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View Poll Results: Should Gay Marriage be legal?
Yes (please explain your thoughts below) 187 87.38%
No, on religious grounds 15 7.01%
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post #16 of 393 (permalink) Old Jul 26th, 2012, 02:53 AM
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Re: Do you support Gay Marriage?

No poll choices above apply for me, as IC the very word "marriage" as a term that should be separate from government recognizing unions between "consenting adults not named Kardashian".

Seriously, I think the civil authorities should solely do that part, and (optionally) the persons involved can have whatever religious authority "they want, and is willing" do a religious ceremony. FWIW, I have no objection to officially recognized polygamous relationships either.

However, I think clearly exploitative unions (like Anna Nicole Smith with that year-from-dying 90 plus y.o. man) are another matter. As are many possible ones between close relatives, though they need not be sexual relationships to provide for survivor benefits, etc.
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Yes, because I'm gay and I want to marry my boyfriend one day



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Yes. Gay/bisexual people should have the same rights as straight people. There's no good arguments against gay marriage anyway.
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No poll choices above apply for me, as IC the very word "marriage" as a term that should be separate from government recognizing unions between "consenting adults not named Kardashian".

Seriously, I think the civil authorities should solely do that part, and (optionally) the persons involved can have whatever religious authority "they want, and is willing" do a religious ceremony. FWIW, I have no objection to officially recognized polygamous relationships either.

However, I think clearly exploitative unions (like Anna Nicole Smith with that year-from-dying 90 plus y.o. man) are another matter. As are many possible ones between close relatives, though they need not be sexual relationships to provide for survivor benefits, etc.
I think no (explain your thoughts below) applies to you

What you've said there is a very good example of why gay marriages being illegal... is such a joke ANS and Kim Kardashian had what in my opinion are fake marriages. I define fake marriages as being a marriage which is all about something other than love, for example wealth and power.

Very few gay people have civil unions here in New Zealand, but for the ones who do or the ones holding out for gay marriage to be legal - there is nothing about wealth or power. They only want to marry, because they love what in their opinion is their 'better half' or 'what makes them feel like a whole'. For the state to say that they are not allowed to marry is not just stupid, it's plain wrong.

Straight people are unaffected by gay marriage, period.

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Yes. I am rather fond of my brother-in-law and the uncle of my kids.

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Obviously. Stopping other people from getting married because of your personal beliefs is like stopping other people from eating carrots because you personally don't like them. As enticing as a world without that disgusting vegetable sounds, I don't think that would be fair.

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Re: Do you support Gay Marriage?

Kim Kardashian can marry for two and a half months (presumably for money, ratings etc.) and two men/women who love each other cannot? Fuck off!

The answer is yes . I doubt I'll get married but that's beside the point.
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Of course. Seeing as I'm gay, I'd be a hypocrite if I thought otherwise.

Being gay not a choice anyone makes, it's like we don't choose who are parents are, what gender we are, what race we are, etc. People need to get with the times.

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I definitely do and even if I didn't want to get married I'd still like to have the choice

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i voted no. to me "marriage" means a union between a man and a woman. A union between two adults who (at least in principle) can have children together.

but i do support civil unions with the same rights as married couples (except adoption).
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i voted no. to me "marriage" means a union between a man and a woman. A union between two adults who (at least in principle) can have children together.

but i do support civil unions with the same rights as married couples (except adoption).
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Re: Do you support Gay Marriage?

Sure, why not? Whoever people want to marry has zero impact on my own life, so why should I (or anyone) object? Live and let live.

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Re: Do you support Gay Marriage?

i would never "support" any kind of marriage, because it's something i don't believe in, something that has become so trivial and disposable. but of course everyone should get married if they want to, they should just think about it very long and very hard. i have a family and have been together with the same woman for over 10 years. marriage has never even been a topic.

homosexual couples in switzerland have had the right to get married for 5 years now. i just read an article how - after an inital boom - the numbers for married homosexual couples are dropping again. one of the reasons is probably that you can adopt children as an non-married person, but not as a homosexual couple.


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