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Israel: 60+ Short Years Later, "Jewish Kristallnacht" In Tel-Aviv Against... Africans

If you thought this will never happen again, think again.

Ironically, some right wing groups in the US are cheering on Israelis, others are lamenting "Hitler did not finish the job".

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Israeli anti-immigrant riots: Ignored by the organized Jewish community and the mainstream Western media





Haaretz caption: Israelis protest against African migrant workers in South Tel Aviv




Peter Beinart has become a thorn in the side of the organized Jewish community, this time pointing out that the same Jewish organizations (the ADL, the American Jewish Committee, AIPAC, and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations) that are quick to condemn anti-immigrant sentiment in Europe and the US have not mentioned the recent riots in Tel Aviv in which Jews attacked African immigrants. This video captures some of the intense passions aroused in this situation.




This is yet another example of moral particularism by the Jewish community. While forever taking advantage of the Western tendencies to moral universalism, Jewish organizations simply pursue what’s best for Jews. There’s a strong conceptual link between this behavior and the behavior noted in Andrew Joyce’s excellent series on the 19th-century Russian “pogroms” where Jewish organizations actively engaged in deception on the form and scale of anti-Jewish behavior.


At 0:45, a man old enough know better, is using the language Germans used against Jews in the 1930's and 1940's.
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Even Knesset members took part in the racist demonstration

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By Ruth Michaelson in Ramallah


The Israeli activist group Peace Now is demanding the government launch an investigation after three Members of the Knesset, MK, attended an anti-immigrant demonstration in Tel Aviv.


The demonstration, which attracted several hundred people, took place late on Wednesday night and targeted the immigrant population of southern Tel Aviv, many of whom are from Eritrea and Sudan.




12 arrests were made after two demonstrators attacked a bystander and cars seen to be carrying African immigrants had their windscreens smashed.
Eyewitnesses reported hearing chants of “blacks out”, looting and demonstrators spitting at immigrants, as well as attacking those who attempted to prevent further violence.


The MKs Danny Dannon, Yariv Levin and Miri Regev all attended the demonstration. During an interview with an Israeli news site on Thursday morning, Regev said that she does not condone violence. She was later criticised for describing immigrants as a “cancer” on Israeli society.


There are an estimated 60,000 asylum seekers in Israel, many of whom have fled violent conflict in places such as Sudan. The granting of official refugee status remains a contentious issue for the Israeli state.


source: http://www.english.rfi.fr/middle-eas...g-racist-march


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I'm scheduled to go to Israel in a couple of weeks, and a couple of friends who have gone to Israel have already warned me of how incredibly aggressive and brash some Israelis can be. I've already been a victim of Israeli racism in Spain (one of the most ignorant countries I've ever been to) so, to be honest, I'm not even remotely shocked to read this.
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I'm scheduled to go to Israel in a couple of weeks, and a couple of friends who have gone to Israel have already warned me of how incredibly aggressive and brash some Israelis can be. I've already been a victim of Israeli racism in Spain (one of the most ignorant countries I've ever been to) so, to be honest, I'm not even remotely shocked to read this.
About 5 years or so back, I had heard of discrimination against Ethiopian Jews by government institutions as well as private citizens.
The disturbing aspect is a number of offenders come from former Soviet Union countries, where Jews were systematically discriminated against for years.

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About years or so back, I had heard of discrimination against Ethiopian Jews by government institutions as well as private citizens.
The disturbing aspect is a number of offenders come from former Soviet Union countries, where Jews were systematically discriminated against for years.
Interesting that there is a "Jewish" state in Russia ... Jewish Autonomous Oblast.




The Chinese province that share the border there also has some Jewish history.

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Interesting that there is a "Jewish" state in Russia ... Jewish Autonomous Oblast.




The Chinese province that share the border there also has some Jewish history.


Thanks you for posting the link about Jewish Autonomous Oblast.

I was not aware of this piece fo history.

Now, only about 2% of the population is Jewish.

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Just back from Israel..
I think that it is probably the most wonderful country I've ever visited, and the nicest people. Makes my sympathy to the country even stronger than it has ever been. Can't wait to go back and see more of it.

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Just back from Israel..
I think that it is probably the most wonderful country I've ever visited, and the nicest people. Makes my sympathy to the country even stronger than it has ever been. Can't wait to go back and see more of it.
This development makes your sympathy stronger?

I am glad your sympathy for Jews has grown now they that they left Russia and are now doing to others what the Russians did to them. You taught them well

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This development makes your sympathy stronger?

I am glad your sympathy for Jews has grown now they that they left Russia and are now doing to others what the Russians did to them. You taught them well
Have you been to Israel?
If not, whatever you say mean no more than a noise of a clueless insect .. If you did go to there, go ahead , share your experience.

As to Africans.. if the subject is the Sudanese illegal immigrants .. something that I briefly discussed with a guy in there .. I kind of agree .. they don't belong to there.. end of story. Israelis are in their full right to deport them back to Egypt .. or let them be.. Israel is a Jewish state, by definition, by design. Others are simply not welcome to reside there and should go elsewhere.

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About 5 years or so back, I had heard of discrimination against Ethiopian Jews by government institutions as well as private citizens.
The disturbing aspect is a number of offenders come from former Soviet Union countries, where Jews were systematically discriminated against for years.
A person who has experienced racism against them can still be racist towards others. I don't see why Jews should be exempt from this. Racism exists everywhere.

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Have you been to Israel?
If not, whatever you say mean no more than a noise of a clueless insect .. If you did go to there, go ahead , share your experience.
What has that got to do with anything? Even if you've been to Israel, unless if you met every single Israeli, your opinion shouldn't be any different? Most people who visit countries for a short while always have "nice times" because they visit places they want to visit and stay in hotels. A better question may be "Have you lived in Israel?" And even then it depends on where you live, your socioeconomic background etc..
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Have you been to Israel?
If not, whatever you say mean no more than a noise of a clueless insect .. If you did go to there, go ahead , share your experience.
What this has to do with anything?
If you had not been there, would it be right to dismiss your opinion?

Moreover, there are people who live there and do not agree with you.

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As to Africans.. if the subject is the Sudanese illegal immigrants .. something that I briefly discussed with a guy in there .. I kind of agree .. they don't belong to there.. end of story. Israelis are in their full right to deport them back to Egypt .. or let them be.. Israel is a Jewish state, by definition, by design. Others are simply not welcome to reside there and should go elsewhere.
This is consistent with your views on race, so I am not surprise

Russians Jews were not real Russians and did not belong there

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What this has to do with anything?
If you had not been there, would it be right to dismiss your opinion?
Absolutely. You can't judge people or a country if you have no real knowledge of it. You don't know what is it to be a nation at war, to live virtually at a gunpoint, surrounded by enemies, you have no clue. You are in no position to judge anyone there. Neither am I, by the way.

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Moreover, there are people who live there and do not agree with you.
Sure, it is a very democratic country. The only one in the whole f@cking region, by the way. Every nation has its own outlier of nuts.


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This is consistent with your views on race, so I am not surprise
This has nothing to do with race.

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Russians Jews were not real Russians and did not belong there
And what is this gibberish supposed to mean?

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A person who has experienced racism against them can still be racist towards others. I don't see why Jews should be exempt from this. Racism exists everywhere.
This is not about singling out Jews and, saying that everybody does it is not a good defense.

A people that convinced the entire world, and rightfully so, on the danger of racism and bigotry, has a minimum amount of responsibility not to perpetuate the same evil.

Right now, if you were to visit certain right wing sites in the USA, a funny thing is happening.

Some are saying had Hitler finished the job, this would not be happening.


Others, and this is the majority, are now saying Jews have duped the American public by promoting immigration of non-white to the USA to weaken this country, while in Israel the Jews are doing exactly the opposite; i.e. what we, white Americans wanted to do, but the Jews convinced our politicians not to. They are destroying our country from within.

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And what is this gibberish supposed to mean?
You said it, maybe you change your mind now.

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You said it, maybe you change your mind now.
Can you give a link?

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