial vilification.
The incident began after the woman started singing a French song, according to another passenger on the bus, Mike Nayna. Nayna – whose YouTube video drew attention to the ugly incident – said another female passenger on the bus started to chant "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie" in reply. Nayna, a comedian who turned the footage into an extended commentary on racism in Australia, said the French woman continued to sing, prompting a tirade of abuse from another male passenger.

"Speak English or die, motherfucker," the abuser says in the video. He then appears to threaten to "cut the bitch's tits off".

Melbourne, Australia's second-largest city, has large migrant communities and the spread of the video is a setback for the image it cultivates of being Australia's most culturally sophisticated metropolitan centre.
Media outlets described the incident as "shocking" and an ugly racist attack. One columnist described the perpetrators of the abuse as idiots who were being "caught on camera to their shame, and to our international embarrassment".

Listeners to one of Melbourne's talk back radio stations, 3AW, described the verbal attack as "disgusting" and "embarrassing". One said: "To the poor woman who had to endure such abuse, I hope you don't think all Australians act like this because we don't. The guy needs to be taught a lesson."

A spokeswoman from the French embassy in Australia, Lydie Bertrand, said the embassy has not been contacted by the woman who was the target of the abuse. "We disapprove of such attitudes towards these young French girls. The incident is regrettable but isolated," she said.
Nayna told Melbourne's Herald Sun newspaper: "It was just weird mob mentality. They [the abusers] were feeding off each other and breaking off into rant and encouraging each other over some racist stuff. It was like a bonding session."

Nayna said another of the passengers offered the abuser a beer and the use of his fishing knife. "Then he went off in a rant about filleting people and saying 'They're just scared ****s at the back of the bus'."

One of the men who had shouted abuse at the French woman got off the bus with his wife and child and taunted the victim to get off as well.

"Yeah, come on ****, get off. Fucking ding, look at ya. You've been told about four times, get off," he said. Moments after he stepped off the bus he apparently smashed one of the bus windows, shocking passengers who called out for the driver to shut the doors and drive off.

The other abuser told the French woman that everyone on the bus wanted to kill her and that she would have to "get off eventually, bitch".

Victorian police say they are investigating the incident, which took place on 11 November at about 10.30pm, and have called for witnesses to come forward.
The case has fuelled debate about racist attitudes in Australia. In 2010 India issued a travel warning to its citizens intending to come to Australia after the fatal stabbing in Melbourne of a 21-year-old Indian student. Other Indian students held protests, claiming attacks on them were motivated by racism and were not being addressed by the Australian government. Indian students are the second largest group of international students studying at a tertiary level in Australia. Their enrolments dropped by 30% in 2011 and by another 26% in 2012.
In 2005 several days of racially motivated mob riots were whipped up in the Sydney beachside suburb of Cronulla and neighbouring communities by reports of an attack on volunteer lifesavers by Middle Eastern men.
In May a British woman was sentenced to 21 weeks in jail for racially abusing passengers on the tube in London. Jacqueline Woodhouse, 42, from Romford in Essex, launched her abusive verbal attack on several passengers on the Central Line. A seven-minute video of the tirade has been watched by more than 200,000 people on YouTube. Among her remarks, Woodhouse asked passengers around her: "Where do you come from? All over the world, fucking jokers. Fucking country's a fucking joke.
"I would like to know if any of you are illegal? I am sure 30% of you are. Fucking jokers taking the fucking piss."
The judge said Woodhouse would spend half of her sentence behind bars and was banned for five years from using the London underground and Docklands Light Railway network while drunk.
Bogans. How embarrassing. I'm so glad I never encountered such attitudes in France.

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Dont use the public transport at that hour
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Not shocked, not even a little.


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and that article is a pile of crap
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Speak English or die? lol, that moron can barely speak his native language, so his only brain cell would suffer a horrible death if he'd try to learn at least one sentece in French or any other language. Including English without all those beeps.
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Why? I doubt that this is an every day event in Australia. There are morons in every country.
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Speak English or die? lol, that moron can barely speak his native language, so his only brain cell would suffer a horrible death if he'd try to learn at least one sentece in French or any other language. Including English without all those beeps.

Why? I doubt that this is an every day event in Australia. There are morons in every country.
I've worked in retail a lot over the past few years, and there is a lot of stuff like this. Not to the point of death threats, but I've had customers who've not only mocked people I've worked with due to their race/religion, but once someone threw a chair at one of the people I worked with because they were "ruining Australia".

There's a radio station called 6PR, and it is pretty much just a collection of people with closed minds spreading hate to everyone they can. It sickens me.


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These attitudes are everywhere.
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Why? I doubt that this is an every day event in Australia. There are morons in every country.
Thank you!

Idiots like this exist everywhere. I use public transport all the time to go to University, and I've never encountered any problems or seen racism. For the large part Australians are extremely accepting of other cultures. Unfortunately there's always one bad egg in the basket.

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Bogans. How embarrassing. I'm so glad I never encountered such attitudes in France.
^ Source of the article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...rant-australia (by Alison Rourke)


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There was a 'black' person with pretty 'white' women (it seems) singing in French in Melbourne, Australia. For a number of people in the bus, not a good combination.


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Source:http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...-on-smartphone (21 Nov 2012, 7:53 pm, Andy Park, SBS)

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A torrent of racial abuse aimed at a party of singing French backpackers aboard a Melbourne bus has been uploaded to YouTube in an attempt to shame those responsible, writes Andy Park.

A torrent of racial abuse aimed at a party of singing French backpackers aboard a Melbourne bus has been uploaded to YouTube in an attempt to shame those responsible.

The episode was filmed by Mike Nayna, who was riding the bus from Edithvale in Melbourne's south-east on November 11.

The bus was full of tired beachgoers, some of whom Mr Nayna said were intoxicated and frustrated at delays to the service, which was replacing trains, when tempers flared about 10.30pm.

"A group of French backpackers broke out into song in French at the back of the bus, but some people at the front sung 'Aussie, Aussie Aussie' back," Mr Nayna told SBS News.

He said the confrontation escalated with three passengers, including one man who can be seen in the video, calling for the "black people" to be thrown off the bus.

"I'm brown, so he clocked me and the others on the bus and he started going on a rant about he hated black people," Mr Nayna said.

"The main problem was that he was being egged on."

Mr Nayna says other passengers offered the man beer and cigarettes.

"Everyone on the bus wants to kill you," he appears to say to the French woman.

The French couple, who can also be seen in the video, did not retaliate, Mr Nayna said.

"They were really scared, really scared."

The incident ended in terrifying fashion when a rear window on the bus was smashed, causing the French couple to flee.

Mr Nayna, a stand-up comedian, said he produced and uploaded the video in a humorous style to intentionally to shame the three main offenders.

"Shame is a good word, because it was shameful behaviour. I packaged it in a way that would make it easy to share it," he said.

"I hope that these guys will be shamed into not voicing those opinions anymore. I just want them to be really embarrassed."

Dr Andre Oboler, CEO of the Online Hate Prevention Institute, told SBS the use of videos to expose racist behaviour and other forms of online hate can be a powerful public education tool.

"Social media does however need to be used with caution as such videos can be come a rallying cry for further racism if the context isn't clear.

"This poster has taken the effort to provide background, and that is very welcome, but ideally such commentary should be embedded in the video itself to prevent their removal and the misappropriation of the content for the purpose of hate promotion."

Mr Nayna said he would happily provide information to police or a court about the incident but said he felt exposing the behaviour would be more effective than punitive measures.

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Speak English or die? lol, that moron can barely speak his native language, so his only brain cell would suffer a horrible death if he'd try to learn at least one sentece in French or any other language. Including English without all those beeps.

Why? I doubt that this is an every day event in Australia
. There are morons in every country.
You would be very surpised. I live in the Central Coast near Sydney and legit there are a rediculous amount of bogans. Racial slurs are extremely common I've seen it happen many many times. I think it's more to do with where you live, some areas just harbour bogans and racists. I would be surprised if she wasnt travelling to a dodgy town in Melbourne.

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These attitudes are everywhere.
+1. Not surprising. Even in Malaysia, you'll hear cases e.g. a Muslim people asking the pigs (i.e. Chinese people) to go back to China once in a while and these kind of statement would be from an educator to their student.
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+1. Not surprising. Even in Malaysia, you'll hear cases e.g. a Muslim people asking the pigs (i.e. Chinese people) to go back to China once in a while and these kind of statement would be from an educator to their student.

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You would be very surpised. I live in the Central Coast near Sydney and legit there are a rediculous amount of bogans. Racial slurs are extremely common I've seen it happen many many times. I think it's more to do with where you live, some areas just harbour bogans and racists. I would be surprised if she wasnt travelling to a dodgy town in Melbourne.
Oh no! but gurl LBR, basically everywhere that isn't one of the large metropolitan cities like Sydney, Melbourne etc is flooded with awful bogans.

No one can doubt that we do have racists here in Australia, as does every country. These kind of "views" get more common as you travel further out from the big cities to more rural areas where majority of the population is white and of working class (am I allowed to say that now these days? ).

My father for instance comes from a country town here in Australia, and he along with the majority of his family are full of hate and discrimination. He will never stop putting down any other race/religion/whatever whenever he gets the chance. Not that he would go out and do it as publicly as these people on a bus, but it is still there behind closed doors. Still, I find it very frustrating to be surrounded by people like this.

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