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View Poll Results: What do you think may account for your sexuality?
i was born with my sexuality, it is fixed and really cannot believe it will change 21 48.84%
i wasn't born to be anything, but social/environment made me str8/gay/bi 4 9.30%
i was born gay/bi/str8 but have chosen to follow a different path 0 0%
my sexuality changes hourly, and cannot be described adequately by any straightforward category 5 11.63%
it's a combination of choice/environment/genetics 13 30.23%
Never thought about it / Something else (please state) 0 0%
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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 22nd, 2002, 05:05 PM Thread Starter
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Your sexuality: genetics or environment

The positions on this matter are fairly well established but there's not much consensus as to which applies in most cases. Here are the main positions:

people are born to be str8 but become gay because of their social environment/upbringing

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nobody is born with a predetemined sexuality. instead, people choose to follow various sexual pathways and interchange between categories as a choice.

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genetics determines sexuality - people are born gay and it's natural, if a flaw in nature

what is your view, based on your own sexuality?

my position is this: i feel like I was asexual until about 10, then straight into being gay. i don't believe it was social factors. i believe I am meant to be gay becuase of genes. i do not choose this. but i am not ashamed or regretful. i cannot become str8.

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I was born straight and cant really see that changing because of my environment (don't want it to either!). lol@the poster whose sexuality changes hourly!


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Top one, i was born fancying females and the thought of fancying a man actually repulses me, so i cannot see it changing
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Ok - well im with the choice, environment and genetics route. Im sure genetically im born a lesbian, but i have certainly stifled that and lived a straight life for many years because of the environment and peopel around me. Now that my environment is now more secure and well now that im fed up of living a lie i am living as a very happy lesbian.

So i guess what im saying is - genetics makes you what you are, but the environment plays a part because of how society can stifle you into fitting into what is stupidly considered normal. Thank god i saw the light - at least im happy if others arent

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it's a combination of genetics,choice and environment

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I chose the 'choice, environment and genetics' option because it's closest to what I believe. However, I don't think there is a "choice" when it comes to sexuality. Sure, one can choose how (and with whom) to express his/her sexuality or sexual feelings, but I believe sexuality is determined by a combination of biology and environment, with one having little if any "choice" in the matter.
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yes - i agree that all three play a part in shaping our actual sexual behaviour, but that's not the question. julie - you say you played straight for a while. but did you have straight feelings? it seems like you made a constrained choice to be straight.

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I was born with my sexuality. It came with the package (with the no return guarantee policy stamped on it ). I don't think I would change even if I was surrounded/had grown up in a different environment. Being around people with a different sexuality makes you understand and appreciate the differences, but not change your sexuality.

There is always a "choice" of course, I guess you could learn to be happy or even fall in love living a sexuality that is not what you were born into, since in the end most of us end up with one person, not with a whole gender (pity, huh Barrie? ).


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I was born with my sexuality. It came with the package (with the no return guarantee policy stamped on it ). I don't think I would change even if I was surrounded/had grown up in a different environment. Being around people with a different sexuality makes you understand and appreciate the differences, but not change your sexuality.

There is always a "choice" of course, I guess you could learn to be happy or even fall in love living a sexuality that is not what you were born into, since in the end most of us end up with one person, not with a whole gender (pity, huh Barrie? ).
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Uh, sexuality isn't the same thing as sexual orientation.

No one seems to be mentioning it, but there are some scientific studies on this. Of course, they aren't conclusive yet, but they all seem to be saying that sexual orientation, like gender, is decided in the embryonic state. While the environment might later play some role, in most people it seems that a very strong genetic predisposition takes place during the embryonic state.

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Oh, a potentially more interesting question is why there are any gay or lesbian animals at all. Characteristics or traits are very unlikely to be perpetuated unless they have some beneficial aspect. (The classic example is that sickle cell anemia provides greater protection against malaria in some areas.) Since being gay or lesbian lowers the likelihood of reproduction, the question is: what is the beneficial aspect --- in terms of genetic survival --- that has caused it to persist?

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I think it will be hard to ever get a definitive answer on this because so many people who "research" it have very strong opinions and an agenda to prove. This is not an easily researched question either...

But of course, why does it matter? This reminds me of the movie "Trading Places" where Randolph and Mortimer bet each other a dollar over the debate of success being a product of environment or genetics. People are millions of different things, I think it will be impossible to determine reasons behind all of them.

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