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Once again, a man has a say: he can choose to wear a condom, not have sex or have a visectomy (if he really does not want children). And I read recently that a pill was being made for men (contraceptive). Thank goodness.

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And women don't have a say to take the pill or the implant which unlike the pill doesn't require you to take it daily, its just inside you non-stop.

I actually agree with abortions in rape cases and have even said I reckon they should probably be legalised for the first trimester on demand however to make every woman who has an abortion into some kind of helpless victim is patronising and false.

Of course your post has just summed up the feminist argument that somehow men who don't manage contraception are looked at negatively but women who don't are viewed as unfortunate victims.

Also by feminist I'm obviously not referring to lipstick feminism just Germaine Greer and that archaic type
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And women don't have a say to take the pill or the implant which unlike the pill doesn't require you to take it daily, its just inside you non-stop.

I actually agree with abortions in rape cases and have even said I reckon they should probably be legalised for the first trimester on demand however to make every woman who has an abortion into some kind of helpless victim is patronising and false.

Of course your post has just summed up the feminist argument that somehow men who don't manage contraception are looked at negatively but women who don't are viewed as unfortunate victims.

Also by feminist I'm obviously not referring to lipstick feminism just Germaine Greer and that archaic type
Where are you getting this stuff from? Give me an example of this.

Last time I checked it's the women who get pregnant who have to explain themselves. ALL THE TIME. Who's making every woman who has an abortion into some kind of helpless victim? You have a chip on your shoulder here.

And I don't understand the first sentence of your post. Please rephrase it. You don't like the idea of men soon being able to use contraception (the pill)??

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No men's pills are fine but its also a woman's responsibility contraception, like to say men can choose to wear a condom a woman can also choose to take the pill/implant.
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Ok. So please address the part I bolded in your last post?

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Looks like it was another really good turnout at the protest tonight. I'm glad the public discourse is continuing though some people are still trying to muddy the waters. There have been demonstrations of some sort in different towns and cities all around the country for 8 days straight now, I believe.

There have also been demonstrations of varying sizes outside Irish embassies in London, NYC, Berlin, Vienna, Stockholm, Edinburgh and other major cities.

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On the other hand, the union or whatever of Irish bishops has come out and said we should 'cherish' our abortion laws and said there should be no abortion any under circumstance... Christ they make me sick. The church is unpopular enough in this country at the moment, their stupidity in coming out with that is astounding.

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On the other hand, the union or whatever of Irish bishops has come out and said we should 'cherish' our abortion laws and said there should be no abortion any under circumstance... Christ they make me sick. The church is unpopular enough in this country at the moment, their stupidity in coming out with that is astounding.
I dont understand why this makes people sick
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I dont understand why this makes people sick
I dont understand why some people are so heartless. But if you think a woman with a dying foetus cant get an abortion to save her life, and that she should die too, hey, I suppose thats just your twisted opinion.

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I dont understand why some people are so heartless. But if you think a woman with a dying foetus cant get an abortion to save her life, and that she should die too, hey, I suppose thats just your twisted opinion.
I never said that but I do respect people who are still true to their beliefs despite all the hate they get. But yes if the baby is dying and the woman's life is in risk she should be able to get an abortion. However, I don't think that that is really an abortion.
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But that is an abortion. It is an abortion, but it's a form of abortion people find acceptable so they don't consider it a "real" abortion or connect it to "irresponsible" abortions. Which in itself is nothing more than moral police gone mad. Morality and science very often do not mix.

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I never said that but I do respect people who are still true to their beliefs despite all the hate they get. But yes if the baby is dying and the woman's life is in risk she should be able to get an abortion. However, I don't think that that is really an abortion.
That would seem kinda OK if the poor woman who died actually had the same belief as the ones who didn't let her have the abortion

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