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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 28th, 2012, 02:15 AM Thread Starter
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Europe getting old?

It's shocking to see the median age in Europe.



Overpopulation is pretty bad for sure but an old population is not a good thing for the future either.
Maybe I'm wrong and it's not that bad.
I hope European posters here can give more information about the situation.

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Developed countries = too old
Undeveloped countries = too young
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Demographics shift too. I know in the United States, white people are generally having less children, with minorities having more.

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^ So we are developed ?
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^ So we are developed ?
Compared to Africa, India, big part of Asia and South America, yes
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Germany is for sure among the worst
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It's an old map. Kosovo Montenegro is a separate country now. South Sudan too.

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It's shocking to see the median age in Europe.



Overpopulation is pretty bad for sure but an old population is not a good thing for the future either.
Maybe I'm wrong and it's not that bad.
I hope European posters here can give more information about the situation.

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I will have no problems getting a job, when i graduate in about 2 years.
So many teachers are going to retire the upcoming years

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I can only speak for Eastern Europe and it seems that the average age in rural areas is something like 50, at least it feels like that.

In the city, the average age is lower, but it's pretty obvious that the population is regressing. The well educated young people emigrate and found their families abroad, while mostly older people or poorer minorities stay back. It's also those minorities were most children are born in.
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That's because women in Europe (and North America) are educated, want a career and they have control over their bodies. In some parts of the world a woman is still basically a slave, she gets married at 14 or something and has 10 kids even though they can't provide for them. And they never heard of contraception either.
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Overpopulation is pretty bad for sure but an old population is not a good thing for the future either.
Maybe I'm wrong and it's not that bad.

A lower birth-rate will shift the median age up but it doesn't mean anything bad for the future. It simply means that the population will decrease or stay steady. Added to that is the fact that nowadays people (in most "developed" countries) stay healthier and fitter for much longer than they did even a few decades ago.

I had to go look-up some stuff but on average the median age in Europe is 7+ years older than the USA. (43+ to 36+) Not significant really. I'd say that a median age of 55+ would start to get dicey.



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It's certainly better than 14-20 I had no idea...

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Obviously the economy of the country plays a big rule.
Most of Africa is in the 14-20 range and most people there have a very low income.

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It's an old map. Kosovo Montenegro is a separate country now. South Sudan too.
It's from 2009, not that old.

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That's because women in Europe (and North America) are educated, want a career and they have control over their bodies. In some parts of the world a woman is still basically a slave, she gets married at 14 or something and has 10 kids even though they can't provide for them. And they never heard of contraception either.
this, and not the economy, is the main reason some societies have lower median age. it's basically the issue of women's rights which results in lower fertility rates (1-3 children per woman on average). there is some connection with the economy since in developed industrial societies women tend to have the same rights as men but there are rich countries where this is not the case, like oil-rich countries in the middle east. economy also plays a role in the sense that there is a longer life expectancy in a rich country (which actually pushes the median age of oil-rich middle eastern countries up, fertility rates are still high there). in africa women still don't have the same rights as in europe and people die young, so the median age is very low.
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